Atlanta Hawks Official Trade Ideas Thread

[Fischella]

Josh Smith for Washington's #3 pick

We get to draft Drummond or MKD and Washington gets another valuable piece next to Nene and Wall, Washington has enough young pieces and Smoove next to Wall would be nasty, also I think Smith would resign with Washington if all goes well as he'll be playing on a team who has potential and who wants to win

I'd do something like,

Lewis+Singleton+pick3 for Johnson+Smith+pick23

[saloonyk8]

We are not getting a top 4 pick in one of best drafts in years for rfa jsmith...absurd

[saloonyk8]

Looking at lotta, kings at 5, blazers at 6, and raptors at 8 probably wiling to deal. Jsmith doesnt make ense on blazers. I bet we could get 8th pick, sullinger or zeller most likely...

Thoughts...
Jsmith for tyreke Evans (no picks)
Johnson for pau gasol

Makes a lot of sense to me, lemme know what you all think. I really feel evans available for smith.

[saloonyk8]

Looking at lotta, kings at 5, blazers at 6, and raptors at 8 probably wiling to deal. Jsmith doesnt make ense on blazers. I bet we could get 8th pick, sullinger or zeller most likely...

Thoughts...
Jsmith for tyreke Evans (no picks)
Johnson for pau gasol

Makes a lot of sense to me, lemme know what you all think. I really feel evans available for smith.

[Superiorblogman]

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachi ... Id=7l2673w

Hawks get:

Kevin Martin
Samuel Dalembert
Josh McRoberts
Steve Blake

Lakers get:

Joe Johnson
Josh Smith

Rockets get:

Pau Gasol

Hawks would be at $55 million with 8 players under contract which is huge improvement over $60 million with 6 under contract. After the 2 draft picks they would be at about $57 million with 10 under contract. So we could use the mid-level exception on a quality player. Then add to reserves.

Teague/Steve Blake/Draft(PG)2nd rd Machado or Tu Holloway
Kevin Martin/Willie Green
Marvin/Draft(SF)1stRd
Al/Ivan/McRoberts
Dalembert/Zaza/Mahinimi,Kaman,Kwame,Asik, Spencer Hawes, or Jordan Hill for the mid-level exception

Way under luxury tax we would be at about $65 million with a solid team that could get the 7th or 8th seed in the east.

The following year we would be at 23.5 million with 3 players under contract that means we could get Dwight and bring Josh back.

[myrak433]

I really believe we should move Horford for a center and keep Smith. because I feel we could get back a better player with Horford even though Smith effects the game more than Horford does. on both ends. but i see the Hawks fans are split about 50/50 on which one we should move. I have posted Smith trade Ideas and Horford trade ideas.... way more Horford however. so here is a Josh trade lets see what you all think

Washington out: 2012 1st round pick 3rd over all
in: 2012 1st round picks 5th and 23rd over all.

Sacramento out: 5th over all pick, Tyreke Evans, and Salmons
in: Josh Smith
Atlanta out: Josh Smith and 23 overall pick
in: Tyreke Evans, Salmons, and 3rd over all pick 2012 draft

Washington gets two firsts in a good draft by only moving down two. they already have a nice little core with John Wall, Nene with the 5th pick they get MKD, Harrison Barnes, or Beal one of them will be there and with the 23rd pick they take BPA Terrence Jones or Andrw Nicholson hopefully one of them will be there or take Fab Melo. and with their 2nd round pick they could get a guy like Tony Wroten( which I believe is a first round talent) if you dont get Beal. this would allow them to push Jordan Crawford to the bench in a six man roll
if you get Beal then take another big with that 2nd round pick maybe Drew Gordon .

Wall/ Crawford
Beal/ Crawford
Singleton/ Lewis
Nene or Blacthe
Seraphin or Nene/ Fab Melo
I was trying to include Blatche in the trade moving him to Atlanta but dam that contract is ugly. maybe if the wiz took back Marvin Williams.

Sacto gets Josh Smith to run with Cousins and Thompson... I feel that would be some serious intimidation in the paint on the defensive end. they are also getting rid of the horrendous contract of Salmons.

Isaiah/ Fredette
Marcus Thornton
Smith / Outlaw
Thompson/ Hayes
Cousins/ Hayes

Atlanta gets a running mate for JJ since I know their is no way in Hell they will be able to move that contract. JJ could be the number two option or even if he is the number one the Hawks would have a legitmate 2nd option. plus they get a pretty savvy scorer coming off the bench in Salmons. Not to mention with the 3rd pick over all they should be able to land Drummond.

Teague/ Pargo
Evans/ Salmons
JJ/ Salmons
Horford/Ivan
Drummond/ Zaza

[myrak433]

I really believe we should move Horford for a center and keep Smith. because I feel we could get back a better player with Horford even though Smith effects the game more than Horford does. on both ends. but i see the Hawks fans are split about 50/50 on which one we should move. I have posted Smith trade Ideas and Horford trade ideas.... way more Horford however. so here is a Josh trade lets see what you all think

Washington out: 2012 1st round pick 3rd over all
in: 2012 1st round picks 5th and 23rd over all.

Sacramento out: 5th over all pick, Tyreke Evans, and Salmons
in: Josh Smith
Atlanta out: Josh Smith and 23 overall pick
in: Tyreke Evans, Salmons, and 3rd over all pick 2012 draft

Washington gets two firsts in a good draft by only moving down two. they already have a nice little core with John Wall, Nene with the 5th pick they get MKD, Harrison Barnes, or Beal one of them will be there and with the 23rd pick they take BPA Terrence Jones or Andrw Nicholson hopefully one of them will be there or take Fab Melo. and with their 2nd round pick they could get a guy like Tony Wroten( which I believe is a first round talent) if you dont get Beal. this would allow them to push Jordan Crawford to the bench in a six man roll
if you get Beal then take another big with that 2nd round pick maybe Drew Gordon .

Wall/ Crawford
Beal/ Crawford
Singleton/ Lewis
Nene or Blacthe
Seraphin or Nene/ Fab Melo
I was trying to include Blatche in the trade moving him to Atlanta but dam that contract is ugly. maybe if the wiz took back Marvin Williams.

Sacto gets Josh Smith to run with Cousins and Thompson... I feel that would be some serious intimidation in the paint on the defensive end. they are also getting rid of the horrendous contract of Salmons.

Isaiah/ Fredette
Marcus Thornton
Smith / Outlaw
Thompson/ Hayes
Cousins/ Hayes

Atlanta gets a running mate for JJ since I know their is no way in Hell they will be able to move that contract. JJ could be the number two option or even if he is the number one the Hawks would have a legitmate 2nd option. plus they get a pretty savvy scorer coming off the bench in Salmons. Not to mention with the 3rd pick over all they should be able to land Drummond.

Teague/ Pargo
Evans/ Salmons
JJ/ Salmons
Horford/Ivan
Drummond/ Zaza

[Superiorblogman]

NO open to trading #10 if you take Okafor or Ariza.

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachi ... Id=6neuodw

NO gets

Josh Smith and Zaza

ATL gets

Okafor, Jason Smith, and #10 overall

Teague/
Joe/Willie/
Marvin/
Al/Ivan/Jason Smith
Okafor/

Only do this trade if Jeremy Lamb,Harrison Barnes, MKG or Drummond is available with #10

[myrak433]

NO open to trading #10 if you take Okafor or Ariza.

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachi ... Id=6neuodw

NO gets

Josh Smith and Zaza

ATL gets

Okafor, Jason Smith, and #10 overall

Teague/
Joe/Willie/
Marvin/
Al/Ivan/Jason Smith
Okafor/

Only do this trade if Jeremy Lamb,Harrison Barnes, MKG or Drummond is available with #10

I doubt very seriously that either one of those will be there at 10.... the only guys I would want in this draft to replace Smoove would be Barnes, Drummond, Lamb or maybe Perry Jones. Perry Jones should be there at 10. would love to have Drummond or Barnes though.... in that order.

but we could draft Perry Jones at ten and maybe Melo at 23. I would love to get a few undrafted rookies (seniors) to be invited to camp.... the one I am most like is Kyle O'Quinn out of Norfolk State.

[FCNATL85]

Something a bit crazy nvolving ATL/ CHA/ DET and UTA

UTA
incoming:
Marvin, T. Thomas and Zaza
outgoing:
Jefferson to DET, Raja Bell and #47 to CHA

DET:
incoming:
Jefferson from UTA + CHA #2
outgoing:
Monroe, Gordon and #9 to ATL

CHA:
incoming:
Joe Johnson, ATL #43, UTA #47 and Raja Bell
outgoing:
Magette to ATL, T. Thomas to UTA, #2 to DET

ATL:[b]
incoming:
Gordon. Monroe, #9 from DET
outgoing:
JJ and #43 to CHA, Marvin and Zaza to UTA

ATL turns around and signs and trades Hinrich (needed as Nash departs) and #23 and future second for Warrick and #13.
Trades J. Smith to GS for #7 and R,Jefferson.
Finally, ATL trades Gordon for Walton (amnesty) and Gibson to the Cavs. Trades Warrick to the Cavs for a furure 2nd.
Selects Ross at #7, Perry at #9 and Moultrie at #13.
Resigns FA I.Johnson. Collins, Pargo and Green. Signs FA R. Allen (1.5 M)

JT- Pargo (FA)- [b]Gibson
Ross (#7)- Allen (FA)- Green (FA)
Perry (#9)- Jefferson- Magette- Ross
Horford- Moultrie (#13)- I. Johnson (FA)
Monroe- Collins (FA)- Horford

Athletic and long starting 5, experience coming off the bench especialy Allen brought in to mentor Ross, Jefferson for Perry while Al can do the same with Moultrie.
4 potential C with Monroe- Horford- Moultrie and Collins.
Thoughts? ATL could amenty either Jefferson or Maggette in place of Walton for extra savings or if not trade them for multiple pieces to do separate trades later for 2nd picks e.g Childress and Telfair. In that case, we would have to trade Chil and the future 2nd from the Cavs for cap releif only!...

[FCNATL85]

Perry (Jones) the III obviously, aka Perry!

[myrak433]

Something a bit crazy nvolving ATL/ CHA/ DET and UTA

UTA
incoming:
Marvin, T. Thomas and Zaza
outgoing:
Jefferson to DET, Raja Bell and #47 to CHA

DET:
incoming:
Jefferson from UTA + CHA #2
outgoing:
Monroe, Gordon and #9 to ATL

CHA:
incoming:
Joe Johnson, ATL #43, UTA #47 and Raja Bell
outgoing:
Magette to ATL, T. Thomas to UTA, #2 to DET

ATL:[b]
incoming:
Gordon. Monroe, #9 from DET
outgoing:
JJ and #43 to CHA, Marvin and Zaza to UTA

ATL turns around and signs and trades Hinrich (needed as Nash departs) and #23 and future second for Warrick and #13.
Trades J. Smith to GS for #7 and R,Jefferson.
Finally, ATL trades Gordon for Walton (amnesty) and Gibson to the Cavs. Trades Warrick to the Cavs for a furure 2nd.
Selects Ross at #7, Perry at #9 and Moultrie at #13.
Resigns FA I.Johnson. Collins, Pargo and Green. Signs FA R. Allen (1.5 M)

JT- Pargo (FA)- [b]Gibson
Ross (#7)- Allen (FA)- Green (FA)
Perry (#9)- Jefferson- Magette- Ross
Horford- Moultrie (#13)- I. Johnson (FA)
Monroe- Collins (FA)- Horford

Athletic and long starting 5, experience coming off the bench especialy Allen brought in to mentor Ross, Jefferson for Perry while Al can do the same with Moultrie.
4 potential C with Monroe- Horford- Moultrie and Collins.
Thoughts? ATL could amenty either Jefferson or Maggette in place of Walton for extra savings or if not trade them for multiple pieces to do separate trades later for 2nd picks e.g Childress and Telfair. In that case, we would have to trade Chil and the future 2nd from the Cavs for cap releif only!...

so the Hawks are going to get Monroe and the #9 by only giving up a 2nd round pick Marvin and Zaza? and on top of that get rid of JJ monster contract by only taking back Gordon's ugly but way smaller contract. I know JJ is a better player than Gordon but the difference in how better JJ is to Gordon is not equal to the difference in how much more JJ gets paid.

Then we parley Hinrich the 23 pick and a future second for Warrick and #13. Why wouldn't the sun just sign Kirk since he is a unrestricted free agent and keep their pick? at least say we will take Childress but I can't see them even doing that.

bottom line I just can't see any team doing any of these trades. only ATL and Det (maybe). but Det doesn't do it without the 2nd overall pick coming from CHA and CHA isn't giving up that pick for that bullchit.....

[myrak433]

I got a draft day trade..... Josh Smith and the 23rd pick to Portland for 6th ,11th picks, and Wesley Matthews. Hawks draft a big with 6th pick if one of Drummond or Thomas Robinson is there (in that order) if not get one of Harrison Barnes, MKG, Perry Jones , or Jeremy Lamp (in that order) if we get one on the bigs with the first pick take take one of those wings (above) with pick 11. if all are gone by the 11th pick trade down maybe Bostons 21st and 22nd picks. with those picks get two of Terrence Jones, Jeffery Taylor, Moe Harkless, or Royce White (in that order).

if we don't get one of Drummond or Robinson and we take one of those wings with the the 6th, take one of Jon Henson, Meyers Leonard, or Zeller with the 11th pick. I would love to get Tony Wroten how ever. I believe he is the next Rondo.

[Years80HAWKS]

I like either

Trading Horford to get a good center, or just a serviceable one, and a combo player that could play both at the 4 and the 5, as Speights, for example. Then Smith could share time at both forward positions.

Get a medium class center straight away and, more or less, we have all that together.

I do not think much about the draft thing. I am sure we are not trading anybody, we are not getting a higher pick, anything...

[FCNATL85]

Marvin to CAVS for Luke Walton and #24

They need a SF/PF combo while Marv needs a change of scenery.

Walton becomes a nice trade assett by the trade deadline with one year left on his contract

ATL could also look at signing Antwane Jamison (2 y at 5M)

Teague-Pargo (resigned)- FA
JJ- Green (resigned)- Wroten (24)
Smoothe- Joseph (43)- Jamison
Horford- Jamison- Johnson
Zaza- Ezeli (23)- FA or Collins