who are the best players in the league (top 20)

[VCarter15]

I didn't watch much of the Spurs vs. Hornets series, but wasn't Tim Duncan getting double-teamed for most of the time? Since they were attempting to run the offense through him most of the time, wouldn't that make him the number 1 option?

[goat:manu]

I didn't watch much of the Spurs vs. Hornets series, but wasn't Tim Duncan getting double-teamed for most of the time? Since they were attempting to run the offense through him most of the time, wouldn't that make him the number 1 option?

so please.....

anyway, i like VC, he's the best dunker of all time!! bro

[BiggieSmalls]

true that, everyone seems to have a man crush on KG, he is highly overrated.

1a.Kobe Bryant
1b.Tim Duncan
2.Lebron James
3.Chris Paul
4.Dwight Howard
5.Amare Stoudemire
6.Deron Williams
7.Chauncey Billups
8.Dirk Nowitzki
9.Kevin Garnett
10.Tracy McGrady
11.Brandon Roy
12.Baron Davis
13.Allen Iverson
14.Yao Ming
15.Chris Bosh
16.Caron Butler
17.Dwyane Wade
18.Manu Ginobili
19.Robert Horry!

[BiggieSmalls]

I laugh in the face of people who think KG is a top 5 player in this league. he is not in the same class as the top 4(Kobe,CP3,Lebron,Duncan), not even close, these guys have already proven to be the leaders of there teams and knows what it takes to make there teammates better and are proven winners with the exception of paul but u can watch him and tell he is going to have a very successful career.

[GJense4181]

^Ok...there's the top 4. Who is the fifth?

[WadeKnicks2010]

1. manu: no one in the nba had same achievement as him
2. dirk: the best pf of the last decade and he's still the number one of the league (his stats vs HORNET is > duncan's so he's better than duncan)
3. CP
4. kobe (he will be number 1 if he win title this year)
5. lebron
6. .....

Whose list is worse, this guys or the OPs?

[ToffKobe]

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Whose list is worse, this guys or the OPs?

Probably the guy you quoted lol.

If he took out Manu and Dirk as 1 and 2 and moved the other 3 slots up it wouldn`t be so controversial and off base.

EDIT: Actually nevermind, I almost forgot that the OP has Parker listed as number 1.

[TheKingOfVa360]

1.Kobe
2.Tim Duncan
3.KG
4.Chris Paul
5.Lebron
6.Dirk
7.Dwight Howard
8.Gilbert Arenas
9.Wade
10. Amare
11.Yao Ming
12. Boozer
13.Melo'
15. Steve Nash
16. T-Mac
17. Billups
18. Baron Davis
19. Manu
20. Chris Bosh

[goat:manu]

I laugh in the face of people who think KG is a top 5 player in this league. he is not in the same class as the top 4(Kobe,CP3,Lebron,Duncan), not even close, these guys have already proven to be the leaders of there teams and knows what it takes to make there teammates better and are proven winners with the exception of paul but u can watch him and tell he is going to have a very successful career.

same reaction i got when i read your post...

[The_Believer]

West is becoming overrated due to one good game. He doesn't belong near these lists. Neither does Roy until he proves he can live up to his "intangibles." JJ, however, cracks mine (or just misses out) because of the way he destroyed elite teams the 2nd half of the year and vs. the Cs. Brand should be on these lists, as should Baron. These two-way leaders belong higher than one-way "stars" like Arenas or Melo who can't beat weak East teams in the POs(Arenas) or get swept (Melo).

[TEAIM]

1. Kobe
2. LeBron
(Wade also in the mix but he has to prove himself again.)

Rest aren't in the class of these 3. But here they are anyway.

3. Duncan but he's slipping, gets my vote for now cause the Spurs are still winning.

4. Deron Williams. A lot better than Chris Paul. Way more skilled.

5. Amare- Has to play both ends if he wants to be mentioned with Kobe and LeBron. Offensively a BEAST!!

6. Manu- Could average 30 if he didn't sacrifice so much for the team.

7. Parker- If he's making the mid range J u can't guard him.

8. Paul- Great decision maker but needs to work on his jumper, cause everything he gets is wide open. He should knock a lot more down. Also I think the system plays a huge part in his success.

9. KG- But still has to prove himself in the next month.

10. D.Howard- Still has heaps to improve on, still just scratching the surface. He'll be in the LeBron, Kobe class in 2 or 3 years.

The rest are on even par- Nash, Dirk, AI, Melo, Bosh, T-Mac, Yao, Gil (When healthy), Billups, Baron, Gasol, JJ. But really from Kobe and LeBron down it's too close to call who

[KyleCleric]

1. Tim Duncan
2. Kevin Garnett
3. Kobe Bryant
4. Lebron James
5. Deron Williams
6. Chris Paul
7. Dwight Howard
8. Amare Stoudamire
9. Yao Ming
10. Paul Pierce
11. Chris Bosh
12. Dirk Nowitzki
13. Dwayne Wade
14. Pau Gasol
15. Tracy McGrady
16. Carmelo Anthony
17. Chauncey Billups
18. Baron Davis
19. Tony Parker
20. Joe Johnson
21. Steve Nash
22. Manu Ginobili
23. Gilbert Arenas
24. Allen Iverson
25. Caron Butler
26. Carlos Boozer
27. Al Jefferson
28. Marcus Camby
29. Ray Allen
30. David West

[goat:manu]

1. Kobe
2. LeBron
(Wade also in the mix but he has to prove himself again.)

Rest aren't in the class of these 3. But here they are anyway.

3. Duncan but he's slipping, gets my vote for now cause the Spurs are still winning.

4. Deron Williams. A lot better than Chris Paul. Way more skilled.

5. Amare- Has to play both ends if he wants to be mentioned with Kobe and LeBron. Offensively a BEAST!!

6. Manu- Could average 30 if he didn't sacrifice so much for the team.

7. Parker- If he's making the mid range J u can't guard him.

8. Paul- Great decision maker but needs to work on his jumper, cause everything he gets is wide open. He should knock a lot more down. Also I think the system plays a huge part in his success.

9. KG- But still has to prove himself in the next month.

10. D.Howard- Still has heaps to improve on, still just scratching the surface. He'll be in the LeBron, Kobe class in 2 or 3 years.

The rest are on even par- Nash, Dirk, AI, Melo, Bosh, T-Mac, Yao, Gil (When healthy), Billups, Baron, Gasol, JJ. But really from Kobe and LeBron down it's too close to call who

[TheKingOfVa360]

West is becoming overrated due to one good game. He doesn't belong near these lists. Neither does Roy until he proves he can live up to his "intangibles." JJ, however, cracks mine (or just misses out) because of the way he destroyed elite teams the 2nd half of the year and vs. the Cs. Brand should be on these lists, as should Baron. These two-way leaders belong higher than one-way "stars" like Arenas or Melo who can't beat weak East teams in the POs(Arenas) or get swept (Melo).

It's funny that you knock Arenas and Melo yet Brand has only been to the playoffs once his whole career. Arenas wasn't healthy the last 2 years so not sure how you can knock him for that, because he has been out of the second round on a team with Jared Jefferies and Kwame Brown starting. Two guys who can't crack the rotation on the Knicks and Grizzlies now.

'Melo has went up agaisnt teams like the Spurs twice and the Lakers. Teams that the Nuggets shouldn't have beat anyways.

[Biff]

1. Lebron
2. Kobe
3. Paul
4. Duncan
5. Howard
6. Deron
7. Dirk
8. Wade
9. Garnett
10. Nash
11. Amare
12. Manu
13. Yao
14. Tmac
15. Parker
16. Billups
17. Rasheed
18. Baron
19. Gasol
20. Pierce

This list would probably change every time I made it. This is just how I feel at this exact moment.

[BringYoAGame]

1. Kobe Bryant
2. Tim Duncan
3. LeBron James
4. Chris Paul
5. Kevin Garnett
6. Dwight Howard
7. Dirk Nowitzki
8. Deron Williams
9. Amare Stoudemire
10. Manu Ginobili
11. Yao Ming
12. Baron Davis
13. Chris Bosh
14. Dwyane Wade
15. Chauncey Billups
16. Allen Iverson
17. Steve Nash
18. Tracy McGrady
19. Antawn Jamison
20. Paul Pierce

(Rough List)

[HammerDunk]

1) Chris Paul
2) Amare Stoudemire
3) Kobe Bryant
4) Shawn Marion
5) Marcus Camby
6) Caron Butler
7) Kevin Garnett
Lebron James
9) Dirk Nowitzki
10) Allen Iverson
11) Baron Davis
12) Yao Ming
13) Chris Bosh
14) Chauncey Billups
15) Manu Ginobili
16) Danny Granger
17) Jason Richardson
18) Rashard Lewis
19) Pau Gasol
20) Kevin Martin

Yahoo rankings.

This list is terrible!

[yiskobesogood]

Wow. Are you being for real in that top 20? I mean based upon your conclusions, Shaq, Robert Horry should be in your top ten.

If I were to rank my top players list. I would do so, by looking at the players right now. Previous accomplishments, really shouldnt mean much as it is the top list right now. These players should be leaders, play both sides of the ball well, and be role models/players.

1.Kobe Bryant
2.Lebron James
3.Chris Paul
4.Dwight Howard
5.Tim Duncan

[GJense4181]

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This list is terrible!

You read the whole post?

[The_Believer]

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It's funny that you knock Arenas and Melo yet Brand has only been to the playoffs once his whole career. Arenas wasn't healthy the last 2 years so not sure how you can knock him for that, because he has been out of the second round on a team with Jared Jefferies and Kwame Brown starting. Two guys who can't crack the rotation on the Knicks and Grizzlies now.

'Melo has went up agaisnt teams like the Spurs twice and the Lakers. Teams that the Nuggets shouldn't have beat anyways.

Brand has won a series, and almost beat one of the best non-ship teams this decade. Arenas can't win PO games/series in a weak East, which is pathetic regardless of his health. As for Melo, he's 0-5 in series, and I don't see that changing any time soon. Him and Gil really need to step up their game asides from scoring to be considered as superstars.