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Post#676 Re: RealGM Top 100 List
Thu Aug 30, 2012 1:17 pm by NyCeEvO

I apologize in advance if someone has asked this recently, but when is the next voting period? I'd like to get involved with this.
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Post#677 Re: RealGM Top 100 List
Thu Aug 30, 2012 1:23 pm by lorak

NyCeEvO wrote:I apologize in advance if someone has asked this recently, but when is the next voting period? I'd like to get involved with this.


Probably summer 2014, because during summer 2013 we will do (I hope so... ) Retro Defensive Player of the Year Project :)
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Post#678 Re: RealGM Top 100 List
Thu Aug 30, 2012 1:35 pm by ardee

DavidStern wrote:
NyCeEvO wrote:I apologize in advance if someone has asked this recently, but when is the next voting period? I'd like to get involved with this.


Probably summer 2014, because during summer 2013 we will do (I hope so... ) Retro Defensive Player of the Year Project :)


Along with Retro Offensive Player of the Year, I hope.
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Post#679 Re: RealGM Top 100 List
Sat Sep 1, 2012 10:51 pm by thizznation

All these projects are turning into a resourceful reference within themselves, almost like an advanced ranking statistic compiled of all the advanced stats plus some good ol' fashioned eyeballin'. I like it.
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Post#680 Re: RealGM Top 100 List
Sat Sep 1, 2012 11:16 pm by Doctor MJ

thizznation wrote:All these projects are turning into a resourceful reference within themselves, almost like an advanced ranking statistic compiled of all the advanced stats plus some good ol' fashioned eyeballin'. I like it.


i for one think it's pretty damn awesome. i can't tell you how much I've learned.

And I agree with DS and ardee, while I don't know what will happen next summer, I'm hoping we decide to hold off on the Top 100 one more year. The Top 100 is just a beast. Not saying the RPOY wasn't a beast, but when it really started to drag we wrapped it up. Voting a 100 guys starts to drag well before spot 100. Best not to tackle it until we're all really itching for a re-do.

But with that said, penbeast has been the one running the 100 projects, so we'll see what he wants.
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Post#681 Re: RealGM Top 100 List
Sat Sep 1, 2012 11:55 pm by Lightning25

I would definitely like to be apart of the voting panel for the Top 100 list.

I would also like it if there was no nomination for the next player too. I feel like it almost forced you to pick certain players even if you didn't think he either belonged there. I think it was mainly like that after #30, at least based off of what I was reading. I didn't think players like McGrady, Dwight, or even Reggie should have been that high but due to certain nominations it happened. For example, if I was voting, I wouldn't have been able to vote for Worthy over Nique or Ray over Reggie, two players I do believe should be ranked above the other, because of the nominations.

I think the voting should be similar to peak.
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Post#682 Re: RealGM Top 100 List
Sun Sep 2, 2012 5:40 am by therealbig3

Perhaps to not let it drag as much, what about reducing the top 100 to top 50?

I voted til the end, but it did get kind of boring to be honest, because there were only like 10 people left at that point, and there wasn't much discussion anymore, just a lot of copying and pasting, or a bunch of one line explanations just to satisfy the "you have to explain yourself" rule. But there was still a lot of active participation around 50.

Just a thought.
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Post#683 Re: RealGM Top 100 List
Fri Sep 7, 2012 2:24 am by nikomCH

thizznation wrote:All these projects are turning into a resourceful reference within themselves, almost like an advanced ranking statistic compiled of all the advanced stats plus some good ol' fashioned eyeballin'. I like it.


Indeed. And the fact that we can go back to each topic of discussion to see the explanations is another huge resource.
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Post#684 Re: RealGM Top 100 List
Sat Sep 8, 2012 4:28 pm by penbeast0

Doctor MJ wrote:
thizznation wrote:All these projects are turning into a resourceful reference within themselves, almost like an advanced ranking statistic compiled of all the advanced stats plus some good ol' fashioned eyeballin'. I like it.


i for one think it's pretty damn awesome. i can't tell you how much I've learned.

And I agree with DS and ardee, while I don't know what will happen next summer, I'm hoping we decide to hold off on the Top 100 one more year. The Top 100 is just a beast. Not saying the RPOY wasn't a beast, but when it really started to drag we wrapped it up. Voting a 100 guys starts to drag well before spot 100. Best not to tackle it until we're all really itching for a re-do.

But with that said, penbeast has been the one running the 100 projects, so we'll see what he wants.


Actually they always start with someone else running them but I end up doing it by default (and having fun doing it too). 8-)
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Post#685 Re: RealGM Top 100 List
Mon Sep 10, 2012 12:42 am by magic wand time

The inflation of current / recent players in these lists is horrific, in the worst 20 yrs of the watered down nba. Embarassing.
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Post#686 Re: RealGM Top 100 List
Mon Sep 10, 2012 3:23 am by ardee

magic wand time wrote:The inflation of current / recent players in these lists is horrific, in the worst 20 yrs of the watered down nba. Embarassing.


Watered down? Until the '96 season the NBA was going just as strong as during the Magic/Bird years. From '97-'05 there was a dip, but since then there's been no looking back after the rule changes.

Make a case against the current players you don't like if that's the way you feel.
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Post#687 Re: RealGM Top 100 List
Mon Sep 10, 2012 3:54 am by thizznation

magic wand time wrote:The inflation of current / recent players in these lists is horrific, in the worst 20 yrs of the watered down nba. Embarassing.



I would like to nominate this to the RealGM Top 100 Posts of All-Time.
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Post#688 Re: RealGM Top 100 List
Mon Sep 10, 2012 8:13 pm by magic wand time

Well thank you. Such an honor. I humbly accept.

While I have the podium, I will also call for contraction back to 24 teams so the nba can regain its glory and demand Hondo be put back into his rightful place in the top 15.
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Post#689 Re: RealGM Top 100 List
Fri Sep 14, 2012 11:07 pm by ricochet

fatal9 wrote:Yea, the Dream Shake is the fake left/fake right shimmy usually followed by a turn toward the middle of the floor for a jump hook. It was virtually unstoppable because he would set you up with the baseline fadeaway all game, and then counter with that (instead of turning baseline, he'd turn to middle). Then he had several counter moves for the dream shake/jump hook too if the defender began overplaying, one of the more common ones was this:

That's why his post game was so great, it was instinctive and always kept the defenders guessing, but at the same time he had several go to moves that simply couldn't be stopped.


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Post#690 Re: RealGM Top 100 List
Mon Oct 15, 2012 9:17 am by Dipper 13

The inflation of current / recent players in these lists is horrific, in the worst 20 yrs of the watered down nba. Embarassing.


We even saw a guy like Odom mentioned ahead of HOF'er Chet Walker.
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Post#691 Re: RealGM Top 100 List
Mon Oct 15, 2012 9:42 am by ardee

Dipper 13 wrote:
The inflation of current / recent players in these lists is horrific, in the worst 20 yrs of the watered down nba. Embarassing.


We even saw a guy like Odom mentioned ahead of HOF'er Chet Walker.


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G: Raja Bell(2006-08)
F: Paul Pressey(1985-87)
F: Terry Cummings(1984-86)
C: Alvan Adams(1980-82)
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Post#692 Re: RealGM Top 100 List
Mon Oct 15, 2012 10:31 am by Dipper 13

Odom came up towards the end of the project that I feel Walker was neglected in. Not that the two were directly compared with each other.
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Post#693 Re: RealGM Top 100 List
Wed Oct 17, 2012 1:35 pm by AlphaWolfAWBA

Kobe at #10..

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Post#694 Re: RealGM Top 100 List
Sun Oct 21, 2012 12:39 am by Dr Positivity

Peaks project is proving Frazier at #23 was a huge mistake. Not even being mentioned by #31 AND a shortened peak/career... hard to justify him getting near the top 25 on the ATL with that combination IMO
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Post#695 Re: RealGM Top 100 List
Sun Oct 21, 2012 6:26 pm by Doctor MJ

Dr Positivity wrote:Peaks project is proving Frazier at #23 was a huge mistake. Not even being mentioned by #31 AND a shortened peak/career... hard to justify him getting near the top 25 on the ATL with that combination IMO


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