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Re: Celtics will pick 21 and 22 The Draft Thread

Postby max powers on Fri Jun 08, 2012 6:52 pm

Right know I want Myers Leonard (well see if he falls that far)
and... Jeffery Taylor incredible athlete (build similar to MKG), lock down defender, can hit the three. Downside and only reason he's not lottery older age 23 and not very aggressive offensively.
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Re: Celtics will pick 21 and 22 The Draft Thread

Postby BfB on Fri Jun 08, 2012 6:59 pm

humblebum wrote:Hmm...

After watching some film and reading some scouting reports on Sullinger I'm pretty down on his potential. The guy has great skill and girth but his lack of lift is going to hurt his ability to finish around the rim at the NBA level.

Here's a note on my personal draft binky from Swishscout re the Combine:

Draymond Green looked svelte in workouts, dropping some weight and getting in shape to get ready for the league. Apparently a lot of team statisticians love him because of his efficiency and impact based on his numbers at Michigan State. Here's a link to his highlight video on swishscout:

http://youtu.be/2lumD3NIVZQ


I'm no Red Aurbach, but for what it's worth. I spoke with Chad Ford this weekend and he says the ESPN stats crew has Green as one of the highest rated players by their advanced analytical formulas...ever.

I don't think analytics are everything, but a rating that significant is usually not a bad thing. He'll certainly be more productive than Bass once he matures. Not a bad late 1st/early 2nd round pick.

People are buzzing about O'Quinn and Barton as well - though no definitive opinions yet, just intrigue and questions. Myers Leonard was a workout warrior but haven't learned anything regarding how his interviews went.

This is my last post. I've enjoyed the dialogue immensely. Don't get the chance to talk much with C's fans at home and certainly not when working, so it's been real.

Sully, Elrod, Pogue - love where your heads are at.
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Re: Celtics will pick 21 and 22 The Draft Thread

Postby max powers on Fri Jun 08, 2012 7:07 pm

How is this for a ridiculously athletic super fast transition line up with shut down defenders.

1 - Rondo
2 - Bradley
3 - Jeffrey Taylor
4 - Jeff Green
5 - KG
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Re: Celtics will pick 21 and 22 The Draft Thread

Postby threrf23 on Fri Jun 08, 2012 8:46 pm

BfB wrote:
humblebum wrote:Hmm...

After watching some film and reading some scouting reports on Sullinger I'm pretty down on his potential. The guy has great skill and girth but his lack of lift is going to hurt his ability to finish around the rim at the NBA level.

Here's a note on my personal draft binky from Swishscout re the Combine:

Draymond Green looked svelte in workouts, dropping some weight and getting in shape to get ready for the league. Apparently a lot of team statisticians love him because of his efficiency and impact based on his numbers at Michigan State. Here's a link to his highlight video on swishscout:

http://youtu.be/2lumD3NIVZQ


I'm no Red Aurbach, but for what it's worth. I spoke with Chad Ford this weekend and he says the ESPN stats crew has Green as one of the highest rated players by their advanced analytical formulas...ever.


I've been in favor of Draymond Green over Royce White, based on stats/scouting Green seems like he is at least as good, at least has almost as much upside, is in a similar mold, and lacks question marks off-court (nbadraft.net cites "a number" of off court incidents in White's past, and frankly if he is so good where was the buzz the first two years after he graduated HS?). And Royce White's 1.8 A/TO ratio in conference play this season was real impressive regardless of context (in comparison to other player who could be considered bigs), but Draymond Green's 1.8 A/TO ratio in conference play his junior season was probably more impressive.

Anyways I was just sitting down @ happy hour with a friend who isn't a big NBA fan but follows college bball much moreso than I do. We were talking about the draft and he volunteered his opinion on Draymond Green, he actually said that Green reminded him of Magic Johnson, b/c he could do everything. I am not putting nearly enough stock in his opinion to buy into that but I do see a growing consensus here.

fwiw that guy follows the Pac 10 more than any other conference, and had expected Isaiah Thomas to be a good pro. He had previously told me he liked Wroten more than Ross, today he made it clear that he really likes Wroten.
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Re: Celtics will pick 21 and 22 The Draft Thread

Postby humblebum on Fri Jun 08, 2012 8:58 pm

BfB wrote:
humblebum wrote:Hmm...

After watching some film and reading some scouting reports on Sullinger I'm pretty down on his potential. The guy has great skill and girth but his lack of lift is going to hurt his ability to finish around the rim at the NBA level.

Here's a note on my personal draft binky from Swishscout re the Combine:

Draymond Green looked svelte in workouts, dropping some weight and getting in shape to get ready for the league. Apparently a lot of team statisticians love him because of his efficiency and impact based on his numbers at Michigan State. Here's a link to his highlight video on swishscout:

http://youtu.be/2lumD3NIVZQ


I'm no Red Aurbach, but for what it's worth. I spoke with Chad Ford this weekend and he says the ESPN stats crew has Green as one of the highest rated players by their advanced analytical formulas...ever.

I don't think analytics are everything, but a rating that significant is usually not a bad thing. He'll certainly be more productive than Bass once he matures. Not a bad late 1st/early 2nd round pick.

People are buzzing about O'Quinn and Barton as well - though no definitive opinions yet, just intrigue and questions. Myers Leonard was a workout warrior but haven't learned anything regarding how his interviews went.

This is my last post. I've enjoyed the dialogue immensely. Don't get the chance to talk much with C's fans at home and certainly not when working, so it's been real.

Sully, Elrod, Pogue - love where your heads are at.


Ah you'll be back you ol' rascal.

Nothing personal. Just basketball, Red.

Draymond Green is the sleeper.
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Re: Celtics will pick 21 and 22 The Draft Thread

Postby humblebum on Fri Jun 08, 2012 9:06 pm

threrf23 wrote:
BfB wrote:
humblebum wrote:Hmm...

After watching some film and reading some scouting reports on Sullinger I'm pretty down on his potential. The guy has great skill and girth but his lack of lift is going to hurt his ability to finish around the rim at the NBA level.

Here's a note on my personal draft binky from Swishscout re the Combine:

Draymond Green looked svelte in workouts, dropping some weight and getting in shape to get ready for the league. Apparently a lot of team statisticians love him because of his efficiency and impact based on his numbers at Michigan State. Here's a link to his highlight video on swishscout:

http://youtu.be/2lumD3NIVZQ


I'm no Red Aurbach, but for what it's worth. I spoke with Chad Ford this weekend and he says the ESPN stats crew has Green as one of the highest rated players by their advanced analytical formulas...ever.


I've been in favor of Draymond Green over Royce White, based on stats/scouting Green seems like he is at least as good, at least has almost as much upside, is in a similar mold, and lacks question marks off-court (nbadraft.net cites "a number" of off court incidents in White's past, and frankly if he is so good where was the buzz the first two years after he graduated HS?). And Royce White's 1.8 A/TO ratio in conference play this season was real impressive regardless of context (in comparison to other player who could be considered bigs), but Draymond Green's 1.8 A/TO ratio in conference play his junior season was probably more impressive.

Anyways I was just sitting down @ happy hour with a friend who isn't a big NBA fan but follows college bball much moreso than I do. We were talking about the draft and he volunteered his opinion on Draymond Green, he actually said that Green reminded him of Magic Johnson, b/c he could do everything. I am not putting nearly enough stock in his opinion to buy into that but I do see a growing consensus here.

fwiw that guy follows the Pac 10 more than any other conference, and had expected Isaiah Thomas to be a good pro. He had previously told me he liked Wroten more than Ross, today he made it clear that he really likes Wroten.


Very interesting. Watch Draymond Green speak and tell me he doesn't remind you of Paul Pierce? I'm telling people right now that he's going to be a pro's pro and there would be no better place and no better color for him than here in Boston rocking the Green.

If the Celtics get Wroten and Draymond in this draft they'll have to put Danny under arrest for randomly issuing the sleeper hold to GM's around the league.
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Re: Celtics will pick 21 and 22 The Draft Thread

Postby threrf23 on Fri Jun 08, 2012 9:20 pm

humblebum wrote:
Very interesting. Watch Draymond Green speak and tell me he doesn't remind you of Paul Pierce? I'm telling people right now that he's going to be a pro's pro and there would be no better place and no better color for him than here in Boston rocking the Green.


Completely. Just looked up an interview and I didn't have to listen to him for more than 10 seconds.
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Re: Celtics will pick 21 and 22 The Draft Thread

Postby jfs1000d on Fri Jun 08, 2012 9:25 pm

I like Draymond Green. I think he goes before 20. As far as Green vs. White, like both, let the tape decide.
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Re: Celtics will pick 21 and 22 The Draft Thread

Postby humblebum on Fri Jun 08, 2012 9:36 pm

jfs1000d wrote:I like Draymond Green. I think he goes before 20. As far as Green vs. White, like both, let the tape decide.


Ya it's a bummer. I've been having this feeling that, man, there's no way this dude doesn't get drafted earlier. I can't be the only one seeing what he's doing out on the court. With those measurements it's a done deal. He's Brandon Bass, mixed with Paul Millsap, mixed with Paul Pierce. And dude plays physical and with passion. And he loves basketball and is a student of the game...

He's probably made Tom Izzo a happy coach for the past four seasons.
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Re: Celtics will pick 21 and 22 The Draft Thread

Postby Banks2Pierce on Fri Jun 08, 2012 9:48 pm

Co-sign with you guys on Draymond. I got to log a few of his games for Synergy this season and he's going to make an impact in this league.
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Re: Celtics will pick 21 and 22 The Draft Thread

Postby CelticFaninLBC on Fri Jun 08, 2012 11:13 pm

Sounds like Quincy Miller didn't do well at the draft combine. He was missing his shots and his wingspan measurement was 7'1.25, instead of his alleged 7'4 wingspan, which is still good for a sf, but not Durantlike..
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Re: Celtics will pick 21 and 22 The Draft Thread

Postby gobbles03 on Sat Jun 09, 2012 12:01 am

Royce white if he's there, and The best available Center is the way to go. Boston has Rondo at the point, so there set there. They also have Bradley at the 2 spot, so there set there. Pierce for atleast what 2 more years. Royce can fit in nice at the 4 spot while he learns to play on the perimeter. Boston needs a starter at center also.
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Re: Celtics will pick 21 and 22 The Draft Thread

Postby Celtsfan1980 on Sat Jun 09, 2012 7:41 am

Has Ainge been this much involved with top prospects in past years? If not, it leads me to believe he's at least looking at trading up.
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Re: Celtics will pick 21 and 22 The Draft Thread

Postby Banks2Pierce on Sat Jun 09, 2012 8:02 am

Celtsfan1980 wrote:Has Ainge been this much involved with top prospects in past years? If not, it leads me to believe he's at least looking at trading up.


He's usually in the mix. The agents sometimes get in the way of him interviewing/working out top guys, but he generally will make some phone calls on draft day. We offered Perk for #2 a few years ago.
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Re: Celtics will pick 21 and 22 The Draft Thread

Postby Gant on Sat Jun 09, 2012 8:45 am

The post combine mocks are starting to trickle out and they all have Leonard above Zeller so far.
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