worst defender ever - Amare Stoudemire

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worst defender ever - Amare Stoudemire 

Post#1 » by bastillon » Thu Apr 26, 2012 11:35 am

[GR] wrote:Deandre Jordan, but in the poll, Fisher.

However, do not discount Amare.


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Re: worst defender ever - Amare Stoudemire 

Post#2 » by rrravenred » Thu Apr 26, 2012 11:38 am

Is there any sort of actual question in that?
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Re: worst defender ever - Amare Stoudemire 

Post#3 » by bastillon » Thu Apr 26, 2012 11:42 am

rrravenred wrote:Is there any sort of actual question in that?


have you seen the clips ? :D
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Post#4 » by Regulio » Thu Apr 26, 2012 12:23 pm

oh my god this is beyond atrocious
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Post#5 » by picc » Thu Apr 26, 2012 2:02 pm

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Post#6 » by HeartBreakKid » Thu Apr 26, 2012 3:22 pm

He has been so bad this season lol, I've said out loud "play some defense Stat" so many times this year.
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Post#7 » by tclg » Thu Apr 26, 2012 3:33 pm

Its hard to be a good team when you play defense like that. And he doesnt even rebound anymore
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Post#8 » by NYK 455 » Thu Apr 26, 2012 5:32 pm

He is absolutley the worst defender I've ever seen, and he'll be the reason why we get swept by Miami or Chicago instead of losing in 5 or 6. He makes David Lee look like Hakeem Olajuwon. It's a disgrace. He had another gem last night. Someone was driving, I can't remember who, and this fool was facing the basket, not having one single clue at what was going on.
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Post#9 » by MeloNY » Thu Apr 26, 2012 7:45 pm

He plays defense straight up. It would be nice if he learned how to bend his knees every once in a while.
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Post#10 » by Dr Positivity » Thu Apr 26, 2012 8:02 pm

The Parker gif is my favorite. Amare moves as much as Dan Majerle on his infamous travel.
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Post#11 » by picc » Thu Apr 26, 2012 8:15 pm

How does somebody get away with that. One of his teammates should have checked him by now, how do you let a **** just chill on D like that? Thats everybodys fault. smh. I'd be fighting one of my teammates if he did that all year. And we're playing for a championship? FOH.
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Post#12 » by AussieBuck » Thu Apr 26, 2012 11:02 pm

If anyone was motivated to watch the Bucks you'd have at least as many Gooden clips.
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Post#13 » by HeterodoxView » Fri Apr 27, 2012 6:04 am

amare also has to be the worst rebounder for someone of his size, absolutely unbelievable
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Post#14 » by Mo26 » Fri Apr 27, 2012 6:22 am

Nash is worse.
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Post#15 » by rrravenred » Fri Apr 27, 2012 8:52 am

Mo26 wrote:Nash is worse.


FWIW, the 10-year +/- figures have it at:

Nash +0.3
Amare: -1.1

(as an aside, apropos of nothing, Deron Williams is at a befuddlingly bad -1.8)
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Post#16 » by NYK 455 » Fri Apr 27, 2012 8:18 pm

Mo26 wrote:Nash is worse.

Nash is literally 100 times better a defender Amar'e is, and that's not hyperbole.
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Re: worst defender ever - Amare Stoudemire 

Post#17 » by therealbig3 » Fri Apr 27, 2012 9:10 pm

rrravenred wrote:
Mo26 wrote:Nash is worse.


FWIW, the 10-year +/- figures have it at:

Nash +0.3
Amare: -1.1

(as an aside, apropos of nothing, Deron Williams is at a befuddlingly bad -1.8)


FTR, although Deron is a bad defender (consistently negative on defense), the 10-year study is too long imo.

If you look at the 08-11 RAPM study: Deron is at -1.0, Nash is at +0.1, and Amare is at -0.9.

And year by year for Deron:

08: -0.3
09: -0.8
10: +0.5
11: -1.5
12: -1.3

His defense year by year really hasn't been a big deal either way until the last two years, when he's been pretty bad.

Amare year by year, from 08-12, not including 09 because he only played 53 games:

08: -1.9
10: -0.7
11: -2.7
12: -2.2

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