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Who has the best overall system?

Posted: Mon Apr 2, 2007 3:57 am
by dunkonu21
I would say it's Colorado or Arizona right now...

Posted: Mon Apr 2, 2007 4:17 am
by bigboy1234
It's easily the Devil Rays, no ones is even close.

Posted: Mon Apr 2, 2007 4:28 am
by baseballjunky33
Oh the Devil Rays have so much talent its crazy. They could easily get a good number 2 starter and and a good starting position player for their talent and still be ranked in the top 10 in teams with best farm system.

Posted: Mon Apr 2, 2007 4:34 am
by OSBB
Rays

Young, Dukes, Longoria, Brignac, Neimann, etc.

Posted: Mon Apr 2, 2007 5:46 am
by kg2005
With all of that talent I don't see how the Rays stay in 5th.

Posted: Mon Apr 2, 2007 6:06 am
by Bleeding Green
Rays. Plus they can add David Price this summer. It's too bad they're in the toughest division in baseball.

Look at that 2008 rotation:

Kazmir
Price
Niemann
McGee
Davis

Obvioiusly they won't all pan out, but no one can touch that.

Most overrated system: Angels.

Posted: Mon Apr 2, 2007 6:36 am
by dunkonu21
Minnesota Twins 2008 rotation:
Santana
Liriano
Boof Bonser
Garza
Perkins/Baker/Slowey

Minny touches and surpasses...

Posted: Mon Apr 2, 2007 6:41 am
by SportsWorld
kg2005 wrote:With all of that talent I don't see how the Rays stay in 5th.

Because their guys are still young and developing. Give the Rays 3-5 years and we may be talking World Series.

Re: Who has the best overall system?

Posted: Mon Apr 2, 2007 5:11 pm
by FNQ
dunkonu21 wrote:I would say it's Colorado or Arizona right now...


Most of Colorado/Zona's talent has graduated to the majors...

As far as actual MINOR league talent, I really like the Angels system... I think Erick Aybar will be a stud.

Posted: Mon Apr 2, 2007 8:16 pm
by Chach
The Angels system sucks (obvious hyperbole). They have a lot of depth in the middle infield with Aybar and Rodrigeuiz but the only two guys I really like are Wood (who loses a bit of value moving to third) and Adenhart. They have a decent system but I like Colorado and Arizona's talent better, not just top end talent but depth as well. mahalo
~Chach~

Posted: Mon Apr 2, 2007 9:07 pm
by OSBB
Bleeding Green wrote:Rays. Plus they can add David Price this summer. It's too bad they're in the toughest division in baseball.

Look at that 2008 rotation:

Kazmir
Price
Niemann
McGee
Davis

Obvioiusly they won't all pan out, but no one can touch that.

Most overrated system: Angels.


SHIELDS IS GONNA BE GOOD.

Why does nobody believe me?

Posted: Mon Apr 2, 2007 9:12 pm
by dunkonu21
Shields had a great spring training I believe you

Posted: Tue Apr 3, 2007 3:46 am
by dbenton
The Devil Rays do have a great system and we are finally seeing some of the priced pieces from Arizona's. Another great system is the Los Angeles Dodgers, who still have a lot left on the farm for the next few years.

Posted: Tue Apr 3, 2007 4:08 am
by bigboy1234
Well BA ranks the top 10 like this:

1. Tampa Bay
2. Colorado
3. Arizona
4. LA of Anaheim
5. Milwaukee
6. Los Angeles
7. New York-AL
8. Minnesota
9. Boston
10. Cleveland

Posted: Tue Apr 3, 2007 4:24 pm
by theknicks414
When it comes to pitching, the Yankees rank first. So much pitching depth... But the only real major hitting prospects we have are Tabata and Duncan.

2010 Yankees Rotation
Phil Hughes
Dellin Betances
Chien Ming Wang
Joba Chamberlain
Tyler Clippard/Ian Kennedy/Humberto Sanchez (two of the three can be used as trade pieces)

Posted: Tue Apr 3, 2007 6:57 pm
by Sashobe
theknicks414 wrote:When it comes to pitching, the Yankees rank first. So much pitching depth... But the only real major hitting prospects we have are Tabata and Duncan.

2010 Yankees Rotation
Phil Hughes
Dellin Betances
Chien Ming Wang
Joba Chamberlain
Tyler Clippard/Ian Kennedy/Humberto Sanchez (two of the three can be used as trade pieces)
Totally agreed.

Posted: Tue Apr 3, 2007 9:47 pm
by Chach
theknicks414 wrote:When it comes to pitching, the Yankees rank first. So much pitching depth... But the only real major hitting prospects we have are Tabata and Duncan.

2010 Yankees Rotation
Phil Hughes
Dellin Betances
Chien Ming Wang
Joba Chamberlain
Tyler Clippard/Ian Kennedy/Humberto Sanchez (two of the three can be used as trade pieces)


To quote Ghostface Killah: Liar liar, pants on fire/You're burnin up like David Koresh

The Yanks have some interesting depth and Hughes is probably the best pitching prospect in the minors but there are teams with better depth. Hughes is good, I think Wang is overrated (I think he's going to get hurt if he doesn't raise his strikeout rate). Betances is nice but unproven, I worry about Joba the Hut's weight and injury history. Clippard is always going to be an Eckstein type player, scrapping to make it. Kennedy is interesting but I'd like to see what he does in the minors. And Sanchez is probably going to end up in the pen. While I personally like the upside of the Red Sox depth, I'd be lying if I said that the Sox had better pitching depth than the Yankees. The Sox might have more upside but a lot of their pitchers are unproven out of the Joba/Betances mold. mahalo
~Chach~

Posted: Wed Apr 4, 2007 8:11 am
by Harry Palmer
Whoever is the opposite of the Jays. TB, I expect.

Re: Who has the best overall system?

Posted: Thu Apr 5, 2007 3:14 am
by diamondbacker
OaklandReggae wrote:-= original quote snipped =-



Most of Colorado/Zona's talent has graduated to the majors...

As far as actual MINOR league talent, I really like the Angels system... I think Erick Aybar will be a stud.


My thoughts too. AZ till now, now maybe TB.
AZ still has some great hitters down there in Hankerd, Pena, Gonzalez (projected to be a lefty Beltran with more power), and Upton. Not bad for a farm system, amny of whose elite prospects are now all in the majors (Quenitn, Drew, Jackson, Young, Montero, Callaspo, Owings)

Posted: Thu Apr 5, 2007 3:15 am
by diamondbacker
bigboy1234 wrote:Well BA ranks the top 10 like this:

1. Tampa Bay
2. Colorado
3. Arizona
4. LA of Anaheim
5. Milwaukee
6. Los Angeles
7. New York-AL
8. Minnesota
9. Boston
10. Cleveland


Not a homer vote here, but AZ over COL, please.