Stoudemire +Howard = ???

[Sache]

It's one of the most ironic things I've ever seen...one great offensive player w/ no D and one great defensive player that is average at best. Which player in history had a similiar O like Amare and D like Dwight?

[Lakers05]

Prime Hakeem(well, he's actually even better than Amare offensively. Truly the GOAT.)

[chefy]

david robinson?

no way it's hakeem.

[shawngoat23]

David Robinson is the closest I can think of stylistically.

He's got a face-up game and can hit the mid-range jumper like Amare, which allows him to get to the free throw line repeatedly, where he converts quite well. Somewhat limited back-to-the-basket game like Amare (compared to other great bigs offensively). Excellent finisher. The difference is Robinson is more prolific and never had the benefit of an elite PG, but stylistically, they are comparable.

Robinson's super athletic like Howard. Better defender overall, especially in terms of racking up steals and blocks. He's not quite as good a rebounder though.

[kasino]

clearly the best player in the league
all-time depends what he does with himself

[number 11]

face up first step based scorer

roaming defensive shot blocker & rebounder

prob david robinson

[#1 pick]

Dwight Howard defense is pace for best ever. Amare offense is star level but no superstar. It's tough to say.

[Brian Chapman]

jesus you guys are nuts

are you all 20 yrs old and younger? dont remember 1995? D Robinson won mvp,and guess what,he was DESTROYED by hakeem .

Robinson was a shell of himself in 99 when he rode duncans coattails.

Hakeem has the ALL TIME record for blocks, and was his BEST in the late eighties before most of you were born.

D ROb getting r@ped by Hakeem http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hW4uXlRG ... 1&index=28

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uBrEsNS9 ... playnext=1

[bballmaniac27]

Dwight Howard defense is pace for best ever. Amare offense is star level but no superstar. It's tough to say.

lol still at it I see.

jesus you guys are nuts

are you all 20 yrs old and younger? dont remember 1995? D Robinson won mvp,and guess what,he was DESTROYED by hakeem .

Robinson was a shell of himself in 99 when he rode duncans coattails.

Hakeem has the ALL TIME record for blocks, and was his BEST in the late eighties before most of you were born.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hW4uXlRG ... 1&index=28

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uBrEsNS9 ... playnext=1

They're not saying Robinson was a better player. They just mean that stylistically a combination of Dwights D and Amare's O would most resemble Robinson's playing style.

[shawngoat23]

jesus you guys are nuts

are you all 20 yrs old and younger? dont remember 1995? D Robinson won mvp,and guess what,he was DESTROYED by hakeem .

Robinson was a shell of himself in 99 when he rode duncans coattails.

Hakeem has the ALL TIME record for blocks, and was his BEST in the late eighties before most of you were born.

D ROb getting r@ped by Hakeem http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hW4uXlRG ... 1&index=28

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uBrEsNS9 ... playnext=1

What the hell does this have to do with Amare and Dwight?

[Hilltop]

But there's a big difference.

Howard is actually an effective and efficient offensive player. He draws fouls, double/triple teams, he gets opposing teams into the penalty, opposing bigs into foul trouble, andhe opens up the floor for the shooters on his team. That entire Magic offense is hinged on Dwight's command of the paint. He's actually the most important offensive player on his team.

Amare OTOH, is a putrid rebounder for his size and athletic abilities, and he is a liability on defense.

Howard's O is far more valuable than Amare's D has ever been.

[BossHoggin]

Dwight Howard defense is pace for best ever. Amare offense is star level but no superstar. It's tough to say.

Too bad the chair that guarded Yi is better at offense than Howard.

[Recently]

But there's a big difference.

Howard is actually an effective and efficient offensive player. He draws fouls, double/triple teams, he gets opposing teams into the penalty, opposing bigs into foul trouble, andhe opens up the floor for the shooters on his team. That entire Magic offense is hinged on Dwight's command of the paint. He's actually the most important offensive player on his team.

Amare OTOH, is a putrid rebounder for his size and athletic abilities, and he is a liability on defense.

Howard's O is far more valuable than Amare's D has ever been.

He's essentially a decoy on offense unless he catches the ball in super deep post position (which his guards fail to do very often) If he catches the ball outside of 6 feet or so, single coverage is enough to stop him from scoring as his post moves are childish, and his face up game is nonexistent.

[penbeast0]

And yet he scored over 18ppg and let the league in FG% . . . as a decoy with no offensive game apparently.

[Hilltop]

But there's a big difference.

Howard is actually an effective and efficient offensive player. He draws fouls, double/triple teams, he gets opposing teams into the penalty, opposing bigs into foul trouble, andhe opens up the floor for the shooters on his team. That entire Magic offense is hinged on Dwight's command of the paint. He's actually the most important offensive player on his team.

Amare OTOH, is a putrid rebounder for his size and athletic abilities, and he is a liability on defense.

Howard's O is far more valuable than Amare's D has ever been.

He's essentially a decoy on offense unless he catches the ball in super deep post position (which his guards fail to do very often) If he catches the ball outside of 6 feet or so, single coverage is enough to stop him from scoring as his post moves are childish, and his face up game is nonexistent.

Howard actually has decent footwork, he's great in transition, he has the spin move, a running hook that is more or less reliable, a right hook, and a lefty hook that is only getting better. People need to stop pretending the guy has no post moves or that he can only dunk or finish on putbacks. Dwight is assisted on his buckets even less than guys like Bynum, Amare, Duncan, Lopez, Bogut, etc.

If Howard was that inept, and if he could so easily be covered 1-on-1 past 6-feet, then maybe he wouldn't draw as much attention as he does, be as efficient, or be capable of averaging over 20 PPG more than once in his young career.

[_BBIB_]

Dwight Howard defense is pace for best ever. Amare offense is star level but no superstar. It's tough to say.

Too bad the chair that guarded Yi is better at offense than Howard.

The chair that guarded Yi

Man I will be the first to admit I fell for all those Yi highlight reels

[sp6r=underrated]

jesus you guys are nuts

are you all 20 yrs old and younger? dont remember 1995? D Robinson won mvp,and guess what,he was DESTROYED by hakeem .

Robinson was a shell of himself in 99 when he rode duncans coattails.

Hakeem has the ALL TIME record for blocks, and was his BEST in the late eighties before most of you were born.

D ROb getting r@ped by Hakeem http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hW4uXlRG ... 1&index=28

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uBrEsNS9 ... playnext=1

People like you are the reason why I've come to hate Hakeem Olajuwon. As ShawnGoat said, what does your post have to do with anything.