geeman wrote: I rather get a guy that I know when he steps on the court, will be a great teammate and make everyone better than a another raw athlete that may not pan out.
And someone just earned their first 'And1'.
Well stated, geeman.
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geeman wrote: I rather get a guy that I know when he steps on the court, will be a great teammate and make everyone better than a another raw athlete that may not pan out.
geeman wrote:I rather get a guy that I know when he steps on the court, will be a great teammate and make everyone better than a another raw athlete that may not pan out.
Jamaaliver wrote:After watching Diaw's impact this post-season, most recently in Game 1 of the NBA Finals...I'm becoming much more comfortable with drafting this Anderson kid.
Diaw uses smarts, guile, size to leave his imprint on the game. Anderson should be able to do that and more as he is (slightly) more athletic than the rotund Boris and has a better jump shot
Baller2014 wrote:Kyle Anderson is one guy I'd want my team to stay away from, and since Ferry's a good GM I don't expect he'll draft him. Kyle Anderson is not Boris Diaw. Diaw succeeds because his size lets him play the 4-5 spot. Kyle is a 3 or nothing, and unlike Diaw (who is surprisingly athletic) Anderson has no speed or athleticism at all. Try watching the draftexpress scouting video on Kyle... I literally cringed. His good points are not especially valuable for his position, he can't actually play the point guard spot in the NBA, and he's got so many gaping flaws in his game it's not even funny. I don't think he's an NBA player. If a good team drafts him I'll hope he makes me eat some crow, but I really doubt it.
Dario Saric if he falls. I also hear they are one of the teams high on Kyle Anderson of UCLA. Mike Budenholzer coached Boris Diaw in San Antonio. He would know how to use him.
I'm not saying that I think Anderson is one of my top 15 favorite prospects in this draft, but tbf, if your basing Anderson on his highlight reel with DX, then you're watching the wrong highlight reel on DX. Watch LaVine's highlight reel and Anderson jumps out - I'd guess 8 of the 10x that LaVine is perfectly set up for a corner 3 or a leak out, it was Anderson who made the play and LaVine who finished it (... or didn't). Anderson shows up in Adams' as well, but he isn't nearly as prevalent as he is in LaVine's. After watching that reel, I ended it thinking that Anderson made LaVine a 1st round pick in the same way that Jason Kidd made Kenyon Martin his big payday.Baller2014 wrote:Kyle Anderson is one guy I'd want my team to stay away from, and since Ferry's a good GM I don't expect he'll draft him. Kyle Anderson is not Boris Diaw. Diaw succeeds because his size lets him play the 4-5 spot. Kyle is a 3 or nothing, and unlike Diaw (who is surprisingly athletic) Anderson has no speed or athleticism at all. Try watching the draftexpress scouting video on Kyle... I literally cringed. His good points are not especially valuable for his position, he can't actually play the point guard spot in the NBA, and he's got so many gaping flaws in his game it's not even funny. I don't think he's an NBA player. If a good team drafts him I'll hope he makes me eat some crow, but I really doubt it.
One thing here is that I don't think that we have to get a point "forward" though. We've discussed how I see Manu's role with SAS as a 2nd penetrator who has other skills that can play alongside the primary penetrator and we're just looking for that #2 penetrator (or, maybe #1 depending on your view of Teague's future with us). This would also explain our interest in Stauskas who actually has some dribble drive skills on top of his elite shooting skill.Jamaaliver wrote:From Chad Ford's Live Chat today regarding ATL picking at #15:Dario Saric if he falls. I also hear they are one of the teams high on Kyle Anderson of UCLA. Mike Budenholzer coached Boris Diaw in San Antonio. He would know how to use him.
Kyle is expected to have his second workout for the Hawks next Monday. This time just days before the NBA Draft. I still think DF has something up his sleeves as far as moving up in the draft. But it's clear there is interest in KA.
Sounds like Bud wants a young Point Forward to play through in the future. If Saric is gone before we get a shot at him, I suspect Hawks will consider Anderson a worthy consolation prize.
But the fact that most Mock Drafts are all over the place on who we might pick tells me that Danny is playing his cards very close to the vest. And most everyone is just guessing...
http://www.ajc.com/weblogs/atlanta-hawks/2014/jun/23/ajcs-nba-mock-draft-version-20/15. Hawks: Kyle Anderson, SF, UCLA
The Hawks need help at the small forward spot for depth in shooting and defense. Anderson, who will have been in for two pre-draft workouts, would make sense. I mentioned his name to Hawks GM Danny Ferry last week. He just smiled. Didn't say yes. Didn't say no.
theatlfan wrote:I'm not saying that I think Anderson is one of my top 15 favorite prospects in this draft, but tbf, if your basing Anderson on his highlight reel with DX, then you're watching the wrong highlight reel on DX. Watch LaVine's highlight reel and Anderson jumps out - I'd guess 8 of the 10x that LaVine is perfectly set up for a corner 3 or a leak out, it was Anderson who made the play and LaVine who finished it (... or didn't). Anderson shows up in Adams' as well, but he isn't nearly as prevalent as he is in LaVine's. After watching that reel, I ended it thinking that Anderson made LaVine a 1st round pick in the same way that Jason Kidd made Kenyon Martin his big payday.
Jamaaliver wrote:And Kyle Anderson falls all the way to #30 where the Spurs select him. He'll be a key component of their next title run...
SMH.
Ferry is really starting to concern me.
atlantabbq99 wrote:Jamaaliver wrote:And Kyle Anderson falls all the way to #30 where the Spurs select him. He'll be a key component of their next title run...
SMH.
Ferry is really starting to concern me.
Adreian Payne fell to #30, you would have said the same thing
azuresou1 wrote:Bingo.
Anderson falling to 30 because teams opted to pick guys who average 5/2 in Brazil doesn't make OUR pick bad. Our goal was to get the best player we could at 15 - and Payne is that guy.
Jamaaliver wrote:And Kyle Anderson falls all the way to #30 where the Spurs select him. He'll be a key component of their next title run...
SMH.
Ferry is really starting to concern me.
Jamaaliver wrote:azuresou1 wrote:Bingo.
Anderson falling to 30 because teams opted to pick guys who average 5/2 in Brazil doesn't make OUR pick bad. Our goal was to get the best player we could at 15 - and Payne is that guy.
While Payne is indeed a solid selection, I'm not sure anyone would say he was the best player available in one of the deepest drafts in years.
And with the health red flags he exhibited recently, there be legitimate concerns in his long term viability.
(Foot injuries, mono for an entire year, small lungs, learning disabilities)
K Anderson will meanwhile be a key cog on a title contender in the next couple of seasons.
In a draft like this, I'd have preferred we trade back and select multiple solid players, than to simply get one role player with a pick as high as 15.
Ferry is taking the safe route, and every year our record gets worse and worse under his watch.
PandaKidd wrote:Every player has issues, especially at 15+ in the draft.
Jamaaliver wrote:azuresou1 wrote:Bingo.
Anderson falling to 30 because teams opted to pick guys who average 5/2 in Brazil doesn't make OUR pick bad. Our goal was to get the best player we could at 15 - and Payne is that guy.
While Payne is indeed a solid selection, I'm not sure anyone would say he was the best player available in one of the deepest drafts in years.
And with the health red flags he exhibited recently, there be legitimate concerns in his long term viability.
(Foot injuries, mono for an entire year, small lungs, learning disabilities)
K Anderson will meanwhile be a key cog on a title contender in the next couple of seasons.
Payne will be a serviceable player on a middling team.
In a draft like this, I'd have preferred we trade back and select multiple solid players, than to simply get one role player with a pick as high as 15.
Ferry is taking the safe route, and every year our record gets worse and worse under his watch.