Deus-DaRkJaWs wrote:What's the point? all you're doing with this project is seeing who can influence who in determining what ranking someone should get, and those influences can be completely wrong. even worse, you guys are influenced by your personal biases and act like you're being objective. I personally think we should not be allowed to talk about any player post 1990, and only allowed to debate players from before then. Why? Because the current generation of players are already getting the benefit from younger (and dumber) fans, the ones we need to talk about are the older players. Point is, we've already seen this generation of players, and everyone has their own opinion based on what their eyes saw, we don't need advanced statistics or an accurate story to have a rating, I'd much rather depend on everyone's subjective rankings because then you know their biases loud and clear. It doesn't matter whether the list is only a subjective ranking, because that's all that it can be. To think this Top 100 list can possibly be objective is laughable, as is the notion that if you do it again it might tell us something different about the players.
The reality that people do care overly much about the actual rankings is not in dispute. It's a problem, in the sense that I wish that weren't the case, but not a very big one. What exactly are the consequences of this issue?
Beyond that, I suppose what stands out to me most about you is how you completely dismiss facts as if they are someone something that gets in the way of something else that is somehow more important to you. It's pretty insane.
I mean I understand that you basically don't trust stats at all, but you added "an accurate story" to the things that we don't need. It seems to me like an ideal discussion for you would involve nothing more relishing in mythology, and this to me seems entirely pointless as far as it relates to a project of this scale.
Clearly my perspective of what can get accomplished by these projects is very different. For me the point is education, and certainly not simply the education of others. The fact that what I learn cannot always be known to be absolutely true does not make the education impossible. Were that the case there would never be any point to really any form of education. And indeed, when I hear you talk, and see how badly you miss the point of what we do here, I do wonder at just what else in life you take such a vicious stand on. How many other areas do you develop a hardline opinion on so earlier in your educational process that you aren't even close to really understanding the actual debate?