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3rd Braves’ Pitching Prospect demoted in 2 months - Time to Fret?

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3rd Braves’ Pitching Prospect demoted in 2 months - Time to Fret? 

Post#1 » by Jamaaliver » Mon Aug 22, 2016 4:37 pm

From an article over at myajc.com:

Tyrell Jenkins just became the third of the Atlanta Braves’ lovingly assembled young pitchers — the third in two months — to be demoted to Class AAA after being installed in the major-league rotation.

OK. So Jenkins-as-starter didn’t work, even though he had a run of three consecutive quality starts before getting touched for 16 earned runs in eight innings...He might well be suited to relief. Were it just Jenkins, we’d say, “No big deal.”

But Wisler got worse the more he worked in Year 2 - his ERA as of June 1 was 3.16. As of July 1, it was 4.14. As of July 28, it was 5.16. Blair, considered almost big-league ready when the Braves acquired him in the second Miller trade, came up in April, was sent back and then recalled — and was awful the whole time.

That three promising pitchers were demoted simply because they’d stopped getting people out is worrisome: Was there something the Braves could have done — some mechanical tweak — to keep them at the big-league level?



So far, the Braves haven’t found a starting pitcher who has proved he can stick in a rotation. (Mike Foltynewicz has the stuff, but his pitch counts run so high — over 100 in seven of his past eight starts, the exception being a 99-pitch game — that he rarely works past the sixth inning.) Granted, it’s early days. We haven’t seen Sean Newcomb or Touki Toussaint or Max Fried or Kolby Allard or Mike Soroka, to say nothing of Ian Anderson and Joey Wentz or Kyle Muller. All hope is not yet lost.

As Hart said last summer, quoting the baseball adage regarding pitchers: “You need 10 to get three.” As it stands, we can’t say for sure that the Braves have found even one.



Reasons for concern?

Normal growing pains?

These guys still long-term pieces in your eyes, or should they make way for the new crop of young pitching prospects we're pinning our hopes on?

Any concerns about the direction of the rebuild?
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Re: Third Braves’ Pitching Prospect demoted in two months 

Post#2 » by Jamaaliver » Mon Aug 22, 2016 4:48 pm

(cont.) The article then express concern over McDowell's development of young pitchers:

...what success Roger McDowell has had as a pitching coach has tended to come with guys who’ve been around and can execute a game plan. (Everyone agrees that McDowell is an ace among game-planners.) Since McDowell replaced Leo Mazzone after the 2005 season, the Braves have had some excellent rotations and bullpens while taking only one hotshot prospect and turning him into a big-league No. 1 or No. 2

As Will Carroll, a writer who tracks baseball injuries, said last year: “They’ve been good at finding them and getting them to (the major-league) level. They’ve had super prospects (such as Tommy Hanson and Mike Minor) — they get there, and then they break … I don’t like to point the finger from outside, but everything’s pointing to Roger McDowell.”



It's worth noting that McDowell's current contract expires at season's end. but both he and the Bravos have expressed interest in keeping him around long-term.
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Re: 3rd Braves’ Pitching Prospect demoted in 2 months - Time to Fret? 

Post#3 » by Jamaaliver » Mon Aug 22, 2016 5:05 pm

Obviously too early in the process to panic. And with the sheer number of pitching prospects we possess, we'll survive the inevitable disappointments we're bound to get from some of the players.

And I do still believe in the need for the rebuild and the manner in which we've gone about doing so.

But, it's not the worst idea to consider a new pitching coach who has more of a reputation for developing young players. Maybe someone who can better work in tandem with the pitching coach(es) in the minor leagues with regards to the strengths, deficiencies of these kids as they jump from one level to the next.


I didn't expect any of these three (Wisler, Blair, Jenkins) to become staff aces in 2016...but it'd be nice if we saw guys capable of at least sticking with the big league team for the long-term.
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Re: 3rd Braves’ Pitching Prospect demoted in 2 months - Time to Fret? 

Post#4 » by JDR720 » Mon Aug 22, 2016 7:00 pm

not concerning at all.

still have....

Allard, Newcomb, Wentz, Anderson, Soroka, Muller, Fried, Toussiant, Povse, Ellis, Weigal, Morris, Minter and Sims.

and you cant forget those 3 that got demoted had moments of being very solid.
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Re: 3rd Braves’ Pitching Prospect demoted in 2 months - Time to Fret? 

Post#5 » by Ruzious » Mon Aug 22, 2016 9:00 pm

JDR720 wrote:not concerning at all.

still have....

Allard, Newcomb, Wentz, Anderson, Soroka, Muller, Fried, Toussiant, Povse, Ellis, Weigal, Morris, Minter and Sims.

and you cant forget those 3 that got demoted had moments of being very solid.

The number of outstanding talents is astounding, but they need to do a better job getting the guys in the bigs to have success when they're promoted - easier said than done. Blair was a real disappointment in the bigs - but there's no reason to think he won't turn things around. Newcomb didn't take a step up that everyone thought he would. But Jenkins doesn't bother me. I've said all along that he should be in the bullpen. Hopefully this convinces the Braves' brass of that. And don't forget that Cabrera and Krol have exceeded expectations so far out of the bullpen. Cabrera's a stud.
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