lakerhater wrote:rpa wrote:Buck You wrote:24-28 was still in the playoff race in the east and was still on pace to be better than last season's record by a lot.
24-28 is still a bad team. Being in the playoff race with that kind of record tells us a whole lot more about the conference than about the team.
Second:
24-28 over a full season equates to 38 wins (37.8 actually). The Bucks won 34 games last year.
rpa wins with logic in this thread.
Those 4 extra wins in that scenario could easily be attributed to Bogut's return to health. The run they're on now coincides with Salmons' arrival to Milwaukee.
I usually stay out of these "my dad can beat up your dad" type of arguments, but this is textbook checkers "logic" vs. chess "logic". The checkers logic looks only at what's in front of him and makes his move, while the chess logic takes the information he is given adds it to all other information available and than bases his move off the conglomeration of all information.
Checkers assumes all things equal, so only a 4 win improvement is gospel - you win!
Chess realizes this 4 win improvement was done by a team that lost it's 4 "best" players (Redd-injury, Jefferson, Villanueva, and Sessions) - those players included the top four scorers on that team, 70% of the teams scoring (69.4 points out of 99.3), 44% of the assists (17.9 out of 40.7), 48% of the steals (3.55 out of 7.43). Obviously there are many other factors that need to be included (additions of Salmons, Defino, Stackhouse; Sac adds and losses; GS adds and losses; coaching changes, pace changes, ect.), but come on lets try to at least look through the glass instead of staring directly at it refusing to see what's on the other side.