Klay Thompson wants a max contract

atlantabbq99 · Post #1 » by **atlantabbq99** » Mon Jul 21, 2014 2:09 am

Giving Klay Thompson a max contract would be a hard pill to swallow, but he is alot better than Gordan Hayward and Chandler Parsons by a wide margin.

Ferry doesn't like to give out big contract but on the other hand, i think Klay could be a better version of Peja, or Peja with better defense.

Rip2137 · Post #2 » by **Rip2137** » Mon Jul 21, 2014 2:51 am

I personally don't think he is better than either of those guys honestly. But those guy set the bar salary wise, so maybe that's what it will cost to get a good wing player.

Skyhawk1 · Post #3 » by **Skyhawk1** » Mon Jul 21, 2014 2:53 pm

He's not even worth 10/M a season. Stay away from him.

Post #4 » by **Hawk Eye** » Mon Jul 21, 2014 3:16 pm

This dude is going to get so far over paid come next off season it's not even funny.

Geaux_Hawks · Post #5 » by **Geaux_Hawks** » Mon Jul 21, 2014 3:54 pm

Klay Thompson is so UNDERRATED. He's a better defender than what people give him credit for and he's one of the better overall offensive 2 guards playing right now. On top of that, he's an elite shooter.

Post #6 » by **HMFFL** » Mon Jul 21, 2014 7:58 pm

I like him a great deal but the max would be overpaying.
Golden State needs to stop messing around and include him in trades with Minny.

hawkschop1 · Post #7 » by **hawkschop1** » Mon Jul 21, 2014 11:14 pm

Is klay a FA next summer? I'd pay him if I was ferry same goes with Wes Matthews

If we could get Thompson or Matthews and Marc Gasol next summer that'd be nice.

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Post #8 » by **Hawk Eye** » Tue Jul 22, 2014 12:33 am

hawkschop1 wrote:Is klay a FA next summer? I'd pay him if I was ferry same goes with Wes Matthews

If we could get Thompson or Matthews and Marc Gasol next summer that'd be nice.

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In order for us to even have a chance at this we would probably have to make it to the ECF this season. But realistically probably the NBA Finals.

hawkschop1 · Post #9 » by **hawkschop1** » Tue Jul 22, 2014 1:07 am

^totally agree. Hopefully we turn some heads again this season.

Those three names would be so ideal more so than deng and Monroe

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Rip2137 · Post #10 » by **Rip2137** » Tue Jul 22, 2014 4:40 pm

Anyone will sign with anyone as long as you are ridiculously overpaying. If no one else offers him the max and we do, he will play for us.

People need to get over this "free agents don't choose the Hawks" crap. That goes for every team unless you have a superstar. You have to either over pay, or have a superstar on the team. And I like the guys on our squad but none of them are going to become superstars this year so we will have to over pay.

Post #11 » by **Jamaaliver** » Tue Jul 22, 2014 5:44 pm

Rip2137 wrote:Anyone will sign with anyone as long as you are ridiculously overpaying. If no one else offers him the max and we do, he will play for us.

People need to get over this "free agents don't choose the Hawks" crap. That goes for every team unless you have a superstar. You have to either over pay, or have a superstar on the team. And I like the guys on our squad but none of them are going to become superstars this year so we will have to over pay.

Not necessarily true. In 2010, LeBron turned down max contracts from New Jersey, New York and Chicago to form a super team in Miami in search of titles.

This summer, Dirk turned max contract offers from LA Lakers and HOU Rockets out of loyalty to Dallas and Mark Cuban. Even in the mid-1990's, Shaq ran away from ORL's massive contract offers (despite a fellow superstar and a recent run to the Finals). Duncan notoriously declined overtures from other teams for much of the last decade to stay in SA and win while taking less money. Vancouver had such trouble attracting (or retaining) free agents, they had to move the franchise after only 5 years.

Let's not pretend all franchises are equal. Or that all cities are made bearable by money. The hard truth, some free agents this summer didn't even sit down with us to hear our sales pitch. Pau turned down more money from us to go to a contender in Chicago. Erick Dampier turned down a lucrative long-term contract from ATL years ago and accepted a smaller deal with DAL instead. ATL has a stigma as a franchise and a fan base that took decades to cement.

The stench is so bad here that simply offering too much money won't often get the job done. No great player wants to spend their top years in complete irrelevance.

Dampier is weighing interest from the Hawks against a sign-and-trade offer from the New York Knicks...Dampier could be closer to his home by signing with Atlanta, but he reportedly has concerns about the Hawks' chances to be a contender in the near future.

https://www.accessnorthga.com/detail.php?n=164586

This was after Kenyon Martin turned us down to go to Denver. Free Agents have been spurning the Hawks for decades...even when we try to overpay them.

Rip2137 · Post #12 » by **Rip2137** » Tue Jul 22, 2014 8:35 pm

You missed the biggest part of what I said, that if we are the highest bidder. Kenyon Martin went with the team that offered him the most money. We offered him like 90 million and he signed for almost 30 million more.

Also, Lebron and Gasol and Dampier actually fit what I said. Chicago has Rose and to a lesser extent Noah as their superstars(fringe for Noah) Miami had Wade. Dallas had Dirk. We offered Damp the same contract. We offer him 12-13 and he would have been a Hawk...simple as that.

So again, you either need the most money or have a superstar on deck for a guy to bolt to you. And 90's just don't count because of the cap situation. But all bs aside, if we had offered Deng 15 million he would have been a Hawk. And nothing else changes about this team except the offer.

The few times we tried to over pay, others simply outbid us. So like I said, either superstar or outbid everyone else. That's how it works. All teams are not created equal because some teams have superstars and some are willing to ridiculously over bid constantly.

Post #13 » by **Jamaaliver** » Tue Jul 22, 2014 9:24 pm

Rip2137 wrote:You missed the biggest part of what I said, that if we are the highest bidder. Kenyon Martin went with the team that offered him the most money. We offered him like 90 million and he signed for almost 30 million more.

Naaah.

The Hawks were denied in another attempt to bolster their front court when free agent forward Kenyon Martin turned down their six-year, $85 million offer to accept a similar deal with Denver last week.

https://www.accessnorthga.com/detail.php?n=164586

Martin had to arrange a sign and trade just to get to Denver. He wanted nothing to do with us. Because our franchise was in shambles.

atlantabbq99 · Post #14 » by **atlantabbq99** » Wed Jul 23, 2014 2:12 am

I think Klay can be a 22ppg guy as a featured scorer. Most think Klay is just a specialist shooter, but if u watch him, he is actually creating alot of his own shots and not necessarily just waiting for the opponent to double Curry.

If you look at the numbers, he has similar numbers to Harden in his 3rd year in OKC.

Rip2137 · Post #15 » by **Rip2137** » Wed Jul 23, 2014 2:14 am

I was off on the money, but...the nuggets had just come off a 43 win season, had a guy named Carmelo Anthony and Marcus Camby on the team AND got offered MORE money. You are basically agreeing with me if these are your examples.

The hawks offered less money, had just won 26 games and Al Harrington was their best player...

A player signing with a better team with a superstar for more money in no way negates my point and certainly doesn't say anything about our franchise. I stand by my point, the "guys don't want to play here" thing is a myth. I would think that Milsap(wanted by other teams) and Lou(took less money to sign here) would kinda be proof of that but I think the fact that no situation to the contrary exist would be a far more clear picture.

So I repeat my point...unless you have a superstar, you have to over pay guys a ridiculous amount and they will come to your team. This is a business, simple as that. The way you win free agency is be the best option with either superstars(which we don't have) or the most money(which we offered guys like Joe and Milsap who coincidentally both came here)

atlantabbq99 · Post #16 » by **atlantabbq99** » Wed Jul 23, 2014 2:16 am

Trust me, if Harden left OKC for max, Klay will defiantly leave GSW for max :wink:

Yungsta404 · Post #17 » by **Yungsta404** » Wed Jul 23, 2014 4:05 am

atlantabbq99 wrote:Trust me, if Harden left OKC for max, Klay will defiantly leave GSW for max

Harden didnt leave OKC voluntarily, he was traded because the OKC ownership didnt want to pay him. When GSW shows that they arent willing to pay for Klay (Highly unlikely) then we can talk about him leaving GSW.

hawkschop1 · Post #18 » by **hawkschop1** » Wed Jul 23, 2014 4:11 am

Harden turned down an extension offer from OKC.

It is not the spurs way to have a max player on the roster so maybe we continue to low ball stars and get whatever we can and trust bud to be a stellar coach each year.

We still need a center for next year btw. Looks like brand more and more each day which is fine I suppose

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atlantabbq99 · Post #19 » by **atlantabbq99** » Wed Jul 23, 2014 4:51 am

Yungsta404 wrote:
atlantabbq99 wrote:Trust me, if Harden left OKC for max, Klay will defiantly leave GSW for max

Harden didnt leave OKC voluntarily, he was traded because the OKC ownership didnt want to pay him. When GSW shows that they arent willing to pay for Klay (Highly unlikely) then we can talk about him leaving GSW.

you are not getting the point, the point is young players turning down max money.

simon24 · Post #20 » by **simon24** » Wed Jul 23, 2014 6:10 pm

atlantabbq99 wrote:Giving Klay Thompson a max contract would be a hard pill to swallow, but he is alot better than Gordan Hayward and Chandler Parsons by a wide margin.

Ferry doesn't like to give out big contract but on the other hand, i think Klay could be a better version of Peja, or Peja with better defense.

I wouldn't get him. Giving a max to another second tier SG is the last thing I'd do if I was ATL management