Jrue Holiday trade makes the Pelicans the biggest winner

[IMAN5]

...of last night's draft.

An absolute steal. An all star pg, franchise type player, for a #8 pick. absolutely amazing for you guys, huge steal.

I'm not a fan of the team, I'm from Toronto, but I love the rebranding and pelicans and everything. And pair that with anthony Davis and now Jrue + all the other good little pieces you guys have. Could be the start of something big.

[SJSF]

Sixers fan here. Please don't get over excited. He is a solid pg. But not a franchise guy that is as good as the elite PGs. He also turns the ball over way too much. He fell apart at the end of the season. But we all loved Jrue as a Sixers fan. A real class act. But not a star player and probably won't get to another all-star game ever again. He only went because of the injuries in the east. Good luck

[PhilasFinest]

Yea quite the overreaction by Iman.

Holiday is a solid you g guard, but he's not a franchise player and honestly, not a likely perennial Allstar either.
He put up decent #'s on a crappy team and made the Allstar game because Rose,Rondo,Wall were hurt and Dwill had a rough start to the year.

Quality player and good kid tho...decent pickup. AD is still there best bet at a "star" player, because holiday likely isn't...will b better off in a 2nd/3rd fiddle type of role.

[karkinos]

i like holiday. i think he fits monty williams' style perfectly.

i hate, hate, hate trading next year's draft pick, especially a first rounder. that's straight up absurd.

if you're trading jrue for noel, at best i will throw in a 2nd rounder (this year or next year's draft). no way in hell i give up my first rounder.

silver lining, pierre jackson is a steal for getting him late in the 2nd round. i think he will contribute solid minutes.

[dukeknicksirish]

But I like this deal...... Go after Asik, if Dwight signs with Houston, in a trade and you have a playoff team

-Maybe offer Anderson and a 2nd for Asik?

5.Asik
4.Davis
3.Aminu
2.Gordon
1.Holiday

[JoeyH]

But I like this deal...... Go after Asik, if Dwight signs with Houston, in a trade and you have a playoff team

-Maybe offer Anderson and a 2nd for Asik?

5.Asik
4.Davis
3.Aminu
2.Gordon
1.Holiday

Switch Aminu with a 3 that can shoot a la Budinger, D. Wright, or Webster and I love that line-up. Defensive potential is cray

[NO-KG-AI]

I really like the trade. If we overestimated our talent, get racked with injuries, etc, we still get a top 5 pick, and if we play well, we don't really need a mid-late first anyway...

Jrue isn't a franchise player to me at all, but he's the type of PG that can fit any type of offense. Letting him split ball handling duties, spot up, and use his size defensively is going to benefit him and the team. I don't think he'll have as many responsibilities as he had in Philly, which will work for him.

[minimus]

I really like the trade. If we overestimated our talent, get racked with injuries, etc, we still get a top 5 pick, and if we play well, we don't really need a mid-late first anyway...

Jrue isn't a franchise player to me at all, but he's the type of PG that can fit any type of offense. Letting him split ball handling duties, spot up, and use his size defensively is going to benefit him and the team. I don't think he'll have as many responsibilities as he had in Philly, which will work for him.

Exactly, now Pelicans can trade both Gordon and Vasquez (although I'd prefer to keep him and resign for reasonable price), sign Tyreke Evans and Iggy. Because Jrue can co-exist with everyone. Find backup PF and shooter: DeJuan Blair, Elton Brand, Morrow, Bellineli, Webster.

Lopez/Smith/Davis
Davis/Anderson/Smith
Iggy/Anderson/Miller
Evans/Rivers/Harris
Holiday/Vasquez/Roberts

The good thing is that with Anderson, Holiday, Davis spacing the floor Iggi and Evans has a plenty of room to operate.

[miltk]

this is a good deal for NO because noel will bust. he's a 8/7/1.5 man

and saying jrue is behind rondo rose dwill wall is not a bad thing,,,,is it.

[NO-KG-AI]

He's certainly a better player off the ball than Rondo, which might be more important. I don't want my offense built around Jrue or Rondo... and I definitely like Jrue better as a "piece" to an offense.

[nyc6]

I really like the trade. If we overestimated our talent, get racked with injuries, etc, we still get a top 5 pick, and if we play well, we don't really need a mid-late first anyway...

Jrue isn't a franchise player to me at all, but he's the type of PG that can fit any type of offense. Letting him split ball handling duties, spot up, and use his size defensively is going to benefit him and the team. I don't think he'll have as many responsibilities as he had in Philly, which will work for him.

Sixers go from 9th-10th seed to 13th seed

Pelicans go from 13th seed to 9th-10th seed

There is no question which direction makes more sense

Just a shortsighted move by NO that's completely discrediting its competition. West is stacked with 7 elite teams (if houston gets dwightn). POR, DAL, MIN and NO (possibly even LA or utah) will be fighting for the 8th seed

That's not a battle you want to be a part of

NO was in prime position to rest Noel, showcase EG and move him at deadline and tank for top 3-5 pick next year in strong draft

[karkinos]

the next move has to be getting Asik for Anderson

[F-Stop]

6ers fan here...
huge Holiday fan...
IMO U guys made an awesome trade and now that you have Evans that pick you gave up will fall to the back of the lottery or even out of the lottery.

Holiday not overating him is way beyond just a solid guy. he plays D. he can shoot his turnovers are exagerated due to the lack of shooters/talent on that 6ers team. With what you guys already have in place adding Holiday will get you wins. As others said he may not get another All star selection through individual stats but he will get one through wins...

Hopefully you guys get him a coach. He never had one in philly and look what he accomplished. Wall - Westbrook - Curry all have teachers. Holiday needs one.

[Broad+Pattison]

Why would you wanna be stuck as a 8-11th seed?

[R U Legit]

Why would you wanna be stuck as a 8-11th seed?

1) Everyone in this core is under 25. Stop assuming they won't improve

2) If Davis is as good as he is supposed to be, we would've gotten better regardless of whether we brought in Holiday or Evans

3) In 2011 the Pacers were the 8th seed, destroyed by CHI, In 2012 they took the Heat to 6 in the 2nd round, in 2013 they gave the Heat all they could handle and were one game away from the Finals... god forbid someone make the playoffs as an 8th seed

Furthermore, even if none of these moves work out, we still control Davis' fate for the next 8 years so, rest assured RealGM'er, we're guaranteed success

[minimus]

I guess it's time to get Gustavo Ayon. I'd like to have him as backup C/PF. Do Pelicans have money to offer him?


Davis/Smith/Stiemsma
Anderson/Smith/Ayon
Evans/Aminu/Morrow
Gordon/Rivers/Miller
Holiday/Roberts

[Go Magic]

I really like the trade. If we overestimated our talent, get racked with injuries, etc, we still get a top 5 pick, and if we play well, we don't really need a mid-late first anyway...

Jrue isn't a franchise player to me at all, but he's the type of PG that can fit any type of offense. Letting him split ball handling duties, spot up, and use his size defensively is going to benefit him and the team. I don't think he'll have as many responsibilities as he had in Philly, which will work for him.

Just a shortsighted move by NO that's completely discrediting its competition. West is stacked with 7 elite teams (if houston gets dwightn). POR, DAL, MIN and NO (possibly even LA or utah) will be fighting for the 8th seed

That's not a battle you want to be a part of

NO was in prime position to rest Noel, showcase EG and move him at deadline and tank for top 3-5 pick next year in strong draft

Now that we are down the road a little, this is exactly what I was thinking.

Now that the West is starting to take shape, do you NOP fans still like the Jrue trade? I understand being an 8 seed is not a horrible thing, but was Jrue worth Noel and what is looking like will be a pick in the 8-12 range?

Looking at it as an unbiased fan, I see Philly being in a pretty good position this coming offseason. Loads of money, nice young potential (Noel, Young, MCW, Turner, Wroten) PLUS the possibility of two top 10 picks in a loaded draft.
I don't know if I prefer to be an Orlando fan or Philly fan as both look to have bright futures.

Not to say NOP situation is bad, but do you guys regret that trade yet? Is Jrue making a huge difference like some thought?

[lordjeff05]

I really like the trade. If we overestimated our talent, get racked with injuries, etc, we still get a top 5 pick, and if we play well, we don't really need a mid-late first anyway...

Jrue isn't a franchise player to me at all, but he's the type of PG that can fit any type of offense. Letting him split ball handling duties, spot up, and use his size defensively is going to benefit him and the team. I don't think he'll have as many responsibilities as he had in Philly, which will work for him.

Just a shortsighted move by NO that's completely discrediting its competition. West is stacked with 7 elite teams (if houston gets dwightn). POR, DAL, MIN and NO (possibly even LA or utah) will be fighting for the 8th seed

That's not a battle you want to be a part of

NO was in prime position to rest Noel, showcase EG and move him at deadline and tank for top 3-5 pick next year in strong draft

Now that we are down the road a little, this is exactly what I was thinking.

Now that the West is starting to take shape, do you NOP fans still like the Jrue trade? I understand being an 8 seed is not a horrible thing, but was Jrue worth Noel and what is looking like will be a pick in the 8-12 range?

Looking at it as an unbiased fan, I see Philly being in a pretty good position this coming offseason. Loads of money, nice young potential (Noel, Young, MCW, Turner, Wroten) PLUS the possibility of two top 10 picks in a loaded draft.
I don't know if I prefer to be an Orlando fan or Philly fan as both look to have bright futures.

Not to say NOP situation is bad, but do you guys regret that trade yet? Is Jrue making a huge difference like some thought?

As a Pels fan I am still happy with the move. Noel is a horrible fit with Davis and that's if he's able to get over his lack of weight long term. Jrue is such a great complimentary player to all of the other players on this team. Also something to remember is the options aren't just tank or win now. Nola made the move to get young vets. The expectation wasn't that they were going to be a contender this year, but year after next after a few years of gelling and one or two more pieces, who knows. In the meantime we have a fun team that folks might actually want to see. The tanking stuff gets old and it's myrder on your fan base. No regrets.


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[R U Legit]

It was a good trade for both teams.

[lordjeff05]

It was a good trade for both teams.

Completely agree, these things don't have to be zero sum. Even though I like it for the Pels, that doesn't mean it was bad for Philly.