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31to6 wrote:

Hal14 wrote:

ConstableGeneva wrote:Jrue among elite company...

He definitely has a shot at making the hall of fame.

Another title this season would help his case..

2x All-Star would set a new low for the HOF, am I right? Or is Ginobili that and there already (will check)

Edit to add: https://www.basketball-reference.com/leaders/hof_prob.html
Ginobili was a 2X All Star about BBRef gave him a 20% chance of making the HOF -- he of course did.
Jrue is a 2X All Star and BBref gives him a 0.8% chance of making the HOF -- 42nd among active players. I don't know their formula or their accuracy -- just look at it now and then -- Horford, FWIW, is at 12% (28th among active players) -- put two rings on his fingers and I'd bet it jumps up into Kyle **** Lowry territory! (85% )

Guys with noteworthy accomplishments in international play don't need to do as much in the NBA to be HoFers.

Two more titles, one more Olympic Gold, two more All-Defense teams get Jrue to the HoF.

KillahGhostface wrote:

Read on Twitter

Ughhh. Hope it doesn’t mess with his stroke, he’s been amazing from three

Shut him down for a few weeks until the playoffs

Hope they aren't hiding a major injury like they did with Brogdon.

JaMarco wrote:Hope they aren't hiding a major injury like they did with Brogdon.

I don't think they are. If he's experiencing dead arm like the report says then shut him down for a couple weeks. Really nothing left to play for. They aren't chasing the GSW record and they've locked everything up more or less.

chrisab123 wrote:

JaMarco wrote:Hope they aren't hiding a major injury like they did with Brogdon.

I don't think they are. If he's experiencing dead arm like the report says then shut him down for a couple weeks. Really nothing left to play for. They aren't chasing the GSW record and they've locked everything up more or less.

How do you know it will heal in a couple weeks? There was no timetable for return.

Jrue Holiday says his shoulder is fine.

Haven't listened to it yet...

ConstableGeneva wrote:Haven't listened to it yet...

Watch on YouTube

I came here to post a shorter version of this video. Great watch. Jrue goes into detail about the trade and also speaks highly about the Jays' leadership.

EDIT: I've just watched the rest. Jrue is a class act as usual. After listening to him, I'm even more pumped about this team than I was before.

They couldn't have cut out the first 45 seconds where he missed the first 4 shots? lol

Not that they’re in a rush to get a deal done or anything, but Jrue is eligible for an extension in a couple of days.

zoyathedestroya wrote:Not that they’re in a rush to get a deal done or anything, but Jrue is eligible for an extension in a couple of days.

He hasn't really played like we need to be extending him for big money.

Truthfully I expected more.

The Corey's wrote:

zoyathedestroya wrote:Not that they’re in a rush to get a deal done or anything, but Jrue is eligible for an extension in a couple of days.

He hasn't really played like we need to be extending him for big money.

Truthfully I expected more.

I love how he's played with the Celtics. I don't have stats handy, but feel like his defense has been as advertised -- not as 'showy' as Marcus, but also (unlike Marcus) consistently excellent. Offensively he's sacrificed the most to let the team hum along. He'll remind us he can score here and there, helping keep the defense honest, and his 3pt % is 3rd in the league and otherworldly from the corners -- but offensively what I love most is when he decides he's going to post someone up and score on them. Loved it when Marcus did that, love it when Jrue does that and I think (again, no stats) he scores at a really efficient rate down there. Plus he'll hang in the dunker spot and make plays for other guys just because he does what he wants.

So I wasn't expecting him to come in and put up 20ppg -- he could on most teams, but for this one to be excellent someone needs to be down around 13, and he is, on great efficiency, and could (my opinion) turn it up if needed. Having him as a 'fifth best' starter is preposterous -- and probably incorrect -- but I love it and I home they back up the Brinks truck for him. $120/4 might not be possible; maybe $120/3? After that, Yam Madar will be ready to take over

31to6 wrote:

The Corey's wrote:

zoyathedestroya wrote:Not that they’re in a rush to get a deal done or anything, but Jrue is eligible for an extension in a couple of days.

He hasn't really played like we need to be extending him for big money.

Truthfully I expected more.

I love how he's played with the Celtics. I don't have stats handy, but feel like his defense has been as advertised -- not as 'showy' as Marcus, but also (unlike Marcus) consistently excellent. Offensively he's sacrificed the most to let the team hum along. He'll remind us he can score here and there, helping keep the defense honest, and his 3pt % is 3rd in the league and otherworldly from the corners -- but offensively what I love most is when he decides he's going to post someone up and score on them. Loved it when Marcus did that, love it when Jrue does that and I think (again, no stats) he scores at a really efficient rate down there. Plus he'll hang in the dunker spot and make plays for other guys just because he does what he wants.

So I wasn't expecting him to come in and put up 20ppg -- he could on most teams, but for this one to be excellent someone needs to be down around 13, and he is, on great efficiency, and could (my opinion) turn it up if needed. Having him as a 'fifth best' starter is preposterous -- and probably incorrect -- but I love it and I home they back up the Brinks truck for him. $120/4 might not be possible; maybe $120/3? After that, Yam Madar will be ready to take over

He's not a 37 million a year player. Certainly not at ages 35,36 and 37.

The Corey's wrote:

31to6 wrote:

The Corey's wrote:
He hasn't really played like we need to be extending him for big money.

Truthfully I expected more.

I love how he's played with the Celtics. I don't have stats handy, but feel like his defense has been as advertised -- not as 'showy' as Marcus, but also (unlike Marcus) consistently excellent. Offensively he's sacrificed the most to let the team hum along. He'll remind us he can score here and there, helping keep the defense honest, and his 3pt % is 3rd in the league and otherworldly from the corners -- but offensively what I love most is when he decides he's going to post someone up and score on them. Loved it when Marcus did that, love it when Jrue does that and I think (again, no stats) he scores at a really efficient rate down there. Plus he'll hang in the dunker spot and make plays for other guys just because he does what he wants.

So I wasn't expecting him to come in and put up 20ppg -- he could on most teams, but for this one to be excellent someone needs to be down around 13, and he is, on great efficiency, and could (my opinion) turn it up if needed. Having him as a 'fifth best' starter is preposterous -- and probably incorrect -- but I love it and I home they back up the Brinks truck for him. $120/4 might not be possible; maybe $120/3? After that, Yam Madar will be ready to take over

He's not a 37 million a year player. Certainly not at ages 35,36 and 37.

With the cap increasing, we have to reset our standards for what a $20M, $30M, etc player is perhaps annually.

More important, it’ll hopefully be a question of whether or not to pay/maybe overpay to bring a title-winning team back to try to defend their crown. I hope Wyc and co will pony up to do so. With the Jays over $60 each this team will be over the cap for the foreseeable future. Contenders have to splurge to keep it together — or not and wither. I think Jrue’s game will age well — IMO it already is.