Last time an NBA team had a frontcourt duo as good as Cousins/Davis?

90sgoat · Post #1 » by **90sgoat** » Mon Feb 20, 2017 11:44 am

I'm no fan of Cousins, don't think much of him among the great centers, but of course he is better than decent, definitely good, I don't think great. Davis is a great talent.

D-Rob and Duncan, better than those two I think in 1999.

Who else?

It is going to be very interesting what a team with two high quality bigs look like faced against the current pace and space. Should be able to dominate on the boards on offense and defense. Imagine having to box out Davis only to have Cousins still on the loose or the reverse, that's going to be tough.

RightToCensor · Post #2 » by **RightToCensor** » Mon Feb 20, 2017 11:57 am

Rasheed Wallace and Ben Wallace is the best big-man duo I can think of off the top of my head since 99 that doesn't include Timmy and David. I'd say Webber and Divac are behind the Wallace duo, and behind them would be Pau Gasol and Lamar Odom/Andrew Bynum.

BasketballFan7 · Post #3 » by **BasketballFan7** » Mon Feb 20, 2017 12:05 pm

This is miles ahead of anything since TD/Duncan, and their primes did not coincide. It can be the GOAT if everything breaks their way.

90sgoat · Post #4 » by **90sgoat** » Mon Feb 20, 2017 12:10 pm

RightToCensor wrote:Rasheed Wallace and Ben Wallace is the best big-man duo I can think of off the top of my head since 99 that doesn't include Timmy and David. I'd say Webber and Divac are behind the Wallace duo, and behind them would be Pau Gasol and Lamar Odom/Andrew Bynum.

Gasol/Bynum was actually very effective in spurts, very effective.

Webber/Divac I forgot about, those two were great too.

Wallace/Wallace is not my favorite.

I will say this, there's no excuse for Cousins now, he **** this up and it's on him. I also say, if we are still going to see Pels guards running high pick and rolls and drive and kick, then someone on the coaching team needs to be fired.

90sgoat · Post #5 » by **90sgoat** » Mon Feb 20, 2017 12:11 pm

BasketballFan7 wrote:This is miles ahead of anything since TD/Duncan, and their primes did not coincide. It can be the GOAT if everything breaks their way.

I am very cautious about Cousins' mental state.

BasketballFan7 · Post #6 » by **BasketballFan7** » Mon Feb 20, 2017 12:14 pm

90sgoat wrote:
BasketballFan7 wrote:This is miles ahead of anything since TD/Duncan, and their primes did not coincide. It can be the GOAT if everything breaks their way.

I am very cautious about Cousins' mental state.

Your mental state would be precarious if you played in Sacramento your entire career, too.

eminence · Post #7 » by **eminence** » Mon Feb 20, 2017 12:16 pm

It's a great looking combo, and it could turn out great (Davis should be able to focus more on defense and become a real DPOY contender to maximize their abilities). But we have seen some great combos even since Duncan/Robinson - Chandler/Dirk, Wallace/Wallace, Bosh/Lebron, Shaq dining alone, etc. Will be interesting to see how they mesh.

Jim Naismith · Post #8 » by **Jim Naismith** » Mon Feb 20, 2017 1:20 pm

Before the Pelican's Davis and Cousins, have the NBA's top-2 big men ever been teammates?

The pair must be the two best players among all the centers and power forwards for a given season. Thus 2004 Shaq/Malone doesn't count.

Post #9 » by **penbeast0** » Mon Feb 20, 2017 2:18 pm

And it will be interesting to see if the Pels can retain Cousins.

mhd · Post #10 » by **mhd** » Mon Feb 20, 2017 2:20 pm

Dirk/Chandler??

Sure, Tyson was just a finisher on offense, but he was a game changer on defense and a legit DPOY player. Dirk was insane during the playoffs.

Blackfyre · Post #11 » by **Blackfyre** » Mon Feb 20, 2017 2:24 pm

Nope. '99 Spurs is the closest but Robinson had no argument over O'neal and Alonzo was also considered better that year. Malone was the MVP in '99 but I think after PS Duncan is comfortably ahead of him.

eminence · Post #12 » by **eminence** » Mon Feb 20, 2017 2:28 pm

Nope, don't think it's ever happened, and still hasn't for that matter.

Blackfyre · Post #13 » by **Blackfyre** » Mon Feb 20, 2017 2:30 pm

eminence wrote:Nope, don't think it's ever happened, and still hasn't for that matter.

Who do you have over either Davis or Cousins at their position ?

Saints14 · Post #14 » by **Saints14** » Mon Feb 20, 2017 2:39 pm

I'm sure you're talking about big men tandems, but if you consider KD and LeBron to be "frontcourt" players then I'd put the Warriors (KD/Draymond) and Cavs (LeBron/Love) over NOP.

But yeah, as far as big man tandems go, this has the potential to be the best in a long time. Both players are not only extremely talented but so skilled - can space the floor and do a bit of playmaking - that they should fit very well together and potentially be a potent counter to smallball lineups.

eminence · Post #15 » by **eminence** » Mon Feb 20, 2017 2:40 pm

Blackfyre wrote:
eminence wrote:Nope, don't think it's ever happened, and still hasn't for that matter.

Who do you have over either Davis or Cousins at their position ?

The best big in the NBA hails from Saginaw, MI.

Gobert has a decent argument as well. (Shoutout to Jokic/Millsap/Gasol for at least being in the conversation)

HeartBreakKid · Post #16 » by **HeartBreakKid** » Mon Feb 20, 2017 2:50 pm

eminence wrote:
Blackfyre wrote:
eminence wrote:Nope, don't think it's ever happened, and still hasn't for that matter.

Who do you have over either Davis or Cousins at their position ?

The best big in the NBA hails from Saginaw, MI.

Gobert has a decent argument as well. (Shoutout to Jokic/Millsap/Gasol for at least being in the conversation)

Who?

Blackfyre · Post #17 » by **Blackfyre** » Mon Feb 20, 2017 3:01 pm

HeartBreakKid wrote:
eminence wrote:
Blackfyre wrote:Who do you have over either Davis or Cousins at their position ?

The best big in the NBA hails from Saginaw, MI.

Gobert has a decent argument as well. (Shoutout to Jokic/Millsap/Gasol for at least being in the conversation)

Who?

Draymond Green.

SlowPaced · Post #18 » by **SlowPaced** » Mon Feb 20, 2017 3:08 pm

penbeast0 wrote:And it will be interesting to see if the Pels can retain Cousins.

I doubt they have any issues doing it. Cousins is sick of losing and that dude is loyal like a dog. For how much his character seems to get discussed, his loyalty gets really overlooked. Kings have been a dumpsterfire for years, they did nothing but make wrong choices during Cousins era and the dude was still going on about how much he loved Sacto and wanted to retire there.

NYKnickerbocker · Post #19 » by **NYKnickerbocker** » Mon Feb 20, 2017 3:08 pm

Blackfyre wrote:
HeartBreakKid wrote:
eminence wrote:
The best big in the NBA hails from Saginaw, MI.

Gobert has a decent argument as well. (Shoutout to Jokic/Millsap/Gasol for at least being in the conversation)

Who?

Draymond Green.

RCM88x · Post #20 » by **RCM88x** » Mon Feb 20, 2017 3:40 pm

The Lebron and Love duo is arguably better, and that is just this season. LeBron and Bosh, Durant and Ibaka, Dirk and Chandler, Durant and Green, are also recent duos that could be put in that conversation.

In terms of whole frontcourt, the Lebron, Love, Mosgov and Lebron, Love, TT is better than this current Pelicans team, though probably not a good matchup against this duo.

I honestly don't know how well this will work out, only time will tell if its actually able to produce wins and not just highlights and stats.