LeBron James vs Dwyane Wade:rank who had the best year since rookie year?

[Joao Saraiva]

Wade was better in 05 and 06. James was not efficeint in his rookie year, but his all arround game was still pretty good.

2010 James was better than Wade. Scored more, was more efficient, was the forward with the most APG ever in NBA history, rebounded more, played great D... I really don't see a case for Wade. People can talk about the series against Boston sure, but for Wade it was a lost cause with no pressure on his side.

2011 James was also better than Wade. Sure there is the NBA finals, and Wade performed way better than LeBron in the NBA finals. But I can't ignore an entire regular season and the rest of the playoffs. Wade vs the Bulls played worse than LeBron vs Dallas. The diference is the outcome of the series, because LeBron and Bosh played at great level.

[cpower]

Lebron was more dominated during the regular seasons (except 06 and 11) and Wade had a lot of better playoff runs.

[Joao Saraiva]

Lebron was more dominated during the regular seasons (except 06 and 11) and Wade had a lot of better playoff runs.

"A lot of better playoff runs". Such as?

2007, 2008 (Wade did not participate), 2009, 2012, 2013, 2014 are all locks for LeBron.

2011 is up for discussion, from 2004 to 2006 it's obviously all Wade (LeBron's 1st POs were at 2006).

So from the palyoffs both played, LeBron is a lock in 5 out of 8. 2006 is no doubt Wade, 2010 is up for discussion and 2011 too.

So if by a lot you mean 3 or less, then ok.

[cpower]

Lebron was more dominated during the regular seasons (except 06 and 11) and Wade had a lot of better playoff runs.

"A lot of better playoff runs". Such as?

2007, 2008 (Wade did not participate), 2009, 2012, 2013, 2014 are all locks for LeBron.

2011 is up for discussion, from 2004 to 2006 it's obviously all Wade (LeBron's 1st POs were at 2006).

So from the palyoffs both played, LeBron is a lock in 5 out of 8. 2006 is no doubt Wade, 2010 is up for discussion and 2011 too.

So if by a lot you mean 3 or less, then ok.

06, 10, 11 are wade's years and 08, 09 and after 11 are lebron's. By a lot I meant a comparison to regular seasons which he only better at 2 out of 12 years

[Greatness]

Where is the myth coming from that Wade is a better playoff performer than LeBron?

LeBron per 100 poss: 40/10/7 116 ORtg, 101 DRtg, 27.7 PER, 57.8 TS%, .242 WS/48, 10.4 BPM, 18.2 VORP
Wade per 100 poss: 29/6/6 108 ORth, 103 DRtg, 22.7 PER, 55.4 TS%, .161 WS/48, 5.2 BPM, 8.9 VORP

[E-Balla]

Where is the myth coming from that Wade is a better playoff performer than LeBron?

LeBron per 100 poss: 40/10/7 116 ORtg, 101 DRtg, 27.7 PER, 57.8 TS%, .242 WS/48, 10.4 BPM, 18.2 VORP
Wade per 100 poss: 29/6/6 108 ORth, 103 DRtg, 22.7 PER, 55.4 TS%, .161 WS/48, 5.2 BPM, 8.9 VORP

That's a totally fair comparison. Include past prime Wade and don't adjust for defenses played against. Looking at their postseason careers against great defenses Wade is clearly better and better than anyone not named Michael Jordan (it's suuuper close) and Shaquille O'Neal.



EDIT: And if we're doing all time aside from Magic, West, Mikan, Jordan, Russell, and Shaq Wade is the best postseason performer ever to me.

[Greatness]

Where is the myth coming from that Wade is a better playoff performer than LeBron?

LeBron per 100 poss: 40/10/7 116 ORtg, 101 DRtg, 27.7 PER, 57.8 TS%, .242 WS/48, 10.4 BPM, 18.2 VORP
Wade per 100 poss: 29/6/6 108 ORth, 103 DRtg, 22.7 PER, 55.4 TS%, .161 WS/48, 5.2 BPM, 8.9 VORP

That's a totally fair comparison. Include past prime Wade and don't adjust for defenses played against. Looking at their postseason careers against great defenses Wade is clearly better and better than anyone not named Michael Jordan (it's suuuper close) and Shaquille O'Neal.



EDIT: And if we're doing all time aside from Magic, West, Mikan, Jordan, Russell, and Shaq Wade is the best postseason performer ever to me.

That's a totally fair comparison. Don't include Miami LeBron where he dominated elite defenses for 4 years.

[E-Balla]

Where is the myth coming from that Wade is a better playoff performer than LeBron?

LeBron per 100 poss: 40/10/7 116 ORtg, 101 DRtg, 27.7 PER, 57.8 TS%, .242 WS/48, 10.4 BPM, 18.2 VORP
Wade per 100 poss: 29/6/6 108 ORth, 103 DRtg, 22.7 PER, 55.4 TS%, .161 WS/48, 5.2 BPM, 8.9 VORP

That's a totally fair comparison. Include past prime Wade and don't adjust for defenses played against. Looking at their postseason careers against great defenses Wade is clearly better and better than anyone not named Michael Jordan (it's suuuper close) and Shaquille O'Neal.



EDIT: And if we're doing all time aside from Magic, West, Mikan, Jordan, Russell, and Shaq Wade is the best postseason performer ever to me.

That's a totally fair comparison. Don't include Miami LeBron where he dominated elite defenses for 4 years.

I just noticed I forgot Hakeem and possibly Duncan...

I didn't make the chart and I didn't post it to directly compare Lebron to Wade but to show how Wade's performance was consistent against elite teams and that he played elite defenses pretty often in the postseason which helps explain his lower numbers. If there was a chart with just Wadw in it I would've posted that.

[Sign5]

I'd lean towards Wade being better 04 but he was definitely better than LeBron in 05-07 up until he got injured. He was averaging 29 8 and 5 on 49% shooting in the 06-07 season before he got injured, no one in the league was averaging better numbers(Kobe was close). I'd give Wade 2011 but the rest and until they retire goes to LeBron.

So

Wade
Wade
Wade
Tie
LeBron
LeBron
LeBron
Wade
LeBron
LeBron
LeBron
..... LeBron

[Jaivl]

2004: Tie
2005: LeBron
2006: Wade
2007: Tie
2008-2014: LeBron

[Joao Saraiva]

Lebron was more dominated during the regular seasons (except 06 and 11) and Wade had a lot of better playoff runs.

"A lot of better playoff runs". Such as?

2007, 2008 (Wade did not participate), 2009, 2012, 2013, 2014 are all locks for LeBron.

2011 is up for discussion, from 2004 to 2006 it's obviously all Wade (LeBron's 1st POs were at 2006).

So from the palyoffs both played, LeBron is a lock in 5 out of 8. 2006 is no doubt Wade, 2010 is up for discussion and 2011 too.

So if by a lot you mean 3 or less, then ok.

06, 10, 11 are wade's years and 08, 09 and after 11 are lebron's. By a lot I meant a comparison to regular seasons which he only better at 2 out of 12 years

Is it so diferent having 2 better regular seasons than 3 playoffs? I don't think so.

[Justin67]

Its seems as if Wade got to a better start, but Lebron been more dominant

[mischievous]

The only year Wade was definitevly better was 06. Wade missed too many games in 07 to be better, 2011 is Lebron by a small margin. 04 and 05 can go either way i think.

[Massamba]

2004-2015

2004-LeBron
2005-LeBron
2006-Wade
2007-LeBron
2008-LeBron
2008 Olympics: by far Wade as the best player in the world
2009-LeBron/Wade
2010-LeBron
2011-LeBron/Wade
2012-LeBron
2013-LeBron
2014-LeBron
2015-LeBron

[XTC]

Wade was better from 04-06 and then I have Wade as the best player in the NBA in 2009.

[Trophy Husband]

Wade was better than Lebron at one point? I don't see it. There were some close years, but never better than Lebron.

[Jaivl]

Wade was better than Lebron at one point? I don't see it. There were some close years, but never better than Lebron.

He has a great case in their rookie years and 2006. Clearly worse than prime LeBron, though.

[RayBan-Sematra]

Reminder that Wade outplayed Lebron in 2/3 of their meetings this year.

He has a great case in their rookie years and 2006.

Has a good case for 2005 also I think based on his quite impressive pre-injury playoff run.

Clearly worse than prime LeBron, though.

Maybe 09-10 and 12-14 Lebron. Not sure I would easily take any other version of Bron over Prime Wade.
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Prime Wade was a really special player and honestly if I am facing a Detroit or Boston type team in the playoffs I would feel more comfortable with Wade then Lebron.

[Witzig-Okashi]

I buy Wade being better than LeBron during the first three seasons, Wade was in the the post-season each of his first three seasons, which should factor in with players having a better season. It's not as if LBJ was having a KG 2005 type of season that same year.

Postseason performances are also the reason(s) why I lean towards LeBron in 09 and Wade in 10. LeBron in the 2011 PS was actually pretty good up to the Finals (ironically like Dirk in 2006) and I think that year is debatable, too. 07 to 09 is clearly LeBron and every year since 11....

[theonlyclutch]

I buy Wade being better than LeBron during the first three seasons, Wade was in the the post-season each of his first three seasons, which should factor in with players having a better season. It's not as if LBJ was having a KG 2005 type of season that same year.

I wouldn't really use LBJ 05's lack of postseason appearance against him, they were more victims of luck than anything, being a ninth seed in the East, with an SRS that pointed them to being 6th, they had a better SRS than 3 playoff teams, their predicted record (43-39) puts them in line with the Celtics and Pacers, which were 3rd and 6th seeds respectively. It's just that almost universally, the east playoff teams at the time overachieved relative to their SRS, run that season another 10 times and its likely that the Cavs get in 7-8 times that season.