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aim2please wrote:[tweet]https://twitter.com/Selzwood/status/617074547976581120[/tweet]
I bet LMA gained 15 pounds from all these lunches he's had in the last few days. Maybe it's Pop's plan to make him gain weight so he's forced to play center
LarryBirdsFingr wrote:Redemption. Water into wine....rondo is Jesus
LarryBirdsFingr wrote:Redemption. Water into wine....rondo is Jesus
ConstableGeneva wrote:[tweet]https://twitter.com/ArashMarkazi/status/617077317786042368[/tweet]
So THAT'S why Ainge is saving all that cap space. #BlakeToBoston
celticgreenie wrote:Remember when Danny Ainge was trying to offer Rondo an extension? Now he has to settle for a one year deal. I'd fire his agent for that.
“Rumor has it that Rondo has asked for a $100 million extension,” Maxwell told Yahoo! Sports Radio.
Marley2Hendrix wrote:Humble, what I took from the Aim post was that you are quick to assimilate to changing circumstances, and I appreciate that you try to reframe negative outcomes in a positive light. That tendency is much appreciated by me, though I get why others may (imo mis-) perceive it as you flip flopping on issues.
Ben-N1ce wrote:celticgreenie wrote:Remember when Danny Ainge was trying to offer Rondo an extension? Now he has to settle for a one year deal. I'd fire his agent for that.
Last year“Rumor has it that Rondo has asked for a $100 million extension,” Maxwell told Yahoo! Sports Radio.
@deanondraft: Felton + 2018 + 2020 1sts + filler is very mutually beneficial. Lawson ties the Mavs' roster together real well https://t.co/W3uqKxR5hz
humblebum wrote:Marley2Hendrix wrote:Humble, what I took from the Aim post was that you are quick to assimilate to changing circumstances, and I appreciate that you try to reframe negative outcomes in a positive light. That tendency is much appreciated by me, though I get why others may (imo mis-) perceive it as you flip flopping on issues.
Isn't assimilating changing circumstances exactly what you do as a scout, GM, player or coach? That's the only thing. It's the "fixators" that paint themselves as realistic, create some entrenched view point, that everyone else stands inferior to. If you don't pre-select exactly what you want to see happen, and are willing to be flexible, in my experience, means that person is a sound thinker. The "realist" "entrenched into a singular view point" is really just a pessimist with a degree and a day job.
People are too simpleminded. It's like they can't hold the two ideas in their heads at the same time, so they assume that no one else could possibly have two possible paths to follow that he will be happy with, regardless of what circumstances transpire. I can love Winslow enough to want to trade up for him in the draft, but not love him so much that I choose him over building a fundamental core system from which to move forward, and taking the "multiple swings at the plate" approach to the draft. I was ALWAYS comfortable with both things... so that's not reactionary. That's me saying plan A is "get Winslow, or Cauley-Stein or Stanley Johnson, or Myles Turner or Devin Booker", plan B is get guys who you like at 16, 28 and 33 and see what you got. Do I think that those players from group A have higher upside? In some cases, yes. Some of those guys just seemed like really sure things, like Winslow because you know he's tough, high character, and he defends. Now, if Ainge went in there and drafted Frank Kaminsky and Jerian Grant I would be slitting my wrists right now.
That's not a reactionary stance... that legit pre-meditated flexibility to flow between either A or B preceding the draft... And everything I said I said about Winslow is true. I loved him pre draft hype, just based on his Duke performance. The measurements soured me on him (being a role player type offensively in the halfcourt is fine when I'm thinking he's 6'8" but not quite as sexy when he looks more 6'5"), I looked at other guys and eventually came back to my initial gut feeling that he could be that Smart type, who could overcome a lack of skill with great physicality, emotion and leadership.
I don't even mind the hate. I was the one of the lone Rondo realists on this board for most of the last 7-8 years. Trust me, I've learned how to take a beating on this board from fools and blowhards. A few of them done been vanquished in those debates at my hands... and they're still sticking around too.
Captain_Caveman wrote:humblebum wrote:Marley2Hendrix wrote:Humble, what I took from the Aim post was that you are quick to assimilate to changing circumstances, and I appreciate that you try to reframe negative outcomes in a positive light. That tendency is much appreciated by me, though I get why others may (imo mis-) perceive it as you flip flopping on issues.
Isn't assimilating changing circumstances exactly what you do as a scout, GM, player or coach? That's the only thing. It's the "fixators" that paint themselves as realistic, create some entrenched view point, that everyone else stands inferior to. If you don't pre-select exactly what you want to see happen, and are willing to be flexible, in my experience, means that person is a sound thinker. The "realist" "entrenched into a singular view point" is really just a pessimist with a degree and a day job.
People are too simpleminded. It's like they can't hold the two ideas in their heads at the same time, so they assume that no one else could possibly have two possible paths to follow that he will be happy with, regardless of what circumstances transpire. I can love Winslow enough to want to trade up for him in the draft, but not love him so much that I choose him over building a fundamental core system from which to move forward, and taking the "multiple swings at the plate" approach to the draft. I was ALWAYS comfortable with both things... so that's not reactionary. That's me saying plan A is "get Winslow, or Cauley-Stein or Stanley Johnson, or Myles Turner or Devin Booker", plan B is get guys who you like at 16, 28 and 33 and see what you got. Do I think that those players from group A have higher upside? In some cases, yes. Some of those guys just seemed like really sure things, like Winslow because you know he's tough, high character, and he defends. Now, if Ainge went in there and drafted Frank Kaminsky and Jerian Grant I would be slitting my wrists right now.
That's not a reactionary stance... that legit pre-meditated flexibility to flow between either A or B preceding the draft... And everything I said I said about Winslow is true. I loved him pre draft hype, just based on his Duke performance. The measurements soured me on him (being a role player type offensively in the halfcourt is fine when I'm thinking he's 6'8" but not quite as sexy when he looks more 6'5"), I looked at other guys and eventually came back to my initial gut feeling that he could be that Smart type, who could overcome a lack of skill with great physicality, emotion and leadership.
I don't even mind the hate. I was the one of the lone Rondo realists on this board for most of the last 7-8 years. Trust me, I've learned how to take a beating on this board from fools and blowhards. A few of them done been vanquished in those debates at my hands... and they're still sticking around too.
Nah. You went all-in on the fact that we were going to have this great offseason not only without tanking, but because we didn't tank. You were very adamant about this, and spoke in absolute terms devoid of nuance. Anyone who didn't agree didn't understand basketball. Fact it didn't pan out seems to be everyone else's fault but your own.
I'm over it, but come on. You can't be that over the top and then not own it when it blows up on you.
As to Rondo, I'll own being too high on his market value, but keep in mind I was proactive about wanting to trade him for whatever we could get for a year and a half before he got dealt. I do think he and Green were our two best players back in December when I made the comment (you seem to be trying to put them below a bunch of players who weren't on the team yet), and more importantly, guy was a total gamer for us for a good 5-6 year stretch -- and especially in big games. No one gets to rewrite history on that.
