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Post#1 RealGM Top 100 List -- 2011
Thu Jun 30, 2011 2:17 pm by Baller 24

RealGM's 100 Greatest
1) Michael Jordan
2) Bill Russell
3) Kareem Abdul-Jabbar
4) Magic Johnson
5) Wilt Chamberlain
6) Larry Bird
7) Shaquille O'Neal
8) Tim Duncan
9) Hakeem Olajuwon
10) Kobe Bryant
11) Julius Erving
12) Karl Malone
13) Kevin Garnett
14) Oscar Robertson
15) Jerry West
16) Moses Malone
17) Dirk Nowitzki
18) LeBron James
19) Bob Pettit
20) Charles Barkley
21) David Robinson
22) Dwyane Wade
23) Walt Frazier
24) Steve Nash
25) Scottie Pippen
26) Elgin Baylor
27) Patrick Ewing
28) John Havlicek
29) Isiah Thomas
30) Rick Barry
31) John Stockton
32) Gary Payton
33) Clyde Drexler
34) Artis Gilmore
35) George Gervin
36) Jason Kidd
37) Tracy McGrady
38) Paul Pierce
39) Dwight Howard
40) Kevin McHale
41) Dominique Wilkins
42) Reggie Miller
43) Willis Reed
44) Bob Cousy
45) Dave Cowens
46) Allen Iverson
47) Bill Walton
48) Alonzo Mourning
49) Elvin Hayes
50) Chris Paul
51) Kevin Johnson
52) Bob McAdoo
53) Sidney Moncrief
54) Ray Allen
55) Bob Lanier
56) Alex English
57) Wes Unseld
58) Paul Arizin
59) Sam Jones
60) Manu Ginobili
61) Marques Johnson
62) Pau Gasol
63) Bernard King
64) Dennis Rodman
65) Penny Hardaway
66) Nate Thurmond
67) Robert Parish
68) Dolph Schayes
69) Grant Hill
70) Vince Carter
71) Dikembe Mutombo
72) Billy Cunningham
73) James Worthy
74) David Thompson
75) Nate Archibald
76) Chris Webber
77) Bobby Jones
78) Hal Greer
79) Mark Price
80) Connie Hawkins
81) Ben Wallace
82) Shawn Kemp
83) Chauncey Billups
84) Adrian Dantley
85) Deron Williams
86) Elton Brand
87) Bill Sharman
88) Jack Sikma
89) Mel Daniels
90) Larry Nance
91) Joe Dumars
92) Gus Williams
93) Carmelo Anthony
94) Tim Hardaway
95) Jerry Lucas
96) Chris Mullin
97) Dave DeBusschere
98) Brad Daugherty
99) Bob Dandridge
100) Bill Laimbeer
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Post#2 Re: RealGM Top 100 List
Thu Jun 30, 2011 7:39 pm by GilmoreFan

Can we get a list of all the people who voted for this first list (it's about 35 people I think)? That way future voters can be let in on a case by case basis, and there won't be spamming from Lebron or Kobe homies a few votes down the line.

EDIT:
Since I've been asked to by Penbeast, I've compiled a list of said voters here.

1. penbeast0 (Wizards)
2. Baller24 (Rockets)
3. SDChargers#1 (Lakers)
4. Fencer Registered (Celtics)
5. JordanBulls (Bulls)
6. Dr Mufasa (Raptors)
7. ElGee (Celtics)
8. GilmoreFan (Kentucky Colonels) -- No longer posting in project
9. An Unbiased Fan (Lakers)
10. Drza (76ers)
11. Snakebikes (Pistons)
12. RonnyMac2 (Lakers)
13. rravenred (Bucks)
14. ThaRegul8r
15. DavidStern (Bulls & Knicks)
16. mysticbb (Bulls)
17. TmacforMVP (Rockets)
18. Lukearts
19. Jay From LA (Lakers)
20. Pancakes3 (Wizards)
21. Laimbeer (Pistons)
22. Jimmy76 (Suns)
23. Vinsanity420 (Magic)
24. Bucksfans1and2 (Bucks)
25. Sedale Threatt (Lakers)
26. FJS (Jazz)
27. RoyceDa59 (Raptors)
28. Green Hat
29. cpower
30. Warspite (Pistons) -- No Longer Posting in Project
31. Dr MJ (Lakers)
32. Black Feet (Lakers)
33. shawngoat23 (Bulls)
34. Doormatt (Lakers)
35. Gongxi (Bulls)
36. Optimism Prime (Rockets)
37. Fatal 9
38. therealbig3
39. colts18
40. DocHoops -- No Longer Posting in Project
41. Jerky Way

Lakers- 8
Bulls- 5
Pistons- 3
Rockets- 3
Raptors- 2
Bucks- 2
Celtics- 1
Wizards- 2
Colonels- 1
Suns- 1
Jazz- 1
Knicks- 1
Magic- 1
76ers- 1

I will not be adding any further names unless I am PM'd about it to let me know they've been added to the list. This will hopefully minimise stacking later.
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Post#3 Re: RealGM Top 100 List
Thu Jun 30, 2011 10:52 pm by JordansBulls

Can you recount as well the #1.

As far as I can see this was the total votes and nominations.

Votes:
MJ 22
Russell 6
KAJ 5
Wilt 1

Nominations
Dr J 12
Moses 4
Robertson 3
West 3
KG 3
Mikan 2
K. Malone 2
LeBron 1

As a note a few posters didn't give nominations they just voted for the #1 player.
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Post#4 Re: RealGM Top 100 List
Thu Jun 30, 2011 10:57 pm by GilmoreFan

That count is wrong. Jordan had at least 22 votes, Moses 4, and Dr J was up at 12-13, just to point out a few errors.
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Post#5 Re: RealGM Top 100 List
Fri Jul 1, 2011 12:52 am by GilmoreFan

I should add, if people give me their team affiliation, I will add it in brackets... I will also add people who I've seen identify a team affiliation already, so we can get an idea of how balanced the voting panel is...
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Post#6 Re: RealGM Top 100 List
Fri Jul 1, 2011 2:51 am by rrravenred

Bucks fan here. There's a reason past glories have such an allure. ;)
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Post#7 Re: RealGM Top 100 List
Fri Jul 1, 2011 3:44 am by ronnymac2

Just for the sake of being completely open, I'm a Lakers fan, but I'm also a Knicks fan and a Nets fan.
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Post#8 Re: RealGM Top 100 List
Fri Jul 1, 2011 4:02 am by Dr Positivity

you don't have to worry about me cheering for my own players

(Royce is Raptors confirmed btw, you can removed the ?)

Edit - My personal top 100

1. Michael Jordan
2. Bill Russell
3. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar
4. Tim Duncan
5. Magic Johnson
6. Larry Bird
7. Hakeem Olajuwon
8. Shaquille O'Neal
9. Wilt Chamberlain
10. Kevin Garnett
11. Kobe Bryant
12. Jerry West
13. Julius Erving
14. Oscar Robertson
15. Karl Malone
16. Dirk Nowitzki
17. Charles Barkley
18. Lebron James
19. Steve Nash
20. Moses Malone
21. Bob Pettit
22. David Robinson
23. Patrick Ewing
24. John Havlicek
25. Scottie Pippen
26. Dwyane Wade
27. Elgin Baylor
28. Isiah Thomas
29. Rick Barry
30. Paul Pierce
31. Clyde Drexler
32. John Stockton
33. Gary Payton
34. Alonzo Mourning
35. Dwight Howard
36. Kevin Johnson
37. Walt Frazier
38. Willis Reed
39. Artis Gilmore
40. Reggie Miller
41. Dominique Wilkins
42. Kevin McHale
43. Dave Cowens
44. George Gervin
45. Ray Allen
46. Elvin Hayes
47. Pau Gasol
48. Bob Lanier
49. Alex English
50. Tracy McGrady
51. Bernard King
52. Manu Ginobili
53. Vince Carter
54. Grant Hill
55. Wes Unseld
56. Robert Parish
57. Nate Thurmond
58. Dikembe Mutumbo
59. Dolph Schayes
60. Jason Kidd
61. Billy Cunningham
62. Carmelo Anthony
63. Allen Iverson
64. Paul Arizin
65. Bill Walton
66. Chris Paul
67. Penny Hardaway
68. Bob McAdoo
69. Sidney Moncrief
70. Marques Johnson
71. David Thompson
72. Sam Jones
73. Chris Webber

Estimated tiers (My philosophy: Everyone within a tier can be reasonably ranked above or below one another, they are grouped together because the difference is not obvious by my criteria. Once the difference between players becomes big enough for me to feel there is a clearly identifiable gap by my criteria, the lower player(s) get placed into the next tier.)

Tier 1 - Michael Jordan, Bill Russell, Kareem Abdul-Jabbar
Tier 2 - Tim Duncan, Magic Johnson, Larry Bird, Hakeem Olajuwon, Shaquille O'Neal
Tier 3 - Wilt Chamberlain, Kevin Garnett, Kobe Bryant, Jerry West, Julius Erving, Oscar Robertson
Tier 4 - Karl Malone, Dirk Nowitzki
Tier 5 - Lebron James, Charles Barkley, Moses Malone, Steve Nash
Tier 6 - Bob Pettit, David Robinson, Patrick Ewing, John Havlicek, Scottie Pippen, Dwyane Wade, Elgin Baylor, Isiah Thomas, Rick Barry, Paul Pierce, Clyde Drexler, John Stockton, Gary Payton
Tier 7 - Alonzo Mourning, Dwight Howard, Kevin Johnson, Walt Frazier, Willis Reed
Tier 8 - Artis Gilmore, Reggie Miller, Dominique Wilkins, Kevin McHale, Dave Cowens, George Gervin, Ray Allen, Elvin Hayes, Pau Gasol, Bob Lanier, Alex English
Tier 9 - Tracy McGrady, Bernard King, Manu Ginobili, Vince Carter, Grant Hill, Wes Unseld, Robert Parish, Nate Thurmond, Dikembe Mutumbo, Dolph Schayes, Jason Kidd, Billy Cunningham
Tier 10 - Carmelo Anthony, Paul Arizin, Bill Walton, Chris Paul, Penny Hardaway, Allen Iverson, Bob McAdoo, Sidney Moncrief, Marques Johnson, David Thompson
Tier 11 - Sam Jones, Chris Webber
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Post#9 Re: RealGM Top 100 List
Fri Jul 1, 2011 9:29 am by JordansBulls

Forgot to mention I'm a Bulls fan.
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Post#10 Re: RealGM Top 100 List
Fri Jul 1, 2011 10:00 am by lorak

GilmoreFan wrote:That count is wrong. Jordan had at least 22 votes, Moses 4, and Dr J was up at 12-13, just to point out a few errors.


By my count 33 people voted, 3 of them didn't nominate anyone and the results are:

MJ 21
Russell 6
KAJ 5
Wilt 1

and
Dr J 12
Moses 4
Robertson 3
West 3
KG 3
Mikan 2
K. Malone 2
LeBron 1
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Post#11 Re: RealGM Top 100 List
Fri Jul 1, 2011 10:27 am by Dipper 13

30. Dipper13



I am not a voter in this project. :clap:
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Post#12 Re: RealGM Top 100 List
Fri Jul 1, 2011 6:22 pm by GilmoreFan

Duly adjusted. You contributed alot to the initial thread with Jordan, and that's where the list was generated from obviously, so I included you anyway.
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Post#13 Re: RealGM Top 100 List
Fri Jul 1, 2011 7:41 pm by GilmoreFan

DavidStern wrote:
GilmoreFan wrote:That count is wrong. Jordan had at least 22 votes, Moses 4, and Dr J was up at 12-13, just to point out a few errors.


By my count 33 people voted, 3 of them didn't nominate anyone and the results are:

MJ 21
Russell 6
KAJ 5
Wilt 1

and
Dr J 12
Moses 4
Robertson 3
West 3
KG 3
Mikan 2
K. Malone 2
LeBron 1


Which team are you a fan of Stern?
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Post#14 Re: RealGM Top 100 List
Sat Jul 2, 2011 3:50 am by lorak

Bulls and Knicks

BTW, for some reasons I missed An Unbiased Fan's votes in first thread, so it should be total 34 people voted and MJ 22 with Mikan 3.
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Post#15 Re: RealGM Top 100 List
Sat Jul 2, 2011 3:37 pm by Doctor MJ

ronnymac2 wrote:Just for the sake of being completely open, I'm a Lakers fan, but I'm also a Knicks fan and a Nets fan.


And for the record, while I am a Lakers fan, I am a bit of a Harlem Rens homer. 8-)

EDIT: This seems as good a place as any to put my own Top 100 list as I'm forced to commit. Note that why the list is somewhat concretized by this process, I have no qualms about making further changes as I reflect.

Also with some players you will see a note of my personal dilemmas in parens.

1. Bill Russell
2. Michael Jordan
3. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar
4. Magic Johnson
5. Larry Bird
6. Hakeem Olajuwon
7. Tim Duncan
8. Kevin Garnett
9. Shaquille O'Neal (So tough, my "what would he do for my franchise" hurts him. Peak'd be higher)
10. Kobe Bryant
11. Julius Erving
12. Karl Malone
13. Wilt Chamberlain
14. Oscar Robertson
15. Jerry West (3 60s guys in a row? Doesn't seem right)
16. Moses Malone
17. LeBron James
18. Dirk Nowitzki
19. Charles Barkley
20. David Robinson
21. Bob Pettit
22. Dwyane Wade
23. Steve Nash
24. Walt Frazier
25. Scottie Pippen
26. Rick Barry
27. Patrick Ewing
28. John Havlicek
29. Gary Payton
30. Elgin Baylor
31. Artis Gilmore
32. George Gervin
33. John Stockton
34. Clyde Drexler
35. George Mikan
36. Isiah Thomas
37. Paul Pierce
38. Jason Kidd
39. Dwight Howard
40. Reggie Miller
41. Kevin McHale
42. Chris Paul
43. Tracy McGrady
44. Dominique Wilkins
45. Alonzo Mourning
46. Willis Reed
47. Kevin Johnson
48. Bob McAdoo
49. Ray Allen
50. Paul Arizin
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Post#16 Re: RealGM Top 100 List
Sat Jul 2, 2011 5:52 pm by Vinsanity420

Magic fan here... the only one in the project.

I would never have guessed Doc MJ is a Laker fan.
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Post#17 Re: RealGM Top 100 List
Sat Jul 2, 2011 6:52 pm by Doctor MJ

No one ever does. :)
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Post#18 Re: RealGM Top 100 List
Sat Jul 2, 2011 10:25 pm by penbeast0

It's a damn shame TrueLAFan isn't participating. What's a top 100 list without someone to speak for all the great Clippers who should make the list? (Buffalo doesn't count)
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Post#19 Re: RealGM Top 100 List
Sun Jul 3, 2011 2:07 am by GilmoreFan

Disappointing Russell makes it as 2nd. I've been doing some mental calculations, and things should light up around the 4th or 5th vote. I think alot of people are going to be surprised about some nominations too, at the present rate I think Oscar and West are a long way from being nominated, and I'm going to be pretty surprised if Kobe makes it to the top 13. It'll be really interesting actually, because if my guess is right, he'll be in a direct vote off with Lebron for the 14th spot.
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Post#20 Re: RealGM Top 100 List
Sun Jul 3, 2011 2:17 am by lorak

GilmoreFan wrote:Disappointing Russell makes it as 2nd.


I strongly disagree with you :D
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