The Lebron Thread (2016 - 17 Pt. 4)

ppedro123 · Post #1461 » by **ppedro123** » Wed Jun 21, 2017 3:31 pm

Is there a way the Cavs get Millsap without giving up much?

RCM88x · Post #1462 » by **RCM88x** » Wed Jun 21, 2017 3:59 pm

ppedro123 wrote:Is there a way the Cavs get Millsap without giving up much?

He's a FA who will likely get the max... so no. They'd have to lose multiple guys and then some... which I don't think they'd want to do.

OnlyOneWay2Play · Post #1463 » by **OnlyOneWay2Play** » Wed Jun 21, 2017 4:13 pm

RCM88x wrote:
ppedro123 wrote:Is there a way the Cavs get Millsap without giving up much?

He's a FA who will likely get the max... so no. They'd have to lose multiple guys and then some... which I don't think they'd want to do.

Furthermore, the Cavs literally are forbidden from doing a sign-and-trade because they are over the "apron" (essentially too far above the tax line).

The time to have traded for Milsap was at the deadline, which I advocated on this very thread. Love-for-Milsap then was a perfect match salary-wise and would have made the Cavs a MUCH better matchup against GSW, since Milsap could guard Green, Zaza, or even Durant some (unlike Love). And Love was mostly terrible on offense too.

But of course, because the Cavs won in 2016 - DESPITE, not because of, Love - they stuck with the stupid "if it ain't broke, don't fix it" theory, even though GSW were much improved with Durant and the Cavs needed to try to upgrade as well.

LikeABosh · Post #1464 » by **LikeABosh** » Wed Jun 21, 2017 5:22 pm

therealbig3 wrote:I mean, Billups is the most likely replacement as GM, and he's openly stated that the Cavs should trade Love for Melo, so...

Striking out on both Butler and George, and ending up with a Kyrie-LeBron-Melo trio is literally the worst thing imaginable. They get worse on both sides of the ball.

Love for Melo straightup is not a fair deal. Knicks would have to give up more

They only get worse on offense if Melo proves he can't be unselfish. Otherwise, Melo at the 4 is even more of a mismatch than Love and I don't see Melo getting bullied by Klay and Durant like Love did

Heej · Post #1465 » by **Heej** » Wed Jun 21, 2017 5:49 pm

LikeABosh wrote:
therealbig3 wrote:I mean, Billups is the most likely replacement as GM, and he's openly stated that the Cavs should trade Love for Melo, so...

Striking out on both Butler and George, and ending up with a Kyrie-LeBron-Melo trio is literally the worst thing imaginable. They get worse on both sides of the ball.

Love for Melo straightup is not a fair deal. Knicks would have to give up more

They only get worse on offense if Melo proves he can't be unselfish. Otherwise, Melo at the 4 is even more of a mismatch than Love and I don't see Melo getting bullied by Klay and Durant like Love did

I know I'm beating the same drum here but a lineup of Kyrie JR Lebron Melo Love has a punchers chance. Let's stop talking about Melo for Love because that trade isn't happening anymore like it would've last year. This year the Knicks will be happy with TT and a scrub prospect like Cedi or Felder

Olympic Melo is coming to the Cavs

RCM88x · Post #1466 » by **RCM88x** » Thu Jun 22, 2017 1:00 am

Langston Galloway might be a good off the bench PG for the Cavs now that he's opped out. Not sure if they'll be able to afford him if he looks for money over team quality.

RSCD3_ · Post #1467 » by **RSCD3_** » Thu Jun 22, 2017 12:30 pm

RCM88x wrote:Langston Galloway might be a good off the bench PG for the Cavs now that he's opped out. Not sure if they'll be able to afford him if he looks for money over team quality.

He's pretty young he's probably chasing the moolah

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OnlyOneWay2Play · Post #1468 » by **OnlyOneWay2Play** » Thu Jun 22, 2017 11:24 pm

Well, if the Cavs do this (presumably something like Love + Shump for Aldridge + Green), then LeBron is definitely gone next year...

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MisterHibachi · Post #1469 » by **MisterHibachi** » Thu Jun 22, 2017 11:28 pm

This is the only franchise that would trade Love for LMA. What a disaster.

colts18 · Post #1470 » by **colts18** » Thu Jun 22, 2017 11:40 pm

How did LaMarcus look against GSW? Offensively? Defensively?

OnlyOneWay2Play · Post #1471 » by **OnlyOneWay2Play** » Thu Jun 22, 2017 11:45 pm

This gives me some hope...

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Maybe:

Spurs get: Love

Suns get: Aldridge

Cavs get: Green + picks from PHX

???

OnlyOneWay2Play · Post #1472 » by **OnlyOneWay2Play** » Thu Jun 22, 2017 11:46 pm

Meanwhile:

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Awesome for the Wolves. KAT + Jimmy + Wiggins + Thibs could beat the Warriors in a couple years!

MisterHibachi · Post #1473 » by **MisterHibachi** » Thu Jun 22, 2017 11:46 pm

What would the Cavs do with picks?

I can't believe the Bulls didn't like the 4th pick package from the Suns in a three-way trade better than the Wolves' offer. So much for Butler staying for the supermax.

RCM88x · Post #1474 » by **RCM88x** » Thu Jun 22, 2017 11:47 pm

OnlyOneWay2Play wrote:Meanwhile:

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Awesome for the Wolves. KAT + Jimmy + Wiggins + Thibs could beat the Warriors in a couple years!

Not likely unless KAT turns into Hakeem defensively and Wiggins actually starts to be an impactful player on offense and defense.

therealbig3 · Post #1475 » by **therealbig3** » Thu Jun 22, 2017 11:54 pm

Essentially trading Love for Green would be awful. Trading Love for LMA would be awful.

Meanwhile, that's great news for the Wolves.

OnlyOneWay2Play · Post #1476 » by **OnlyOneWay2Play** » Thu Jun 22, 2017 11:56 pm

Oh no:

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Colbinii · Post #1477 » by **Colbinii** » Fri Jun 23, 2017 12:22 am

Well, thank god my Wolves got Butler.

As is, LeBron will be staying in the East another year. No way he comes to the West to face the "LeBron Stopper" in Lebron James.

Dupp · Post #1478 » by **Dupp** » Fri Jun 23, 2017 12:28 am

Bulls are such a trash front office.

Lma is the worst fit with Lebron. He thinks he don't like it in San Antonio he'll hate it with us.

RSCD3_ · Post #1479 » by **RSCD3_** » Fri Jun 23, 2017 1:23 am

MisterHibachi wrote:What would the Cavs do with picks?

I can't believe the Bulls didn't like the 4th pick package from the Suns in a three-way trade better than the Wolves' offer. So much for Butler staying for the supermax.

If Lavine recovers I like him more than the 4th, plus him missing could be a boon to their pick.

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Heej · Post #1480 » by **Heej** » Fri Jun 23, 2017 1:23 am

If Cavs get green and the Suns pick maybe they can trade Jackson to Knicks for Melo+Ntilikina so they shore up a backup PG. Turning Love into Green, Melo, French Frank. Great defensive lineup potential with Frank, Swish, Green, Bron, TT. Dunno this still doesn't make sense lol.