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Re: Official Trade Thread

Postby alex_fortress on Wed Jan 23, 2013 4:17 am

yoadknux wrote:Roy Hibbert + George Hill for Rondo and Bass.


Value is around there. Hill is a very good defender and shooter while Hibbert is a nice defensive anchor, his impact makes a large difference as evident in the Heat series. Also gives the Celtics a more traditional line up with better ball movement. Doesn't hurt that this team could potentially be the best defensive team in the league.

Hill/Barbosa
Bradley/Terry/Lee
Pierce/Green
Garnett/Sullinger/Wilcox
Hibbert/Melo/Collins
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Re: Official Trade Thread

Postby chrisab123 on Wed Jan 23, 2013 6:48 am

alex_fortress wrote:
yoadknux wrote:Roy Hibbert + George Hill for Rondo and Bass.


Value is around there. Hill is a very good defender and shooter while Hibbert is a nice defensive anchor, his impact makes a large difference as evident in the Heat series. Also gives the Celtics a more traditional line up with better ball movement. Doesn't hurt that this team could potentially be the best defensive team in the league.

Hill/Barbosa
Bradley/Terry/Lee
Pierce/Green
Garnett/Sullinger/Wilcox
Hibbert/Melo/Collins


Now this I would probably do, problem is that Indiana wouldn't. Hibbert is slightly overpaid but he has shown at times to be dominant. Big difference between trading Rondo for a guy that has a ton of potential but no results (Cousins) and a guy who has proven himself to be one of the best centers in the NBA.
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Re: Official Trade Thread

Postby chrisab123 on Wed Jan 23, 2013 6:59 am

jfs1000d wrote:I think pierce should go. And, this is the first time I advocated it. But, we aren't contenders, and I think he woukd fetch a good player. To me pierce to clips for bledsoe, butler and salary works out great for both teams. Then, trade rondo for a big and start bledsoe Bradley backcourt.

Or, a pierce for gasol trade makes so much sense if it wasn't lakers and celtics.


1) I can't argue with your Clippers trade scenario because I think thats actually not a terrible deal.
2) What was the Celtics record at this point last year? Until you throw this team in the West on a day in and day out basis, they are contenders. The East is closer enough where they could be the #2 seed in a matter of weeks. The one piece that is screwing things up is Bass. I can't blame the Celtics for signing him because if they didn't use that money they would lose it since they were over the cap by the time they came to terms with Bass.

I would warn against anyone strongly wanting to rebuild any team unless you truly are stuck in the mediocre parts of the draft. Even then, lots of good players have come out of the middle of the 1st round. In the last 3 days, I've heard people that want the Patriots to trade Tom Brady and the Celtics to blow everything up, losing to the Cavs and losing to the LOLCats sucks. But this team plays to its competition, if they're playing an 11 win team they act like that its a night off, its frustrating and annoying but don't be deceived this team comes to play in the playoffs. People kept talking about how bad the seed was last year and thought they were an easy first round exit against Atlanta. Boston won...people on this board thought Philly had an answer but this team pulled it out...hell if Game 2 wasn't in the bag for Miami the Celtics would have played the Thunder. I think we need to take a look at that and not count this team out yet. Lets see what happens next month at the deadline.

BTW the people that want to blow it up for fear of picking in the 10-14 range...where the hell do you think the Celtics are going to pick if they blow it up? 2nd? 1st? The East is terrible and they'll still be playing for an 8th seed as long as they have Rondo since his game is like Kidd's. He's a great distributor.
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Re: Official Trade Thread

Postby laydo on Wed Jan 23, 2013 9:12 am

yoadknux wrote:Roy Hibbert + George Hill for Rondo and Bass.


Pacers fan here, and this trade will never work.

Hibbert may be overpaid and rough on offense, but we need his D. Hill is a native hero who works well now. No offense on Rondo but his shooting won't fit the system.

If the C's is interested in dealing Rondo for a big guy, you should go ask the Jazz, such as,

Rondo, Green, and Lee for Jefferson, Mo Williams, and Burks.

http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=apvegjx
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Re: Official Trade Thread

Postby tfmiii on Wed Jan 23, 2013 11:15 am

laydo wrote:
yoadknux wrote:Roy Hibbert + George Hill for Rondo and Bass.


Pacers fan here, and this trade will never work.

Hibbert may be overpaid and rough on offense, but we need his D. Hill is a native hero who works well now. No offense on Rondo but his shooting won't fit the system.

If the C's is interested in dealing Rondo for a big guy, you should go ask the Jazz, such as,

Rondo, Green, and Lee for Jefferson, Mo Williams, and Burks.

http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=apvegjx

that utah swap is much more realistic, boston would need more coming back, but that is on the right track
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Re: Official Trade Thread

Postby Vorikan on Wed Jan 23, 2013 11:46 am

Would you take a risk for Amar'e Stoudemire,something like this maybe ?
http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=a7osygl
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Re: Official Trade Thread

Postby Cashin out on Wed Jan 23, 2013 11:51 am

You guys need a big guy, Dwight is on the trading block.

What would you guys give up for D12?
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Re: Official Trade Thread

Postby Celts17Pride on Wed Jan 23, 2013 11:52 am

Cashin out wrote:You guys need a big guy, Dwight is on the trading block.

What would you guys give up for D12?


Green, Bass and Terry
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Re: Official Trade Thread

Postby ddb on Wed Jan 23, 2013 12:05 pm

Here's an idea I came up with that is risky but keeps the core + young pieces together in Boston. This deal would be 100% contingent on how Denver feels about having J McGee locked up long-term. Are they regretful of signing him to a large, long-term deal?? Are they open to dealing him for the right package??

The deal would like this:

Bass, Lee (or Terry), Fab Melo and a 2013 1st rd pick to Denver in exchange for McGee and Randolph.

Why for Boston: The Celts are at a point where a shake up is needed. This deal is a shake up. It's risky from a BBall IQ standpoint because both McGee and Randolph have questionnable basketball minds...But from a pure talent and upside standpoint the Celtics are the clear cut winners of this trade. McGee would start at Center and have 2 jobs....Protect the rim and rebound...Playing with KG could be a blessing for this kid. He's super long, which the Celtics desperatly need.. He gives Rondo the Opp to his Ally... I think McGee could turn himself into Boston's version of Tyson Chandler. Remember, it took Chandler some time to develop too. Boston could be the place for McGee.
Anthony Randolph has bounced around and teased coaches with his length and talent but I'd like to see how he does in Boston. He's another guy who could really benefit from playing with Rondo and KG. He's 6'11 with good handle and only 23. He's not playing in Denver. In Boston he'd give the 2nd unit some length..

Rondo, Bradley, Pierce, Garnett, McGee are your starters. Barbosa, Lee/Terry (whoever isn't traded), Green, Sullinger, Randolph. Stick Randolph in the post and let him use his pogo stick talent keep loose balls alive and get easy put back dunks and Ally-oops from Rondo.

Why For Denver: George Karl has his favorites and McGee and Randolph are not part of his group of favorites. Faried is maning the PF spot without much help behind him. It's no secret that they're looking for a pick n pop PF who can knock down that 12 foot jumper. with the style they play that 12 foot J is always open and Bass is a guy who with a fresh environment and opportunity could regain the caliber of play that he established last season.
They'd also get OUT OF a BIG contract given to McGee that has 4 years left and over 40 million. Exchange that with Fab Melo who'll be on a rookie scale contract and can be brought along slowly along with some of Denvers other young pieces (Fournier, Hamilton, Q Miller). If nothing else they gain another trade chip for down the road. And Lee OR Terry gives them a veteran wing player and depth at the 2 which they'll need against a rugged Western conference come playoff time. and who doesn't like draft picks? Denver gets another pick...

to me this deal makes sense for both sides.
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Re: Official Trade Thread

Postby Cashin out on Wed Jan 23, 2013 12:08 pm

Celts17Pride wrote:
Cashin out wrote:You guys need a big guy, Dwight is on the trading block.

What would you guys give up for D12?


Green, Bass and Terry

Replace Green with Sullinger and you have a deal.
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Re: Official Trade Thread

Postby UConn celt on Wed Jan 23, 2013 12:13 pm

Cashin out wrote:
Celts17Pride wrote:
Cashin out wrote:You guys need a big guy, Dwight is on the trading block.

What would you guys give up for D12?


Green, Bass and Terry

Replace Green with Sullinger and you have a deal.


Really? Deal.
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Re: Official Trade Thread

Postby tfmiii on Wed Jan 23, 2013 12:58 pm

Cashin out wrote:
Celts17Pride wrote:
Cashin out wrote:You guys need a big guy, Dwight is on the trading block.

What would you guys give up for D12?


Green, Bass and Terry

Replace Green with Sullinger and you have a deal.

probably need to add sullinger, as green needs to be in deal for salary
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Re: Official Trade Thread

Postby tfmiii on Wed Jan 23, 2013 12:59 pm

ddb wrote:Here's an idea I came up with that is risky but keeps the core + young pieces together in Boston. This deal would be 100% contingent on how Denver feels about having J McGee locked up long-term. Are they regretful of signing him to a large, long-term deal?? Are they open to dealing him for the right package??

The deal would like this:

Bass, Lee (or Terry), Fab Melo and a 2013 1st rd pick to Denver in exchange for McGee and Randolph.

Why for Boston: The Celts are at a point where a shake up is needed. This deal is a shake up. It's risky from a BBall IQ standpoint because both McGee and Randolph have questionnable basketball minds...But from a pure talent and upside standpoint the Celtics are the clear cut winners of this trade. McGee would start at Center and have 2 jobs....Protect the rim and rebound...Playing with KG could be a blessing for this kid. He's super long, which the Celtics desperatly need.. He gives Rondo the Opp to his Ally... I think McGee could turn himself into Boston's version of Tyson Chandler. Remember, it took Chandler some time to develop too. Boston could be the place for McGee.
Anthony Randolph has bounced around and teased coaches with his length and talent but I'd like to see how he does in Boston. He's another guy who could really benefit from playing with Rondo and KG. He's 6'11 with good handle and only 23. He's not playing in Denver. In Boston he'd give the 2nd unit some length..

Rondo, Bradley, Pierce, Garnett, McGee are your starters. Barbosa, Lee/Terry (whoever isn't traded), Green, Sullinger, Randolph. Stick Randolph in the post and let him use his pogo stick talent keep loose balls alive and get easy put back dunks and Ally-oops from Rondo.

Why For Denver: George Karl has his favorites and McGee and Randolph are not part of his group of favorites. Faried is maning the PF spot without much help behind him. It's no secret that they're looking for a pick n pop PF who can knock down that 12 foot jumper. with the style they play that 12 foot J is always open and Bass is a guy who with a fresh environment and opportunity could regain the caliber of play that he established last season.
They'd also get OUT OF a BIG contract given to McGee that has 4 years left and over 40 million. Exchange that with Fab Melo who'll be on a rookie scale contract and can be brought along slowly along with some of Denvers other young pieces (Fournier, Hamilton, Q Miller). If nothing else they gain another trade chip for down the road. And Lee OR Terry gives them a veteran wing player and depth at the 2 which they'll need against a rugged Western conference come playoff time. and who doesn't like draft picks? Denver gets another pick...

to me this deal makes sense for both sides.

sorry don't see Denver making this deal for our scraps and a pick
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Re: Official Trade Thread

Postby Turgon on Wed Jan 23, 2013 1:03 pm

ddb wrote:Here's an idea I came up with that is risky but keeps the core + young pieces together in Boston. This deal would be 100% contingent on how Denver feels about having J McGee locked up long-term. Are they regretful of signing him to a large, long-term deal?? Are they open to dealing him for the right package??

The deal would like this:

Bass, Lee (or Terry), Fab Melo and a 2013 1st rd pick to Denver in exchange for McGee and Randolph.

Why for Boston: The Celts are at a point where a shake up is needed. This deal is a shake up. It's risky from a BBall IQ standpoint because both McGee and Randolph have questionnable basketball minds...But from a pure talent and upside standpoint the Celtics are the clear cut winners of this trade. McGee would start at Center and have 2 jobs....Protect the rim and rebound...Playing with KG could be a blessing for this kid. He's super long, which the Celtics desperatly need.. He gives Rondo the Opp to his Ally... I think McGee could turn himself into Boston's version of Tyson Chandler. Remember, it took Chandler some time to develop too. Boston could be the place for McGee.


I like that trade, even if McGee is the dumbest player ever to set foot on a NBA court.
Still, I think Denver would ask for Sully instead of Melo+pick.
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Re: Official Trade Thread

Postby ddb on Wed Jan 23, 2013 1:04 pm

^^^ they would if they felt like they made a big mistake extending him to big money, long-term.

It would be no different then a team coming to us saying we'll give you a couple assets and players for Jeff Green. ainge might consider it.
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