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Post#1361 » by 165bows » Mon Feb 8, 2016 5:16 pm

jmr07019 wrote:I'm on the pro-Bender side of the debate above. There is certainly risk with him but there is risk with all the American players projected to go 3-7. I'll gamble on the young 7'er with 3 point range a lots of skill.

Same. It's a fairly uninformed guess for me but a broad base of offensive capabilities, great length and defensive versatility is where the league is at right now. Probably won't be a great scorer but I don't think they are getting that in this draft outside of maybe Ingram.
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Re: Official Draft Thread 2015-16 

Post#1362 » by Slartibartfast » Mon Feb 8, 2016 5:45 pm

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jmr07019 wrote:I'm on the pro-Bender side of the debate above. There is certainly risk with him but there is risk with all the American players projected to go 3-7. I'll gamble on the young 7'er with 3 point range a lots of skill.

Same. It's a fairly uninformed guess for me but a broad base of offensive capabilities, great length and defensive versatility is where the league is at right now. Probably won't be a great scorer but I don't think they are getting that in this draft outside of maybe Ingram.


I think Simmons has a decent amount of scoring potential. That quickness at the mid-post will be very difficult for PFs to contain if he can add a strong mid-range J.
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Re: Official Draft Thread 2015-16 

Post#1363 » by peachbucket » Tue Feb 9, 2016 12:00 am

165bows wrote:
jmr07019 wrote:I'm on the pro-Bender side of the debate above. There is certainly risk with him but there is risk with all the American players projected to go 3-7. I'll gamble on the young 7'er with 3 point range a lots of skill.

Same. It's a fairly uninformed guess for me but a broad base of offensive capabilities, great length and defensive versatility is where the league is at right now. Probably won't be a great scorer but I don't think they are getting that in this draft outside of maybe Ingram.


Im definitely pro Bender...he has elite tools and seems to have the psychological makeup to become a star.

As of now, I only see 4 player with star potential (Simmons, Ingram, Bender, and Dunn) which is why Brooklyn finishing worse than Phoenix is so important if we don't move up in the lotto. Hopefully another name will emerge in the NCAA tourney.
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Post#1364 » by robbie84 » Tue Feb 9, 2016 5:10 am

I'm just hoping Bender isnt Mirotic 2.0

I want ingram ahead of Bender though.

I wonder if Danny would trade the #1 pick for Ingram and Bender. That would be an amazing PF SF combo to build around and more chance.of having at least one of them be an elite player.
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Post#1365 » by gocelts » Tue Feb 9, 2016 2:02 pm

So many over hyped Euros bust out and now with the Knicks hitting on Prozingas I think everyone is assuming that Bender will be just as good. Cant say I have an opinion on him since I've never seen him play but I for one am not confident enough to risk a top 5 pick on him based off of his minutes and stats. Cant assume hes going to be as good, and other players have been terrible risks.

Scorers like Simmons, Ingram, Brown, Dunn, and Heild, then forwards like Davis & Rabb should be considered before taking a risk on Bender. Just my opinion. All that said, Danny knows what he's doing....sort of..
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Post#1366 » by Leprechaun18 » Wed Feb 10, 2016 6:59 am

I dont think Bender is worth a top 5 pick! He has that type of potential but has not shown that type of talent. Also his contract with his current team will require a huge buyout. He will fall and then DA can get him with a later pick and let him mature a year while his buyout becomes easier.
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Post#1367 » by return2glory » Thu Feb 11, 2016 6:38 am

Ellenson and Hield are moving into my top 5.
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Post#1368 » by Shamrock » Thu Feb 11, 2016 2:53 pm

I'll be happy with any one of Simmons, Bender, Dunn, Ingram. I have to say Bender fits into what were trying to do here. With a great deal of shooting potential, offensive versatility, defensive versatility and passing ability. The most impressive part of his game to me is his mobility, he run's like a guard. Would be a perfect player to put next to a player like Sully. Seems like he has a killer instinct
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Post#1369 » by Celtsfan1980 » Thu Feb 11, 2016 3:13 pm

Do we get more TV time with a top 2 pick?
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Post#1370 » by Gomes3PC » Thu Feb 11, 2016 3:13 pm

Ellenson just allowed his opposing big to drop 42 points against him. For all his length and size advantages in college, he's been a pretty crummy defender. That's what scares me with him. He's super skilled, rebounds pretty well, and can stretch defenses once his jumper gets a bit more reliable. But if he can't pick it up defensively a bit more, it's gonna be hard to justify picking him top-5.
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Post#1371 » by 24istheLAW » Thu Feb 11, 2016 4:36 pm

@MazzESPN "I'm helping build this team. Hey, I might be the reason they get Ben Simmons." Paul Pierce on the #Celtics


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Post#1372 » by No-Man » Thu Feb 11, 2016 5:09 pm

Gomes3PC wrote:Ellenson just allowed his opposing big to drop 42 points against him. For all his length and size advantages in college, he's been a pretty crummy defender. That's what scares me with him. He's super skilled, rebounds pretty well, and can stretch defenses once his jumper gets a bit more reliable. But if he can't pick it up defensively a bit more, it's gonna be hard to justify picking him top-5.

He moves like an old man, he is going to have to develop into a stretch 5 in my mind, he definetely has the size at 6'10/6'11 and a 9'0 reach to pull it off, he needs to bulk up and work on his upper body, but I dont see him playing the PF honestly.
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Post#1373 » by shawn unkempt » Thu Feb 11, 2016 6:38 pm

Anybody been monitoring Jaylen Brown this season? Is he a good consolation prize if BK falls to 5?
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Re: Official Draft Thread 2015-16 

Post#1374 » by Murta » Thu Feb 11, 2016 6:57 pm

shawn unkempt wrote:Anybody been monitoring Jaylen Brown this season? Is he a good consolation prize if BK falls to 5?


Absolutely. He's a poor poor shooter, but he's decent in other categories, athletic as hell, especially attacking the basket, good size. He can defend when he wants to. People have been comparing him to DeRozan. I think Brown is the type of player Stevens can mold into at least a quasi-star if Brown would be willing to learn.

His bad case scenario is something like Terrence Ross, which is not a bad player at #5.
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Post#1375 » by 24istheLAW » Thu Feb 11, 2016 7:11 pm

Murta wrote:
shawn unkempt wrote:Anybody been monitoring Jaylen Brown this season? Is he a good consolation prize if BK falls to 5?


Absolutely. He's a poor poor shooter, but he's decent in other categories, athletic as hell, especially attacking the basket, good size. He can defend when he wants to. People have been comparing him to DeRozan. I think Brown is the type of player Stevens can mold into at least a quasi-star if Brown would be willing to learn.

His bad case scenario is something like Terrence Ross, which is not a bad player at #5.


Terrence Ross is a very good catch & shoot guy though. Jaylen Brown is a non-shooter at this stage.

I wouldn't draft him high to be honest. I know people are looking for the next Kawhi/Paul George/Jimmy Butler 3&D late bloomer but its more likely he's Gerald Green than one of those guys.
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Post#1376 » by Gomes3PC » Thu Feb 11, 2016 8:05 pm

Jamal Murray is starting to really heat up. 20 PPG, 5 RPG, 1.7 APG, 1.3 SPG, 1.8 TO/G on 46/41/79 shooting in his last 12 games.

He probably falls in between our Nets pick and when the C's/Mavs picks are but someone to keep an eye on. He's a guy who can legit create for himself on the wing, which is something we could use at SG long-term.
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Post#1377 » by Murta » Thu Feb 11, 2016 8:16 pm

24istheLAW wrote:
Murta wrote:
shawn unkempt wrote:Anybody been monitoring Jaylen Brown this season? Is he a good consolation prize if BK falls to 5?


Absolutely. He's a poor poor shooter, but he's decent in other categories, athletic as hell, especially attacking the basket, good size. He can defend when he wants to. People have been comparing him to DeRozan. I think Brown is the type of player Stevens can mold into at least a quasi-star if Brown would be willing to learn.

His bad case scenario is something like Terrence Ross, which is not a bad player at #5.


Terrence Ross is a very good catch & shoot guy though. Jaylen Brown is a non-shooter at this stage.

I wouldn't draft him high to be honest. I know people are looking for the next Kawhi/Paul George/Jimmy Butler 3&D late bloomer but its more likely he's Gerald Green than one of those guys.


I just think Stevens can squeeze out a lot from Brown even in the case Brown doesn't improve his shooting. If we didn't have Stevens, I'd want no part of Brown.
IMO, Brown is not a Kawhi/Butler/MKG/Winslow type of player by playing profile, I think he's better offensively and worse defensively than those guys entering the league.
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Post#1378 » by Wes-J » Fri Feb 12, 2016 5:38 am

Murta wrote:
shawn unkempt wrote:Anybody been monitoring Jaylen Brown this season? Is he a good consolation prize if BK falls to 5?


Absolutely. He's a poor poor shooter, but he's decent in other categories, athletic as hell, especially attacking the basket, good size. He can defend when he wants to. People have been comparing him to DeRozan. I think Brown is the type of player Stevens can mold into at least a quasi-star if Brown would be willing to learn.

His bad case scenario is something like Terrence Ross, which is not a bad player at #5.


Can't help but think his ceiling is Tyreke Evans. Hope he's more but that ain't all bad.
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Post#1379 » by pootbrah » Fri Feb 12, 2016 1:50 pm

jakob poeltl or skal lab would go alright if simmons/ingrim/bender arent available
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Post#1380 » by brackdan70 » Fri Feb 12, 2016 2:32 pm

pootbrah wrote:jakob poeltl or skal lab would go alright if simmons/ingrim/bender arent available


I like Poeltl. I have to think Skal stays in an other year. He is getting pretty minimal PT and not really lighting it up when does get in.
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