If OKC wins a title this year

BeatTheDubs · Post #1 » by **BeatTheDubs** » Wed May 25, 2016 6:28 pm

Where would Westbrook and Durant rank in terms of all time greats?

I would have to say Durant gets into the top 20 (15-20) and Westbrook around 20-30.

lukekarts · Post #2 » by **lukekarts** » Wed May 25, 2016 6:38 pm

Are Durant or Westbrook better than Wade? Wade seems to sit around 20 in most people's lists. I think by winning they both go close to that level. Prior to this season Durant has been the better of the two but this season I'm not so sure.

BeatTheDubs · Post #3 » by **BeatTheDubs** » Wed May 25, 2016 6:43 pm

I think Durant gets past Wade because of his MVP season and few scoring titles. Westbrook IMO would still be behind Wade.

mischievous · Post #4 » by **mischievous** » Wed May 25, 2016 7:53 pm

BeatTheDubs wrote:I think Durant gets past Wade because of his MVP season and few scoring titles. Westbrook IMO would still be behind Wade.

09 Wade is better than Kd's mvp season though...and scoring titles only mean so much. Wade would still be comfortably ahead of Kd imo. Better longevity, higher peak, and his 06 title run was better than what KD has done so far in the playoffs.

As for Westbrook, he still doesn't even crack the top 30. Not enough longevity or seasons at an all time level.

AceofSpades69 · Post #5 » by **AceofSpades69** » Wed May 25, 2016 8:09 pm

KD top 25-30. Westbrook top 40.

bigboi · Post #6 » by **bigboi** » Wed May 25, 2016 8:37 pm

Jeez, for all the stats that this board, you guys are really uneducated when it comes to basketball. Dudes are saying top 20 and 30, like are you serious? And I'm a fan of both players

SlowPaced · Post #7 » by **SlowPaced** » Wed May 25, 2016 8:51 pm

Neither of them have the longevity to crack Top 30. There's no way in hell KD would be ahead of Wade already if he won the title.

bbms · Post #8 » by **bbms** » Wed May 25, 2016 9:30 pm

SlowPaced wrote:Neither of them have the longevity to crack Top 30. There's no way in hell KD would be ahead of Wade already if he won the title.

KD was already 36th in the 2014 RealGM top 100.

Behind CP3, for instance.

With a title he's a surefire top 30.

SlowPaced · Post #9 » by **SlowPaced** » Wed May 25, 2016 9:32 pm

bbms wrote:
SlowPaced wrote:Neither of them have the longevity to crack Top 30. There's no way in hell KD would be ahead of Wade already if he won the title.

KD was already 36th in the 2014 RealGM top 100.

Behind CP3, for instance.

With a title he's a surefire top 30.

Maybe just barely. But he wouldn't surpass Wade already. No way.

bbms · Post #10 » by **bbms** » Wed May 25, 2016 9:33 pm

SlowPaced wrote:
bbms wrote:
SlowPaced wrote:Neither of them have the longevity to crack Top 30. There's no way in hell KD would be ahead of Wade already if he won the title.

KD was already 36th in the 2014 RealGM top 100.

Behind CP3, for instance.

With a title he's a surefire top 30.

Maybe just barely. But he wouldn't surpass Wade already. No way.

And1'd because I think that's agreeable and because your avatar kicks ass.

21. Bob Pettit
22. Patrick Ewing
23. Dwyane Wade
24. George Mikan
25. Steve Nash
26. John Stockton
27. Scottie Pippen
28. Walt Frazier
29. Rick Barry
30. John Havlicek

I find it hard he won't get a case over Stockton though.

BeatTheDubs · Post #11 » by **BeatTheDubs** » Wed May 25, 2016 9:36 pm

bigboi wrote:Jeez, for all the stats that this board, you guys are really uneducated when it comes to basketball. Dudes are saying top 20 and 30, like are you serious? And I'm a fan of both players

Well isn't Curry already listed as top 25??

Durant has been better for more seasons than Curry so why isn't Durant deserving of top 20? Please name me 18 better players than Durant career wise assuming he wins an NBA title this year. I don't think you can.

BeatTheDubs · Post #12 » by **BeatTheDubs** » Wed May 25, 2016 9:39 pm

bbms wrote:
SlowPaced wrote:
bbms wrote:
KD was already 36th in the 2014 RealGM top 100.

Behind CP3, for instance.

With a title he's a surefire top 30.

Maybe just barely. But he wouldn't surpass Wade already. No way.

And1'd because I think that's agreeable and because your avatar kicks ass.

21. Bob Pettit
22. Patrick Ewing
23. Dwyane Wade
24. George Mikan
25. Steve Nash
26. John Stockton
27. Scottie Pippen
28. Walt Frazier
29. Rick Barry
30. John Havlicek

I find it hard he won't get a case over Stockton though.

If Durant wins an NBA title, in addition to being an MVP how does he not pass Patrick Ewing?

bbms · Post #13 » by **bbms** » Wed May 25, 2016 9:42 pm

BeatTheDubs wrote:
bbms wrote:
SlowPaced wrote:
Maybe just barely. But he wouldn't surpass Wade already. No way.

And1'd because I think that's agreeable and because your avatar kicks ass.

21. Bob Pettit
22. Patrick Ewing
23. Dwyane Wade
24. George Mikan
25. Steve Nash
26. John Stockton
27. Scottie Pippen
28. Walt Frazier
29. Rick Barry
30. John Havlicek

I find it hard he won't get a case over Stockton though.

If Durant wins an NBA title, in addition to being an MVP how does he not pass Patrick Ewing?

In my opinion, yes. Ewing is overrated in this rankings here, imo, he already has a better carreer than Ewing.

Bulk numbers inflated due to high pace. Only one 25+ PER season.

bigboi · Post #14 » by **bigboi** » Wed May 25, 2016 10:17 pm

BeatTheDubs wrote:
bigboi wrote:Jeez, for all the stats that this board, you guys are really uneducated when it comes to basketball. Dudes are saying top 20 and 30, like are you serious? And I'm a fan of both players

Well isn't Curry already listed as top 25??

Durant has been better for more seasons than Curry so why isn't Durant deserving of top 20? Please name me 18 better players than Durant career wise assuming he wins an NBA title this year. I don't think you can.

Curry isn't top 25 either, this board is reactionary at best. How can you possibly put a guy in the top 25 when he's had only 2 elite seasons?

BeatTheDubs · Post #15 » by **BeatTheDubs** » Wed May 25, 2016 10:19 pm

bigboi wrote:
BeatTheDubs wrote:
bigboi wrote:Jeez, for all the stats that this board, you guys are really uneducated when it comes to basketball. Dudes are saying top 20 and 30, like are you serious? And I'm a fan of both players

Well isn't Curry already listed as top 25??

Durant has been better for more seasons than Curry so why isn't Durant deserving of top 20? Please name me 18 better players than Durant career wise assuming he wins an NBA title this year. I don't think you can.

Curry isn't top 25 either, this board is reactionary at best. How can you possibly put a guy in the top 25 when he's had only 2 elite seasons?

I think Curry was ranked 25 by ESPN

Dr Positivity · Post #16 » by **Dr Positivity** » Wed May 25, 2016 10:24 pm

Durant - 20s, Westbrook - top 40 ish. Westbrook is the big winner from last ATL as he had two MVP caliber seasons and I think he has a good chance of having a better career than Nash and Stockton

Winsome Gerbil · Post #17 » by **Winsome Gerbil** » Thu May 26, 2016 1:44 am

I think there is always fuzziness on these things about whether we are talking about where a player would suddenly rank if he just up and quit tomorrow and never returned, vs. where we now project he's going to finish up.

nikomCH · Post #18 » by **nikomCH** » Thu May 26, 2016 1:46 am

I actually feel like OKC making the Finals is the only reason LBJ is going to win his 3rd ring this year. Home court and has historically had success against Durant

KidPistol · Post #19 » by **KidPistol** » Thu May 26, 2016 3:48 am

I would have Durant ranked top 30 and Westbrook ranked top 50 - 60. If Westbrook wins the FMVP, top 40 - 30 ahead of Tracey McGrady but behind Stephen Curry and Kevin Durant (top 30 each)

BeatTheDubs · Post #20 » by **BeatTheDubs** » Thu May 26, 2016 5:01 pm

If OKC wins the finals and Westbrook wins MVP of the finals, how doesn't he get higher than CP3, Nash, and Stockton?