Kobe/LBJ/Wade

[HEATKingEz]

I'm sure there's a bunch of threads comparing the three, but I don't think it's ever been so detailed like this before. See who's actually the best at what, and then add it up to see who's the best player. ONLY use Kobe Bryant, LeBron James & Dwyane Wade. Seeing that it's clear that they are the 3 best players in the league.

Put the names in order for each category.

ex: Inside Scoring: Dwyane Wade, LeBron James, Kobe Bryant

Offensive Game:
Inside Scoring:
Mid-Range:
Three Point:
Drawing The Foul:
Versatility:
Awareness:

Defensive Game:
Perimeter Defense:
Inside Defense:
Help Defense:
Stealing:
Blocking:
Rebounding:
Versatility:
Awareness:

Play Making:
Setting Up Teammates:
Handling:
Passing:

Clutch:
Clutch Shots:
Clutch Plays:
Clutch Defense:


Overall, ___________ is the best basketball player in the NBA.

[HEATKingEz]

Also, feel free to add more. I'm sure I missed some.

[ljp24]

I'm sure there's a bunch of threads comparing the three, but I don't think it's ever been so detailed like this before. See who's actually the best at what, and then add it up to see who's the best player. ONLY use Kobe Bryant, LeBron James & Dwyane Wade. Seeing that it's clear that they are the 3 best players in the league.

Put the names in order for each category.

ex: Inside Scoring: Dwyane Wade, LeBron James, Kobe Bryant

Offensive Game:
Inside Scoring: DW
Mid-Range: KB
Three Point: KB
Drawing The Foul: DW
Versatility: LBJ
Awareness: KB

Defensive Game:
Perimeter Defense: KB
Inside Defense: LBJ
Help Defense: LBJ
Stealing: DW
Blocking: DW
Rebounding: LBJ
Versatility:KB
Awareness: KB

Play Making:
Setting Up Teammates: LBJ
Handling: LBJ
Passing: LBJ

Clutch:
Clutch Shots: KB
Clutch Plays: KB
Clutch Defense: KB


Overall, Kobe is the best basketball player in the NBA.

[delonte]

Offensive Game:
Inside Scoring: LBJ
Mid-Range: KOBE
Three Point: LBJ
Drawing The Foul: LBJ
Versatility: LBJ
Awareness: KOBE

Defensive Game:
Perimeter Defense: WADE
Inside Defense: LBJ
Help Defense: LBJ
Stealing: WADE
Blocking: WADE
Rebounding: LBJ
Versatility: LBJ
Awareness: LBJ

Play Making: LBJ
Setting Up Teammates: LBJ
Handling: WADE
Passing: LBJ

Clutch: LBJ
Clutch Shots: KOBE
Clutch Plays: LBJ
Clutch Defense: WADE


Overall, LEBRON JAMES is the best basketball player in the NBA.

[doremi]

Offensive Game:
Inside Scoring: LBJ
Mid-Range: Kobe
Three Point: Kobe
Drawing The Foul: Wade/LBJ
Versatility: Kobe
Awareness: Kobe

Defensive Game:
Perimeter Defense: Kobe
Inside Defense: n/a
Help Defense: LBJ
Stealing: Wade
Blocking: LBJ
Rebounding: tied (all good rebounders for their perspective position)
Versatility: LBJ
Awareness: Kobe

Play Making:
Setting Up Teammates: Wade
Handling: Kobe
Passing: LBJ

Clutch:
Clutch Shots: Kobe
Clutch Plays: Kobe
Clutch Defense: Wade


Overall, _____Kobe______ is the best basketball player in the NBA.

This is too easy to adjust so your favorite player wins.

[wallflower]

This has been done a million times before, overall Lebrons James is probably the best.

[Quincy]

Interesting thread.

Offensive Game:
Inside Scoring(Layups, Dunks, etc.): Wade, Bron, Kobe
Post-Up Game: Kobe, Bron, Wade
Mid-Range: Kobe, Wade, Bron
Three Point: Kobe, Bron, Wade
Drawing The Foul: Wade, Kobe, Bron
Free-Throw Shooting: Kobe, Bron, Wade
Versatility: Kobe, Bron, Wade
Awareness: Kobe, Wade, Bron

Defensive Game:
Perimeter Defense: Kobe, Bron, Wade
Inside Defense: Bron, Wade, Kobe
Help Defense: Bron, Wade, Kobe
Stealing: Wade, Kobe, Bron
Blocking: Bron, Wade, Kobe
Rebounding: Bron, Kobe, Wade
Versatility: Bron, Kobe, Wade
Awareness: Kobe, Wade, Bron

Play Making:
Setting Up Teammates: Bron, Kobe, Wade
Handling: Kobe, Wade, Bron
Passing: Bron, Wade, Kobe

Clutch:
Clutch Shots: Kobe, Wade, Bron
Clutch Plays: Kobe, Wade, Bron
Clutch Defense: Kobe, Wade, Bron


Overall, Kobe is the best basketball player in the NBA.

Would like to see this format used more often. With different players of course.

[toodles23]

How you can possibly NOT have Lebron as #1 on inside scoring is beyond me.

[initiald]

Good thread. I actually have to think very deeply to answer this. And I can predict Kobe with the most skill in all of these area..



Offensive Game:
Inside Scoring: Lebron, Wade, Kobe
Mid-Range: Kobe, Wade, Lebron
Three Point: Kobe, Lebron, Wade
Drawing The Foul: Wade, Lebron, Kobe
Versatility: Lebron, Kobe, Wade
Awareness: Kobe, Lebron, Wade

Defensive Game:
Perimeter Defense: Kobe, Wade, Lebron
Inside Defense: Lebron, Wade, Kobe
Help Defense: Lebron, Wade, Kobe
Stealing: Wade, Kobe, Lebron
Blocking: Lebron, Wade, Kobe
Rebounding: Lebron, Kobe, Wade
Versatility: Kobe, Lebron, Wade
Awareness: Kobe, Lebron, Wade

Play Making:
Setting Up Teammates: Lebron, Wade, Kobe
Handling: Kobe, Wade, Lebron
Passing: Lebron, Wade, Kobe

Clutch:
Clutch Shots: Kobe, Wade, Lebron
Clutch Plays: Kobe, Wade, Lebron
Clutch Defense: Kobe, Lebron, Wade

IF we attribute 3 points for 1st, 2pts for 2nd, and 1pt for third. then

TOTAL

KOBE: 10 1st, 3 2nd, 7 3rd = 43 points total
LEBRON: 8 1st, 6 2nd, 6 3rd = 42 points total
WADE: 2 1st, 11 2nd, 7 3rd = 35 points total

WOW Kobe slightly ahead of Lebron by 1 pts. So it is obviously very close between Kobe/Lebron and Wade is close 3rd. No bias, if you disagree, then we can debate on which area you think should change.

[J08]

this is a very good way to compare. good job op

[GoLakers2011]

It should be Kobe, LeBron, and Durant.

Sorry but Durant clearly was the 3rd best player in the league this past season.

[kabstah]

Good thread. I actually have to think very deeply to answer this. And I can predict Kobe with the most skill in all of these area..



Offensive Game:
Inside Scoring: Lebron, Wade, Kobe
Mid-Range: Kobe, Wade, Lebron
Three Point: Kobe, Lebron, Wade
Drawing The Foul: Wade, Lebron, Kobe
Versatility: Lebron, Kobe, Wade
Awareness: Kobe, Lebron, Wade

Defensive Game:
Perimeter Defense: Kobe, Wade, Lebron
Inside Defense: Lebron, Wade, Kobe
Help Defense: Lebron, Wade, Kobe
Stealing: Wade, Kobe, Lebron
Blocking: Lebron, Wade, Kobe
Rebounding: Lebron, Kobe, Wade
Versatility: Kobe, Lebron, Wade
Awareness: Kobe, Lebron, Wade

Play Making:
Setting Up Teammates: Lebron, Wade, Kobe
Handling: Kobe, Wade, Lebron
Passing: Lebron, Wade, Kobe

Clutch:
Clutch Shots: Kobe, Wade, Lebron
Clutch Plays: Kobe, Wade, Lebron
Clutch Defense: Kobe, Lebron, Wade

IF we attribute 3 points for 1st, 2pts for 2nd, and 1pt for third. then

TOTAL

KOBE: 10 1st, 3 2nd, 7 3rd = 43 points total
LEBRON: 8 1st, 6 2nd, 6 3rd = 42 points total
WADE: 2 1st, 11 2nd, 7 3rd = 35 points total

WOW Kobe slightly ahead of Lebron by 1 pts. So it is obviously very close between Kobe/Lebron and Wade is close 3rd. No bias, if you disagree, then we can debate on which area you think should change.

How is Lebron ahead of Wade in shot-blocking when Wade actually blocks more shots per game? Similarly, Kobe shouldn't be ahead of Lebron in stealing, nor in any of the clutch categories. Assigning point values is specious, because not all categories are equally important.

[RunMCR]

Offensive Game:
Inside Scoring: Lebron, Wade, Kobe
Mid-Range: Kobe, Wade, Lebron
Three Point: Kobe, Lebron, Wade
Drawing The Foul: Wade, Lebron, Kobe
Versatility: Kobe, Lebron, Wade
Awareness: Kobe, Wade, Lebron

Defensive Game:
Perimeter Defense: Kobe, Wade, Lebron
Inside Defense: Lebron, Wade, Kobe
Help Defense: Wade, Lebron, Kobe
Stealing: Wade, Kobe, Lebron
Blocking: Lebron, Wade, Kobe
Rebounding: Lebron, Kobe, Wade
Versatility: Lebron, Kobe, Wade
Awareness: Kobe, Lebron, Wade

Play Making:
Setting Up Teammates: Lebron, Wade/Kobe
Handling: Kobe, Wade, Lebron
Passing: Lebron, Wade/Kobe

Clutch:
Clutch Shots: Kobe, Wade, Lebron
Clutch Plays: Kobe, Wade, Lebron
Clutch Defense: Kobe, Lebron, Wade

[Wavy Q]

I'm sure there's a bunch of threads comparing the three, but I don't think it's ever been so detailed like this before. See who's actually the best at what, and then add it up to see who's the best player. ONLY use Kobe Bryant, LeBron James & Dwyane Wade. Seeing that it's clear that they are the 3 best players in the league.

Put the names in order for each category.

ex: Inside Scoring: Dwyane Wade, LeBron James, Kobe Bryant

Offensive Game:
Inside Scoring: LeBron James/Dwyane Wade/Kobe Bryant
Mid-Range: Kobe Bryant/Dwyane Wade/LeBron James
Three Point: Kobe Bryant/LeBron James/Dwyane Wade
Drawing The Foul: Dwyane Wade/LeBron James/Kobe Bryant
Versatility: LeBron James/Kobe Bryant/Dwyane Wade
Awareness: Kobe Bryant/Dwyane Wade/LeBron James

Defensive Game:
Perimeter Defense: Kobe Bryant/Dwyane Wade/LeBron James
Inside Defense: LeBron James/Kobe Bryant/Dwyane Wade
Help Defense: LeBron James/Dwyane Wade/Kobe Bryant
Stealing: Dwyane Wade/Kobe Bryant/LeBron James
Blocking: LeBron James/Kobe Bryant/Dwyane Wade
Rebounding: Wash from respective positions
Versatility: Kobe Bryant/LeBron James/Dwyane Wade
Awareness: Kobe Bryant/Dwyane Wade/LeBron James

Play Making:
Setting Up Teammates: Dwyane Wade/LeBron James/Kobe Bryant
Handling: Kobe Bryant/Dwyane Wade/LeBron James
Passing: LeBron James/Kobe Bryant/Dwyane Wade

Clutch:
Clutch Shots: Kobe Bryant/Dwyane Wade/LeBron James
Clutch Plays: Kobe Bryant/Dwyane Wade/LeBron James
Clutch Defense: Kobe Bryant/LeBron James/Dwyane Wade


Overall, Kobe Bryant is the best basketball player in the NBA.

i guess

[GoLakers2011]

It should be Kobe/LeBron/Durant.

[DrProphet]

I'm sure there's a bunch of threads comparing the three, but I don't think it's ever been so detailed like this before. See who's actually the best at what, and then add it up to see who's the best player. ONLY use Kobe Bryant, LeBron James & Dwyane Wade. Seeing that it's clear that they are the 3 best players in the league.

Put the names in order for each category.

ex: Inside Scoring: Dwyane Wade, LeBron James, Kobe Bryant

Offensive Game:
Inside Scoring: Bron, Wade, Kobe
Mid-Range: Kobe, Wade, Bron
Three Point: Kobe, Bron, Wade
Drawing The Foul: Wade, Bron, Kobe
Versatility: Bron, Kobe, Wade
Awareness: Kobe, Wade, Bron

Defensive Game:
Perimeter Defense: Kobe, I'll admit idk enough about Bron and Wade's perimeter defensive abilities to call this
Inside Defense: Wade, Bron, Kobe
Help Defense: Bron, Kobe, Wade
Stealing: Wade, Kobe, Bron
Blocking: Wade, Bron, Kobe
Rebounding: Bron, Kobe, Wade
Versatility: Kobe, Wade, Bron
Awareness: Kobe, Wade, Bron

Play Making:
Setting Up Teammates: Kobe, Wade, Bron (I'll explain my reasoning for this and LeBron's low awareness if anyone asks)
Handling: Wade, Kobe, Bron (All are superb)
Passing: Kobe, Bron, Wade

Clutch:
Clutch Shots: Kobe, Wade, Bron
Clutch Plays: Kobe, Bron, Wade
Clutch Defense: Kobe, Bron, Wade


Overall, ___________ is the best basketball player in the NBA.

[DrProphet]

Oh and Kobe is #1 overall in my book

[IceColdCuban]

Offensive Game:
Inside Scoring: Bron, Wade, Kobe
Mid-Range: Kobe, Wade, Bron
Three Point: Kobe, Bron, Wade
Drawing The Foul: Wade, Bron, Kobe
Versatility: Wade, Kobe, Bron
Awareness: Kobe, Wade, Bron

Defensive Game:
Perimeter Defense: Wade, Kobe, Lebron
Inside Defense: Wade, Bron, Kobe
Help Defense: Bron, Wade, Kobe
Stealing: Wade, Kobe, Bron
Blocking: Wade, Bron, Kobe
Rebounding: Bron, Kobe, Wade
Versatility: Wade, Bron, Kobe
Awareness: Wade, Kobe, Bron

Play Making:
Setting Up Teammates: Bron, Wade, Kobe
Handling: Wade, Kobe, Bron
Passing: Bron, Wade, Kobe

Clutch:
Clutch Shots: Kobe, Wade, Bron
Clutch Plays: Bron, Wade, Kobe
Clutch Defense: Wade, Bron, Kobe

1st= 3pts, 2nd= 2pts, 3rd= 1pt

Lebron = 37pts
Kobe = 34pts
Wade = 41pts

Overall, _____WADE_____ is the best basketball player in the NBA.

[ipoopinmypants]

It should be Kobe/LeBron/Durant.

OK Kenny Smith.

[initiald]

Good thread. I actually have to think very deeply to answer this. And I can predict Kobe with the most skill in all of these area..



Offensive Game:
Inside Scoring: Lebron, Wade, Kobe
Mid-Range: Kobe, Wade, Lebron
Three Point: Kobe, Lebron, Wade
Drawing The Foul: Wade, Lebron, Kobe
Versatility: Lebron, Kobe, Wade
Awareness: Kobe, Lebron, Wade

Defensive Game:
Perimeter Defense: Kobe, Wade, Lebron
Inside Defense: Lebron, Wade, Kobe
Help Defense: Lebron, Wade, Kobe
Stealing: Wade, Kobe, Lebron
Blocking: Lebron, Wade, Kobe
Rebounding: Lebron, Kobe, Wade
Versatility: Kobe, Lebron, Wade
Awareness: Kobe, Lebron, Wade

Play Making:
Setting Up Teammates: Lebron, Wade, Kobe
Handling: Kobe, Wade, Lebron
Passing: Lebron, Wade, Kobe

Clutch:
Clutch Shots: Kobe, Wade, Lebron
Clutch Plays: Kobe, Wade, Lebron
Clutch Defense: Kobe, Lebron, Wade

IF we attribute 3 points for 1st, 2pts for 2nd, and 1pt for third. then

TOTAL

KOBE: 10 1st, 3 2nd, 7 3rd = 43 points total
LEBRON: 8 1st, 6 2nd, 6 3rd = 42 points total
WADE: 2 1st, 11 2nd, 7 3rd = 35 points total

WOW Kobe slightly ahead of Lebron by 1 pts. So it is obviously very close between Kobe/Lebron and Wade is close 3rd. No bias, if you disagree, then we can debate on which area you think should change.

How is Lebron ahead of Wade in shot-blocking when Wade actually blocks more shots per game? Similarly, Kobe shouldn't be ahead of Lebron in stealing, nor in any of the clutch categories. Assigning point values is specious, because not all categories are equally important.

No, Lebron and Wade are extremely close in blocking stat, check NBA.com in regular season and playoff. This year playoff, Lebron had close to 1.8 while Wade had 1.6. I have to say Lebron is a much better shot blocker especially from behind and Lebron has 4 inches on him. So it's pretty easy most of Lebron blocks seem easy.

Again, Kobe's steal average vs Lebron is also very close. But Kobe in his prime is a much better steal than Lebron is right now, especially given Kobe **** up finger this past 2 seasons, it's obviously he can't play in the passing lane as often. Yet despite that, his steal average this season is the same as Lebron (1.6spg).

Dude, in a basketball game, it's the all-around package that matter. It's pretty obviously we didn't include free-throw shooting and killer instinct and **** like that. Otherwise it wouldn't be close between Kobe/Lebron/Wade. But I think my evaluation score is very non-bias.