Pacers with 2014 Al Jefferson how well would they do?

[TheBomb81]

What would their record look like and how far would they go in the playoffs?

[tsherkin]

What is it that Al Jefferson is expected to change? He wouldn't improve their offense or defense...

[Amare_1_Knicks]

Though at times he'll give you the 'pretty' big man numbers, Big Al has perennially been a below average, inefficient scorer and a slow, unathletic, average at best defensive player. He hasn't ever had the talent around him that he's going to have this upcoming season(Teague, PG) so if his 2014 self were on this Pacers team he very well COULD be at least moderately more efficient offensively(Say, +1%TS relative to league average, as opposed to -2,3%).

Still, I don't think that he'd have any amazingly, positively impactful presence on the team. I think it'd be an interesting pairing with the team they already have in place, but certainly not anything top tier in terms of duos/trios, or general effective star power. They're probably a 52-ish win team, with conference final potential in the East(I mean, they're that anyway with 2017 Al Jefferson).

[SlowPaced]

'14 Al Jefferson was better than some guys here remember him as being.

He basically dragged his team to the Playoffs with his play in the 2nd half of the season that year. He'd definitely improve the Pacers offense.

[homecourtloss]

They'd probably be worse with him. Whom does he take minutes from? Pacers were the best defensive team that year. If Big Al plays minutes, I doubt that'd be the case.

So, they'd probably be worse or the same on offense and worse on defense with him.

[Colbinii]

He doesn't add spacing, which they need. He doesn't improve their defense, which they need. He doesn't really add that much with McMillan as a good offensive coach already.

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[RSCD3_]

He doesn't add spacing, which they need. He doesn't improve their defense, which they need. He doesn't really add that much with McMillan as a good offensive coach already.

47-35

If he was still a bench player, he would be an even better bench player than he probably will be for him now.

I cant see 2016 Al being better than 14 Al and if his minutes are changed that his impact is lessened that's just poor coaching on that front, in a vacuum 2014 Al >> 2016 Al.

[JordansBulls]

They would be better with him then they were with Hibbert for the playoffs that is for sure

[Colbinii]

He doesn't add spacing, which they need. He doesn't improve their defense, which they need. He doesn't really add that much with McMillan as a good offensive coach already.

47-35

If he was still a bench player, he would be an even better bench player than he probably will be for him now.

I cant see 2016 Al being better than 14 Al and if his minutes are changed that his impact is lessened that's just poor coaching on that front, in a vacuum 2014 Al >> 2016 Al.

Huh?

[RSCD3_]

He doesn't add spacing, which they need. He doesn't improve their defense, which they need. He doesn't really add that much with McMillan as a good offensive coach already.

47-35

If he was still a bench player, he would be an even better bench player than he probably will be for him now.

I cant see 2016 Al being better than 14 Al and if his minutes are changed that his impact is lessened that's just poor coaching on that front, in a vacuum 2014 Al >> 2016 Al.

Huh?

The way you were talking implied the pacers would start him and get worse while many see him as an alright guy to help the bench, im saying it wouldnt be his fault if his role changed to something that lessened his impact because his coach didnt use him right

Like if 2014 al jefferson makes the pacers worse as a starting C, and 16 al jeff makes them better as a bench guy, then 14 al jeff would be an even better addition than 14 al jeff if used in the same way

[SlowPaced]

They would be better with him then they were with Hibbert for the playoffs that is for sure

Yep. Hibbert's D was valuable so Al Jeff would come off the bench as a sixth man, but he would absolutely take a dump on us in stretches. We made Hibbert look like Hakeem in 2013 but he was just all around terrible in the 2014 Playoffs.

The question is for current day Pacers though.

[Quotatious]

2014 Jefferson would absolutely be a positive factor for the Pacers, he was a very good player in 2014. However, it could slow down Myles Turner's development, by taking a lot of minutes away from him, so I don't really like that move.

[Colbinii]

If he was still a bench player, he would be an even better bench player than he probably will be for him now.

I cant see 2016 Al being better than 14 Al and if his minutes are changed that his impact is lessened that's just poor coaching on that front, in a vacuum 2014 Al >> 2016 Al.

Huh?

The way you were talking implied the pacers would start him and get worse while many see him as an alright guy to help the bench, im saying it wouldnt be his fault if his role changed to something that lessened his impact because his coach didnt use him right

Like if 2014 al jefferson makes the pacers worse as a starting C, and 16 al jeff makes them better as a bench guy, then 14 al jeff would be an even better addition than 14 al jeff if used in the same way

Hmm...I wasn't trying to imply he was starting or coming off the bench. I was just saying I don't think he really helps the team in any meaningful way. I don't see him adding more than 2-3 wins to the team. I really like this Pacers team come April, but before that they will have a similar win total as last year.

[Ballerhogger]

They could win about 48 -50 games with him.