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Draftees 2016 – Brown, Yabusele, Žižić, Jackson, Nader

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Re: Draftees 2016 – Brown, Yabusele, Žižić, Jackson, Nader 

Post#1521 » by Fencer reregistered » Fri May 12, 2017 9:13 am

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Austin Ainge gives the impression the G, as he calls him, can be a defensive stopper.

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The most interesting generality to me was what A. Ainge said about modern PFs -- they need to be able to defend inside and rebound, but offensively they need to be like guards, able to dribble, pass and shoot.
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Re: Draftees 2016 – Brown, Yabusele, Žižić, Jackson, Nader 

Post#1522 » by Cibos » Fri May 12, 2017 9:53 am

After putting together one of the greatest seasons by a teenager in European basketball history, Luka Doncic of Real Madrid was the unanimous choice of Turkish Airlines EuroLeague head coaches to win the EuroLeague Rising Star Trophy for the 2016-17 season. The Rising Star Trophy recognizes the best EuroLeague player each season who was under the age of 22 on July 1 of the summer before the season started. After making his debut in the competition and becoming a regular time contributor with Madrid a year ago, Doncic made the transformation into true EuroLeague star despite only turning 18 years of age during the course of this season. Not only did Doncic become the youngest player to ever claim MVP of the Round honors, he went on to do so four times this season, which was second most in the competition, as he helped lead Los Blancos to the Final Four next week in Istanbul.

Darussafaka Dogus Istanbul center Ante Zizic was second in the voting, while Marko Guduric of Crvena Zvezda mts Belgrade and Ilimane Diop of Baskonia Vitoria Gasteiz tied for the third-most votes. The Rising Star Trophy is one of several end-of-season honors awarded by Euroleague Basketball. Earlier in the week, Unics Kazan guard Keith Langford was named the recipient of the 2016-17 Alphonso Ford Top Scorer Trophy and Adam Hanga of Baskonia was selected as Best Defender Trophy winner. The All-EuroLeague honorees will be announced later this week. The identity of the 2016-17 EuroLeague MVP will be revealed at the Final Four, between May 18 and 21 in Istanbul. The Alexander Gomelskiy Coach of the Year Trophy and the EuroLeague Club Executive of the Year are post-season awards.


It is worth mentioning that Ante played his first game in round 15 (out of 30 in the regular season), so he missed the first half of the regular season.
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Re: Draftees 2016 – Brown, Yabusele, Žižić, Jackson, Nader 

Post#1523 » by 165bows » Fri May 12, 2017 11:17 am

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Austin Ainge gives the impression the G, as he calls him, can be a defensive stopper.

I approve of that message.


The most interesting generality to me was what A. Ainge said about modern PFs -- they need to be able to defend inside and rebound, but offensively they need to be like guards, able to dribble, pass and shoot.

And pretty much always need to have some basic perimeter defense skills as well. I agree that was a noteworthy part of the interview, how demanding the current 4 position is to play.
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Re: Draftees 2016 – Brown, Yabusele, Žižić, Jackson, Nader 

Post#1524 » by 3D Chess » Fri May 12, 2017 12:20 pm

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After putting together one of the greatest seasons by a teenager in European basketball history, Luka Doncic of Real Madrid was the unanimous choice of Turkish Airlines EuroLeague head coaches to win the EuroLeague Rising Star Trophy for the 2016-17 season.

Darussafaka Dogus Istanbul center Ante Zizic was second in the voting,


It is worth mentioning that Ante played his first game in round 15 (out of 30 in the regular season), so he missed the first half of the regular season.

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Post#1525 » by Gant » Tue May 16, 2017 8:53 pm

Zizic had 10 points on 5-8, along with 8 rebounds in 21 minutes in Darussafaka's win today over Best Balikesir.

http://www.eurobasket.com/boxScores/Turkey/2017/0516_195_4713.asp
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Post#1526 » by Elrod is Back » Tue May 16, 2017 10:41 pm

There are playoffs in the Turkish League and Ante's squad will be a favorite. They have won like 9 in a row.

The quarterfinals begin in a week. http://basketball.eurobasket.com/team/Turkey/Darussafaka-Dogus-Istanbul/195?Page=2

Should be over well before summer league.
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Post#1527 » by Zaschrona » Wed May 17, 2017 3:34 pm

Elrod is Back wrote:There are playoffs in the Turkish League and Ante's squad will be a favorite. They have won like 9 in a row.

The quarterfinals begin in a week. http://basketball.eurobasket.com/team/Turkey/Darussafaka-Dogus-Istanbul/195?Page=2

Should be over well before summer league.

Even if it takes 7 matches in their Finals, it should be over before NBA playoffs. They play best of 3 in quaterfinals, best of 5 in semis and the finals are played as best of 7.
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Post#1528 » by pasfru » Fri May 19, 2017 3:16 pm

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Post#1529 » by Elrod is Back » Fri May 19, 2017 4:13 pm

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That is high praise because this is generally considered one of the deeper lotteries in a while.
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Post#1530 » by BleedGreen1989 » Fri May 19, 2017 4:24 pm

I was just getting ready to make an Official Zizic Thread and saw this one.

Really excited about this kid.

I think he's going to fit like a glove on this roster.
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Post#1531 » by London2Boston » Fri May 19, 2017 4:45 pm

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That is high praise because this is generally considered one of the deeper lotteries in a while.


That's essentially #1 Pick, top 10, and a mid first rounder all coming in next year. Ainge is unreal.
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Post#1532 » by ConstableGeneva » Mon May 22, 2017 4:20 pm

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Post#1533 » by 3D Chess » Mon May 22, 2017 4:33 pm

Foot injuries and surgeries scare me, but it seems like these were pretty minor procedures.

Anyone here know much about bone spurs?

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Re: Draftees 2016 – Brown, Yabusele, Žižić, Jackson, Nader 

Post#1534 » by CeltsfaninDC » Mon May 22, 2017 4:35 pm

Someone needs to get him some tape of Charles Barkley playing while he is rehabbing.
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Re: Draftees 2016 – Brown, Yabusele, Žižić, Jackson, Nader 

Post#1535 » by Elrod is Back » Mon May 22, 2017 6:01 pm

This is a bummer, but does not seem too serious. More time to Ante Up for the summer league team. Maybe Jordan Mickey will show up to try and salvage his career.
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Re: Draftees 2016 – Brown, Yabusele, Žižić, Jackson, Nader 

Post#1536 » by NormanDale » Tue May 23, 2017 10:59 am

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I feel vindicated for writing this a few weeks ago!

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Interesting. So you're seeing a future all star with Zizic?


I'm not sure about his future, but I'm hopeful. I do look over the past two decades and see that 20 year olds with a fraction of his euroleague production are usually mid- to high-lottery picks. His euroleague highlights are also more impressive than most of those past players.

I think if he were in the draft this year he'd be considered just below the fultz-ball-jackson tier, and would be drafted in the 4-8 range. Given that we dont know whether the 2018 brooklyn pick will be another top selection or slightly lower, i think that's not as valuable as zizic right now.
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