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Deron Williams vs. Rajon Rondo

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Deron or Rondo?

Deron Williams
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Rajon Rondo
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Re: Deron Williams vs. Rajon Rondo

Postby therealbig3 on Sun Nov 18, 2012 3:47 am

Bump...it seems relevant right now, since both guys look like they'll have big years.

It seems Rondo is getting a lot more traction lately, but Deron has played a lot better so far than he did last year, and the Nets overall are better. Have people's opinions changed about these two?
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Re: Deron Williams vs. Rajon Rondo

Postby Dr Olajuwon on Sun Nov 18, 2012 5:35 am

When Deron was in Utah, I always had him at the Top2 PG, fighting for the Top1 spot with Paul. After he left Utah (I'm not a Jazz supporter, just to make it clear), he has never been the same player to me. Deron is still Top5 PG in the league, but steps behind from Paul or Rondo.
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Re: Deron Williams vs. Rajon Rondo

Postby AussieBuck on Sun Nov 18, 2012 6:41 am

I'll take an in shape Williams over Rondo but maybe not the fat non defending version of the last couple of seasons.
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Re: Deron Williams vs. Rajon Rondo

Postby JordansBulls on Sun Nov 18, 2012 2:14 pm

I would rather have Deron. Just look at how he upset Melo and the Nuggets in 2010 with 2 of his own starters out of the playoffs.
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Re: Deron Williams vs. Rajon Rondo

Postby therealbig3 on Sun Nov 18, 2012 4:53 pm

AussieBuck wrote:I'll take an in shape Williams over Rondo but maybe not the fat non defending version of the last couple of seasons.


See, I don't really understand why some people keep saying Williams is out of shape or fat...he's always been a bigger PG, but I've never thought he was out of shape...he always plays an uptempo style and plays a lot of minutes, so I don't really see that.

And he's in really good shape this year after the Olympics.
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Re: Deron Williams vs. Rajon Rondo

Postby AussieBuck on Wed Nov 21, 2012 3:57 am

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AussieBuck wrote:I'll take an in shape Williams over Rondo but maybe not the fat non defending version of the last couple of seasons.


See, I don't really understand why some people keep saying Williams is out of shape or fat...he's always been a bigger PG, but I've never thought he was out of shape...he always plays an uptempo style and plays a lot of minutes, so I don't really see that.

And he's in really good shape this year after the Olympics.

I haven't watched him this season, which is why I didn't comment on it. He's looked fat at various points in the previous two seasons and stopped playing D during that time. If he's back to giving a **** then I'll take him over Rondo.
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Re: Deron Williams vs. Rajon Rondo

Postby Dr Positivity on Wed Nov 21, 2012 4:01 am

Deron's shooting hasn't been the same for a while. I still think he's better than Rondo
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Re: Deron Williams vs. Rajon Rondo

Postby therealbig3 on Wed Nov 21, 2012 4:36 am

Dr Positivity wrote:Deron's shooting hasn't been the same for a while. I still think he's better than Rondo


He was on a terrible team last year, and he's also been dealing with injuries the last couple of years. And it doesn't help that the coach is an idiot and doesn't know how to run a basic offensive set or that it's probably best to let an elite PG handle the ball instead of running around screens like he's Ray Allen.
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Re: Deron Williams vs. Rajon Rondo

Postby WhateverBro on Wed Nov 21, 2012 6:20 am

A little late on this but what exactly does Rondo do better than Deron Williams? D-Will beats him out in every single aspect of the game, basically..
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Re: Deron Williams vs. Rajon Rondo

Postby GreenBloodedC on Wed Nov 21, 2012 6:34 am

CP3's the only PG I'd choose over Rondo right now.

And we must understand that we're in '12, not '09.
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Re: Deron Williams vs. Rajon Rondo

Postby NO-KG-AI on Wed Nov 21, 2012 6:43 am

No reason for me to take Rondo over Williams. Rondo isn't the transcendent passer like his statistics suggest, and a more multifaceted threat like Williams could push more out of the Celtics offense the past few seasons.
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Re: Deron Williams vs. Rajon Rondo

Postby Ginobili on Wed Nov 21, 2012 7:19 am

Deron Williams is the better basketball player, but im still annoyed with his inefficient scoring percentages.

He seems to settle too much for the 3pt and mid-range shot, instead of taking it to the rim more than he actually does.
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Re: Deron Williams vs. Rajon Rondo

Postby Doormatt on Wed Nov 21, 2012 7:36 am

i went to the laker game yesterday against the nets, and kind of off topic, but i havent really watched the nets this year and im often confused on how they use dwill. like they will run an offensive set with joe johnson handling the ball and dwill running off screens to catch it and make a play off of that, or something along those lines. it blew my mind how many times they ran that against the lakers when all they had to do was let him go to work on morris and destroy him, which he did when he iso'd him or played against him in the pick n roll, especially in the 2nd half.

anyways, it seems like even with the nets not fully utilizing him (at least from what i saw) that hes still a vastly superior offensive player to rondo. i mean if you just watch them it seems obvious given the type of offense each can generate.
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Re: Deron Williams vs. Rajon Rondo

Postby MistyMountain20 on Wed Nov 21, 2012 9:03 am

I got the same impression watching the game. The Nets seem to encourage Williams to be more of a scorer, this has led to some spotty decision making on his part. 6 3's a game is way too much for him.
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Re: Deron Williams vs. Rajon Rondo

Postby orangeparka on Wed Nov 21, 2012 9:19 am

D-Will's shooting way too many suspect threes. He's still scoring efficiently but he could get back to his near-60% TS if he took better shots.

And yeah, D-Will over Rondo.
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