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Re: Jeff Green - Fat Lady Sings - Deal Official - Page 8

Postby ermocrate on Sun Aug 26, 2012 5:19 am

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Rajon Rondo Fan wrote:This is so good for us, I hope green can defend LeBron in the conference finals.


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He can't.

But the C's can still beat MIA if they play well as a team, and contribute in unison.

If he's willing to defend He has the speed and the body to stop him, you'll never know until He gets the "Garnett's world famous treatment" since the training Camp... 8-)
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Re: Jeff Green - Fat Lady Sings - Deal Official - Page 8

Postby ermocrate on Sun Aug 26, 2012 5:23 am

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Re: Jeff Green - Fat Lady Sings - Deal Official - Page 8

Postby GreenKnight0028 on Sun Aug 26, 2012 10:06 am

Great news! Can't wait for the season to start!

Always loved seeing him jet up the court with Rondo after a rebound
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Re: Jeff Green - Fat Lady Sings - Deal Official - Page 8

Postby humblebum on Sun Aug 26, 2012 11:19 am

Whether Green can or can't defend Bron the reality is that there is no player better equipped to do so on this roster. I believe Green can be a Boston version of Luol Deng defensively, but even if he falls short of that he can eat minutes against all the elite wings and he gives you another player to throw at perimeter oriented bigs.
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Re: Jeff Green - Fat Lady Sings - Deal Official - Page 8

Postby darrendaye on Wed Sep 05, 2012 9:05 am

I didn't see this posted anywhere, so I felt it best to put it here. Apparently the Green contract contains a PLAYER option for the 4th year.

http://www.hoopsworld.com/boston-celtics-team-salary/

I'm hopeful he can live up to it, but I have to say I'm perplexed why Ainge had to provide Green the protection and not the team on that 4th year. I still think the move to resign Green had to be made, but Ainge's negotiating skills left something to be desired here.
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Re: Jeff Green - Fat Lady Sings - Deal Official - Page 8

Postby Bluewhale on Wed Sep 05, 2012 9:42 am

I am not happy with the final year player option, either.

But it could also mean we may have more cap space at 2015 summer.
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Re: Jeff Green - Fat Lady Sings - Deal Official - Page 8

Postby Slartibartfast on Wed Sep 05, 2012 11:38 am

darrendaye wrote:I didn't see this posted anywhere, so I felt it best to put it here. Apparently the Green contract contains a PLAYER option for the 4th year.

http://www.hoopsworld.com/boston-celtics-team-salary/

I'm hopeful he can live up to it, but I have to say I'm perplexed why Ainge had to provide Green the protection and not the team on that 4th year. I still think the move to resign Green had to be made, but Ainge's negotiating skills left something to be desired here.


I think Green's agent knew the position Danny was in and took him for all he was worth. Once we decided to forgo the cap space route and try and reload, we lost the flexibility to play anything resembling hard ball with Green. He wasn't restricted, we couldn't sign and trade him, we couldn't free up our MLE in a JET sign and trade... so it was either approach Green's asking price or scrounge the bargain bin.

Pretty amazing how Carl Landry, who agreed to a pretty similar deal to Green last year and actually played (and played pretty well) last year, ends up with 2 years, $8 mil, while Green hops off the operating table to snag 4/$36.
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Re: Jeff Green - Fat Lady Sings - Deal Official - Page 8

Postby thebigfour on Thu Sep 06, 2012 2:36 am

humblebum wrote:Whether Green can or can't defend Bron the reality is that there is no player better equipped to do so on this roster. I believe Green can be a Boston version of Luol Deng defensively, but even if he falls short of that he can eat minutes against all the elite wings and he gives you another player to throw at perimeter oriented bigs.


I agree Green will be our best bet to guard lebron he has the size and speed to do so. I think with more time with KG he'l improve the way perkins learned. I like Greens new attitude where he realizes he lacked aggressiveness and will work on his weaknesses. All KG needs from teammates are physical gifts and the right attitude.
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Re: Jeff Green - Fat Lady Sings - Deal Official - Page 8

Postby tombattor on Thu Sep 06, 2012 9:50 am

Green certainly has the size and quickness to give Lebron the most trouble among the players on the Celtics, but it's foolish to think Jeff Green can actually stop Lebron or even slow him down without a lot of help from the rest of the team.
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Re: Jeff Green - Fat Lady Sings - Deal Official - Page 8

Postby RondoToKG on Fri Sep 07, 2012 5:49 pm

Seriously, why is Jeff getting 9 million a year? I don't understand that. It bothers me. Would he just not sign if we didn't do it? Were other teams willing to give him the same amount? In comparison to other players that are on his level he is making twice the money.

If this was already explained point me in the right direction. I just don't see him as a 9 million a year player.
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Re: Jeff Green - Fat Lady Sings - Deal Official - Page 8

Postby FingerRoll on Mon Sep 10, 2012 8:41 pm

GreenKnight0028 wrote:Great news! Can't wait for the season to start!

Always loved seeing him jet up the court with Rondo after a rebound




Hopefully we see more of this.
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Re: Jeff Green - Fat Lady Sings - Deal Official - Page 8

Postby greenmachine_2849 on Tue Sep 11, 2012 1:22 am

Slartibartfast wrote:I think Green's agent knew the position Danny was in and took him for all he was worth. Once we decided to forgo the cap space route and try and reload, we lost the flexibility to play anything resembling hard ball with Green. He wasn't restricted, we couldn't sign and trade him, we couldn't free up our MLE in a JET sign and trade... so it was either approach Green's asking price or scrounge the bargain bin.

Pretty amazing how Carl Landry, who agreed to a pretty similar deal to Green last year and actually played (and played pretty well) last year, ends up with 2 years, $8 mil, while Green hops off the operating table to snag 4/$36.


The thing is, though, that Ainge put himself in this position. He had the option of retaining Green's restricted free agent status and chose to renounce it. I know some people on the board argued it was a no-brainer to do so, as it allegedly gave the Celtics more cap room to sign free agents this summer, but we all know how that went. Instead, by no longer having Green as a restricted free agent, Ainge was forced to bid against, not just other teams, but also the threat (real or imaginary) of Green leaving without being compensated for at all. So, he basically had to overpay in order to ensure that he stayed with the Celtics, and it probably cost the Celtics an additional $10 million over the course of the contract, imo.

Ainge as a general manager certainly has his strengths, but he has always been severely lacking in the free agency area...
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Re: Jeff Green - Fat Lady Sings - Deal Official - Page 8

Postby Bluewhale on Tue Sep 11, 2012 1:35 am

I doubt the team could keep Jeff Green's restricted free agent up to this summer.

I am not the CBA/LAW expert about it, but I suspect that if they don't renounce the right, then the team is obligated to pay Jeff Green the quality offer at 2011-2012, no matter Jeff could play or could not play at 2011-2012 season.
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