GetItDone wrote:Shaq easily.
Most dominant player in NBA history and faced far better competition.
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GetItDone wrote:Shaq easily.
Most dominant player in NBA history and faced far better competition.
nolunch wrote:GetItDone wrote:Shaq easily.
Most dominant player in NBA history and faced far better competition.
nolunch wrote:GetItDone wrote:Shaq easily.
Most dominant player in NBA history and faced far better competition.
GAME TIME wrote:Shaq has been swept in the post season 5 times in his prime. 94, 95, 96, 98, and 99. That certaintly goes against him being so dominant. He wasn't as dominant as you think.
Stats don't like, and Wilt clearly had more dominating stats than Shaq. I have Wilt winning this quite comfortably.
Raaccoonn wrote:I think its a fair argument to say that Shaq might have prolonged his dominance from the early 00's had he continued dedicating himself to fitness the way he did in 1998-2000 where he was really shredded physically and in amazing shape.
However Shaq still ended his career with a good 10-12 Super-Star level seasons.
Only Jordan, Kareem, Magic and Russell have a similar amount career wise.
Brenice wrote:Does adjusting Shaq's stats for pace consider Wilt's superior conditioning?
JordansBulls wrote:Brenice wrote:Does adjusting Shaq's stats for pace consider Wilt's superior conditioning?
You mean can Shaq play 48 minutes a game for season like Wilt did?
RayBan-Sematra wrote:JordansBulls wrote:Brenice wrote:Does adjusting Shaq's stats for pace consider Wilt's superior conditioning?
You mean can Shaq play 48 minutes a game for season like Wilt did?
Impossible to say but Shaq proved he could handle 38-42mpg during his Young & Prime years without any stamina issues.
I highly doubt Wilt would play more then 40-42mpg in this era so its kind of irrelevant honestly.
Brenice wrote:Does adjusting Shaq's stats for pace consider Wilt's superior conditioning?
GAME TIME wrote:nolunch wrote:GetItDone wrote:Shaq easily.
Most dominant player in NBA history and faced far better competition.
Shaq has been swept in the post season 5 times in his prime. 94, 95, 96, 98, and 99. That certaintly goes against him being so dominant. He wasn't as dominant as you think.
Stats don't lie, and Wilt clearly had more dominating stats than Shaq. I have Wilt winning this quite comfortably.
CBB_Fan wrote:Raaccoonn wrote:I think its a fair argument to say that Shaq might have prolonged his dominance from the early 00's had he continued dedicating himself to fitness the way he did in 1998-2000 where he was really shredded physically and in amazing shape.
However Shaq still ended his career with a good 10-12 Super-Star level seasons.
Only Jordan, Kareem, Magic and Russell have a similar amount career wise.
Take into account the type of play Wilt Chamberlain went through, and you'll see he had more durability than Shaq. Wilt never played less than 42 minutes per game, and in one season averaged 48.5 MPG. Shaq never played more than 40 a game.
Also, aside from 1969-1970, Wilt Chamberlain never missed more than 10 games in a season, and in 11 seasons he missed 3 or less. Shaq can say that about 4 seasons, and in 13 seasons he played less than 70 games. So while Wilt only had 12 seasons of dominance to Shaq's 14-16, Wilt's seasons were FAR more stressful in terms of games/minutes played.
There is a reason Wilt Chamberlain played about 6000 more career minutes than Shaq, despite playing 5 less seasons.
nolunch wrote:
Actually Wilt was playing much worse in playoffs than regular season.
QuantMisleads wrote:nolunch wrote:
Actually Wilt was playing much worse in playoffs than regular season.
Not really. Most of his playoff games are post 1966. Meaning his high scoring days didn't see a lot of time in the playoffs. however, yes, his scoring average did decline even in those years, but this is because defenses tightened up, they defended Wilt with 3-4 players, and Wilt's minutes did not increase in the playoffs like they do with other players. So this notion that he didn't perform as well in the playoffs is not true at all.
GAME TIME wrote:I would also like to add that Wilt was an 11 time rebounding champion and Shaq was donut. For some labeling him the most dominant ever, you would think with his size and athleticism, he could as least lead the league in rebounding just once and make the 1st team defensive team at least once in his career.
Wilt 4 mvps > Shaq 1mvp
Wilt is on another galaxy compared to Shaq numbers. Wilt dominated the game in a vastly superior way, just not in scoring, but rebounds, blocks, assists, defense etc.. and scoring was Shaq's thing and Wilt was still better than him.
QuantMisleads wrote:nolunch wrote:
Actually Wilt was playing much worse in playoffs than regular season.
Not really. Most of his playoff games are post 1966. Meaning his high scoring days didn't see a lot of time in the playoffs. however, yes, his scoring average did decline even in those years, but this is because defenses tightened up, they defended Wilt with 3-4 players, and Wilt's minutes did not increase in the playoffs like they do with other players. So this notion that he didn't perform as well in the playoffs is not true at all.
QuantMisleads wrote:Doesn't mean ****. Wilt averaged 30-20 for his career. If they recorded blocks that would have been near double digits as well.
GAME TIME wrote:QuantMisleads wrote:Not really. Most of his playoff games are post 1966. Meaning his high scoring days didn't see a lot of time in the playoffs. however, yes, his scoring average did decline even in those years, but this is because defenses tightened up, they defended Wilt with 3-4 players, and Wilt's minutes did not increase in the playoffs like they do with other players. So this notion that he didn't perform as well in the playoffs is not true at all.
very good points.
I would also like to add that Wilt was an 11 time rebounding champion and Shaq was donut. For some labeling him the most dominant ever, you would think with his size and athleticism, he could as least lead the league in rebounding just once and make the 1st team defensive team at least once in his career.
Wilt 7 time scoring champ
Wilt 11 time rebounding champ
Wilt 2 time defensive team (1st team)
Wilt 4 mvps > Shaq 1mvp
Wilt is on another galaxy compared to Shaq numbers. Wilt dominated the game in a vastly superior way, just not in scoring, but rebounds, blocks, assists, defense etc.. and scoring was Shaq's thing and Wilt was still better than him.