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Rondo Trade Rumors & Ideas (update pg 8)

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Re: Rondo Trade Rumors & Ideas (update pg 8) 

Post#691 » by StojkoVrankovic » Wed Feb 19, 2014 9:30 pm

I have no idea how folks can think this is a good trade

Parsons is a nice 3rd option on a team whose efficiency will take a beating as the focus of a defense. That is important because he isn't good at anything else on the court. Is anyone going to acknowledge his contract situation? Same length as rondo and he wants to get paid, how is this a good thing as the main piece of the deal?

Lin is a backup PG on a team that desperately wants to improve at PG. The owners will have to pay him 15 million next season. Not appealing

Ainge tried to get Asik for a pile of crap already but was hesitant, like every other team in the league, because nobody want to pay him 15 million next year.

There is a great chance that the pick we received for our coach will be better than these picks. Once again, how is this appealing in any way. They might as well be 2nd rounders


This trade makes us a middle of the road team, with an abundance of overpaid, crap assets.

This goes against everything we have ever heard in regards to what Danny is looking for. This is a bad move
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Post#692 » by KGboss » Wed Feb 19, 2014 9:33 pm

Do you thinK Danny doesnt know that? The whole proposal was hyperbowl by some guy on a messageboard much like this one.
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Re: Rondo Trade Rumors & Ideas (update pg 8) 

Post#693 » by Put Back Dunk » Wed Feb 19, 2014 9:38 pm

jfs1000d wrote:The trades we are hearing, maybe Celtics centric, are absolute home runs for Boston. I don't think Ainge should trade Rondo unless he gets the package talked about.

Rondo
Jeff Green

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Parsons
Lin
Asik
4th guy?
2 picks

It is a huge haul. That's a 17 ppg scorer in Parsons (possibly 20 ppg guy going forward), starting C in Asik and a starting guard/trade bait in Lin for right now. Add in the two picks, even late and it is a great deal.

As far as Houston, they do it because (and I know Rockets fans are reading to get our opinion) you have no idea how good Rajon Rondo is. No idea. People, especially those that look at numbers, don't get it.

Think about this --- why would Toronto and Sacremento, Lakers, Phoenix and the Knicks (desperately) try and go after this guy? Toronto, Sac-town aren't even close to contending. What do they want with Rondo?

The guy supercharges your offense, makes the game easier for your and is a star. He isn't a great scorer, so he needs tools to work with. But, he made KG, Pierce and Ray relevant later in their careers by making then work less.

He is a Jason Kidd, Magic like effect on a game. He isn't the scorer magic is, but has that level passing ability and can control a game.

The other reason?

Rondo isn't friends with LeBron. He isn't friends with cp3, Durant or Westbrook. He doesn't like those guys. He wants to beat them.

Rondo is the only guy that kept Spolestra up at night. Off all the teams this Miami Heat team has faced in their 3 year run, the only team that legitimately scared them half to death was that Rondo led effort in the ECF. It took LeBron's greatest game of his career to keep the heat alive.

Who brought that out? Rondo.

Don't look at his numbers in aggregate.

That said, if we don't get Parson, I am not interested. I think a Parson's-less package makes us worse in the long run than Rondo coming back. Rondo will re-sign in Boston. That's not an issue. We either get bowled over, or keep him.


All the more reason to keep him in my opinion. It is MUCH easier to find someone to provide what Parsons brings to a team than what Rondo brings to the team, especially from their positions. Think of how many all-star caliber PGs there truly are in the league, now look at skilled wing players. The talent pool is not in Parson's favor in that respect. Parsons is definitely more talented than his numbers show, playing next to two all-stars himself will certainly impact ppg. From a rebuilding standpoint however the likelihood of adding someone that has Parson's abilities to a team that already has Rondo is something I trust Danny to do, but finding another Rondo just isn't as easy - lotto picks or not.
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Re: Rondo Trade Rumors & Ideas (update pg 8) 

Post#694 » by Captain_Caveman » Wed Feb 19, 2014 9:38 pm

Slartibartfast wrote:Color me unenthused with the Parsons, Asik and Rockets picks (i.e. late first rounders) for Rondo offer.

Two quarters, two dimes for a nicked up Sacajawea dollar.


Yeah, no hate to the Rockets, but... no **** it, hate to the Rockets. Their fans driving me bananas with their inane homer nonsense. Talking all that **** and they wouldn't know winning basketball if it jumped up and bit them in the ass. Have won exactly one playoff series since the mid-90s, when they slipped through for a couple of watered-down rings while Jordan was off playing baseball. They doing OK right now, but let's be real... that team is softer than puppy ****. Howard is a huge wuss when the chips are down, as proven repeatedly. Harden, wuss. Parsons, wuss. Lin, wuss. For real.

If they want to go into battle with the current collection of sallies the have on that team, let them. I'll be over here with some crazy glue ready to put them back together when a team full of killers like the Thunder or Pacers rips them in half - which they absolutely will.

Don't need Rondo? Just want to watch Harden and your perimeter guys jack up contested threes while Howard curls up into the fetal position like he always does once the real season starts? Be my **** guest. The only thing we need from them in this deal is that lottery pick they don't even have yet.

And don't even get me started on their constant ball-waxing of Morey, who was basically Ainge's intern, for ****'s sake. See you when you never get there, homies.
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Re: Rondo Trade Rumors & Ideas (update pg 8) 

Post#695 » by StojkoVrankovic » Wed Feb 19, 2014 9:41 pm

KGboss wrote:Do you thinK Danny doesnt know that? The whole proposal was hyperbowl by some guy on a messageboard much like this one.

Unless Ainge has been lying to us this whole time we should be good

Young stud on a good contract, actual good picks, and sign me up. Overpaid crap to simply make the numbers work? No thanks
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Re: Rondo Trade Rumors & Ideas (update pg 8) 

Post#696 » by DK-All Day » Wed Feb 19, 2014 9:44 pm

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Slartibartfast wrote:Color me unenthused with the Parsons, Asik and Rockets picks (i.e. late first rounders) for Rondo offer.

Two quarters, two dimes for a nicked up Sacajawea dollar.


Yeah, no hate to the Rockets, but... no **** it, hate to the Rockets. Their fans driving me bananas with their inane homer nonsense. Talking all that **** and they wouldn't know winning basketball if it jumped up and bit them in the ass. Have won exactly one playoff series since the mid-90s, when they slipped through for a couple of watered-down rings while Jordan was off playing baseball. They doing OK right now, but let's be real... that team is softer than puppy ****. Howard is a huge wuss when the chips are down, as proven repeatedly. Harden, wuss. Parsons, wuss. Lin, wuss. For real.

If they want to go into battle with the current collection of sallies the have on that team, let them. I'll be over here with some crazy glue ready to put them back together when a team full of killers like the Thunder or Pacers rips them in half - which they absolutely will.

Don't need Rondo? Just want to watch Harden and your perimeter guys jack up contested threes while Howard curls up into the fetal position like he always does once the real season starts? Be my **** guest. The only thing we need from them in this deal is that lottery pick they don't even have yet.

And don't even get me started on their constant ball-waxing of Morey, who was basically Ainge's intern, for ****'s sake. See you when you never get there, homies.

This.

Morey is overrated as a GM.What has he done that makes him a good GM.Take advantage of Presti trying to trade Harden? The deals for Asik and Lin? Getting Dwight Howard? And even then Parsons recruited him.
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Post#697 » by hiphop1 » Wed Feb 19, 2014 9:45 pm

Could DA be using Houston to get Sacto back to the table?
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Post#698 » by reload141 » Wed Feb 19, 2014 9:47 pm

I thought it would be obvious by now, but clearly DA is trying to create a new dynasty that people haven't seen for decades. Trading Rondo for Parsons/Asik/ etc etc and then in the offseason go and get Hayward and Dragic then come next season finally, we can go back to the teams of old.

Dragic/Hayward/Parsons/Olynyk/Asik

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Post#699 » by 15th overall » Wed Feb 19, 2014 9:51 pm

Celts17Pride wrote:Sam Amick‏@sam_amick
Makes sense for Houston to pursue Boston's Rondo (and @ESPNSteinLine says Rox have interest) but I'm told the two teams have not spoken.


Could it be that all the rumors are being generated from one source? Clutchfan?

That would actually be pretty impressive.
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Post#700 » by Celts17Pride » Wed Feb 19, 2014 9:52 pm

hiphop1 wrote:Could DA be using Houston to get Sacto back to the table?

Could be no discussions at all and the internet is running wild with unfounded rumors.
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Post#701 » by Celts17Pride » Wed Feb 19, 2014 9:54 pm

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Celts17Pride wrote:Sam Amick‏@sam_amick
Makes sense for Houston to pursue Boston's Rondo (and @ESPNSteinLine says Rox have interest) but I'm told the two teams have not spoken.


Could it be that all the rumors are being generated from one source? Clutchfan?

That would actually be pretty impressive.

Sam Amico was pointing to the guy on Clutchfan, Incarcerated Bob and SportsLegion were referencing Sam Amico, Mark Stein was pointing to the FoxSports report by Sam Amico.

See where this is going.......

I'll wait for Woj.
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Re: Rondo Trade Rumors & Ideas (update pg 8) 

Post#702 » by Captain_Caveman » Wed Feb 19, 2014 10:01 pm

All comes down to us wanting Parsons and a lottery pick as the centerpieces of the deal, IMO.

Question is: How do they get a lottery pick without Parsons?

My verdict: LOL.
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Post#703 » by shawn unkempt » Wed Feb 19, 2014 10:10 pm

Yeah, I think we already have all the third options we're going to need. PASS
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Post#704 » by Marvel » Wed Feb 19, 2014 10:10 pm

reload141 wrote:I thought it would be obvious by now, but clearly DA is trying to create a new dynasty that people haven't seen for decades. Trading Rondo for Parsons/Asik/ etc etc and then in the offseason go and get Hayward and Dragic then come next season finally, we can go back to the teams of old.

Dragic/Hayward/Parsons/Olynyk/Asik

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Post#705 » by gocelts » Wed Feb 19, 2014 10:13 pm

I GOT OFF THE FONE WITH MY SOURSE. DANNY IS GOING TO MAKE A TRADE AND ITS NOTHING THAT HAS BEEN BROKE ON THE BOARDS. MORE DETAILS LATER BUT YOU HEARD IT HEAR FURST.


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Post#706 » by GuyClinch » Wed Feb 19, 2014 10:15 pm

I don't see the deal going down but maybe Ainge doesn't want to pay Rondo max - so its a way to get something for him rather then letting him walk.. Its not like Rondo is the Celtics property for life. You have to think about the future..
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Post#707 » by Avalanche » Wed Feb 19, 2014 10:16 pm

Also, IF Rondo is already using the "i wont resign" stuff in trade talks... it would only get worse next season when he's expiring
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Post#708 » by ddb » Wed Feb 19, 2014 10:36 pm

who says no.

Rondo, Bradley, Bass to Phoenix for Bledsoe, Okafors expiring, Len and a pick?
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Post#709 » by DarkAzcura » Wed Feb 19, 2014 10:43 pm

ddb wrote:who says no.

Rondo, Bradley, Bass to Phoenix for Bledsoe, Okafors expiring, Len and a pick?


I'd say no because we almost got Bledsoe AND Jordan for Garnett and Pierce. It'd be on repeat in my head every time I saw Bledsoe if we traded Rondo for him haha.

I don't really like that knee injury he had recently either..wasn't a part of his meniscus removed ala Brandon Roy? Eek
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Re: Rondo Trade Rumors & Ideas (update pg 8) 

Post#710 » by Marvel » Wed Feb 19, 2014 10:50 pm

Yeah, that surgery Bledsoe got scares the **** outta me now. I was high on him when the KG, PP rumours were up in the air, but not after his latest knee surgery.

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