Our other R1 pick.

[Kanyewest]

Makes sense. So... would you take Yaxel at 18? Over Sorber?

I like what I’ve seen in the videos of Yaxel that have been posted but I’m taking Sorber if he’s there at 18. I saw several of his games at G’Town and Sorber is as fundamentally sound a 19 yr old big as you’re going to find—on both ends of the court. He’ll be gone before 18.

I think there’s a chance that Sorber could be drafted before Queen, I agree that he won’t be there at 18.

There is a chance he slips or a quality big goes lower because a teams may end up drafting need over best player available specifically from 10-18.

Sacramento - already have Sabonis
Dallas - already have Lively, Gafford, and Davis
Miami - Bam/Ware
Detroit - Duren/Stewart
Portland - Clingan/Ayton
Orlando - Carter/Wagner

Basically the Hawks and the Bulls could be the ones who draft a big but even they could try to address another need.

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What does anybody think about Carter Bryat at 18?

[doclinkin]

What does anybody think about Carter Bryant at 18?

That’s a yes for me. Good defender excellent athlete good size. Upside shot and playmaking. A very Dawkins pick. Trouble is he’s a golden child of the pre draft process and is another one of the guys I think leapfrogs our 18th pick. Mocks had been ignoring him. Now many have him in the lotto. Some as high as 10.

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Hey, if someone rises someone else drops a bit. There will be a very good prospect at 18 -- several, in fact.

[pcbothwel]

What does anybody think about Carter Bryant at 18?

That’s a yes for me. Good defender excellent athlete good size. Upside shot and playmaking. A very Dawkins pick. Trouble is he’s a golden child of the pre draft process and is another one of the guys I think leapfrogs our 18th pick. Mocks had been ignoring him. Now many have him in the lotto. Some as high as 10.

We'll see. He has some of the same problems as Fleming in that he has tools, but looks limited in ceiling due to lack of playmaking/ball handling and quickness.

But I agree. I LOVE 18 right now. Essengue, Traore, Fears and Sorber are at the top for me. Followed closely by Fleming, Beringer, Carter.
Its going to be hard not to take Sorber or Beringer. While both are different types of players/athletes, both have elite defensive traits at the 5 and would really unlock Sarr.
I love Sorber's toughness and drop coverage instincts.
Beringer has the upside of a Jarrett Allen with Claxton type mobility. Really rare.

[doclinkin]

Hey, if someone rises someone else drops a bit. There will be a very good prospect at 18 -- several, in fact.

There will. I think guys like Liam McNeely and Kasparas will drop. Egor Demin maybe though as a 6’9” point guard some team may snatch him. Kon Knoeppel will measure slow and unimpressive in the athletic portion.

I think we will still target Sorber and Carter Bryant. Essengue. Beringer. Traore. But will not be surprised if we trade up though for whomever we get.

[SUPERBALLMAN]

Hey, if someone rises someone else drops a bit. There will be a very good prospect at 18 -- several, in fact.

There will. I think guys like Liam McNeely and Kasparas will drop. Egor Demin maybe though as a 6’9” point guard some team may snatch him. Kon Knoeppel will measure slow and unimpressive in the athletic portion.

I think we will still target Sorber and Carter Bryant. Essengue. Beringer. Traore. But will not be surprised if we trade up though for whomever we get.

Matt Moderno's Bleav In Wizards podcast provides some good pick 18 discussion...

Watch on YouTube

[badinage]

What does anybody think about Carter Bryant at 18?

That’s a yes for me. Good defender excellent athlete good size. Upside shot and playmaking. A very Dawkins pick. Trouble is he’s a golden child of the pre draft process and is another one of the guys I think leapfrogs our 18th pick. Mocks had been ignoring him. Now many have him in the lotto. Some as high as 10.

He’s only a very Dawkins pick if his growth plates aren’t set!

[badinage]

The Dawkins prototype: was 5’-8” as a high school junior and ran point, then shot up to 6’2” as a senior (just low enough to elude detection by most scouts), then had another spurt as a freshman, and then another in the months after NCAAs, to clock in at 6’7” or 6’-8” — with the expectation that he’ll continue to grow another two inches in the pros.

[doclinkin]

The Dawkins prototype: was 5’-8” as a high school junior and ran point, then shot up to 6’2” as a senior (just low enough to elude detection by most scouts), then had another spurt as a freshman, and then another in the months after NCAAs, to clock in at 6’7” or 6’-8” — with the expectation that he’ll continue to grow another two inches in the pros.

Ha! Though Alex was 7’ as a 16 year old transferring to Overtime Elite from Spain. They like late bloomers, but mostly length and versatility. Smarts.

Carter Bryant jumps like he’s fired from a cannon. Swings between 3-4. Defends well. If he’s there at 18 they take him. I think theyd trade up for him if they could. Maybe even over Sorber who is solid and smart and high character, versatile as a 4-5 but not a size or athletic mismatch at either position.

But I would not be surprised if they take any of the 3 French kids at 18.

[nate33]

What does anybody think about Carter Bryant at 18?

That’s a yes for me. Good defender excellent athlete good size. Upside shot and playmaking. A very Dawkins pick. Trouble is he’s a golden child of the pre draft process and is another one of the guys I think leapfrogs our 18th pick. Mocks had been ignoring him. Now many have him in the lotto. Some as high as 10.

Yeah, he looks like one of the surest bets in the middle of the first round. That guy has a clear NBA role. I don't know if he'll pan out to be a Herb Jones tier starting 3&D wing, or merely Derrick Jones Jr. tier rotation 3&D wing, but I'm pretty sure he'll be an NBA player. He reminds me a bit of Danny Green in that he might be a better pro than a college player.

My only slight reservation about drafting him is that we already have 3 guys who can already fill that role in Bilal, George and Champagnie (plus maybe a 4th guy if we land Flagg or Bailey at the top of the lottery). Still, it's hard to have too many 3&D wings who can guard 3 or 4 positions.

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Moved this here, as Rasheer might well be in the conversation for our #18 pick:

Film breakdown with Rasheer Fleming...

Watch on YouTube

[dobrojim]

No idea what could happen. I'd definitely consider
sacrificing a 2nd rnd pick or 2, for a deal to move up.
I'd be happy with a bunch of different players:
(in no particular order)
Sorber
Bryant
Maluach
Fleming
Wolf
DDQ
Yax
Noa
Penda
CMB
and probably another 5 I can't think of right now

[doclinkin]

Moved this here, as Rasheer might well be in the conversation for our #18 pick:

Film breakdown with Rasheer Fleming...

Seems a coachable kid. Understands what he has to work on. Willing to put in the effort. A steady improvement sort of player.

Interesting he sees himself as a 3/4. I think with work in the weight room he’d be fine as a 4/5 for us. He’d be a better defender than Tristan in a similar role as a stretch big. A more proficient and willing rebounder than Alex, he could slot in next to him or in relief.

His skill set makes him able to play next to any combination of the guys on the roster. He’s interchangeable with Bilal and Key but can fit on court with them due to his ranged attack. We would be so long across the front, switching every pick and hard to get past.

[payitforward]

No idea what could happen. I'd definitely consider
sacrificing a 2nd rnd pick or 2, for a deal to move up.
I'd be happy with a bunch of different players:
(in no particular order)
Sorber
Bryant
Maluach
Fleming
Wolf
DDQ
Yax
Noa
Penda
CMB
and probably another 5 I can't think of right now

...in which case, not much need to move up!

[dobrojim]

No idea what could happen. I'd definitely consider
sacrificing a 2nd rnd pick or 2, for a deal to move up.
I'd be happy with a bunch of different players:
(in no particular order)
Sorber
Bryant
Maluach
Fleming
Wolf
DDQ
Yax
Noa
Penda
CMB
and probably another 5 I can't think of right now

...in which case, not much need to move up!

It's all about how much you like them vs how much
you value the pick. There is only so much roster
space and playing time available.

[Dat2U]

Noa Essengue is the pie in the sky pick for our FO. Hes long, skilled, young, and French

I don't love his skill level. Not sure about his hands either. Seems far away from being any sort of perimeter threat and shot creating isnt in the cards. Your basically hoping he becomes a passable C&S threat and that his defensive tools develop to allow his remedial offensive game to stay on the floor

Not the type of athlete you typically see in a super raw toolsy project. Reminds me a little bit of Jan Vesely early in his development (without the high flying dunks).

[SUPERBALLMAN]

Watch on YouTube

Watch on YouTube

[9 and 20]

I'm set on drafting Coward and Noah Penda(jo). If the NBA wants to treat the franchise as a joke, we will oblige and make Coward and Pendejo Wizards jerseys best sellers.

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Moved this exchange about Queen from the main draft thread:

...Things are going to work out for the young man. I honestly hope he doesn't end up with the Wizards.

This is an odd take to me. If the Wiz take him its because they are confident that they can coach him up ... trust their developmental plan and take him for his smarts and character. Not sure why you wouldn't want that on your home team, OR why you think this team would be bad for him. He'd get all the minutes he needed, developing next to Sarr, and if we lost a few games while he worked himself into shape, that's fine. Kyshawn showed up kinda soft-serve himself at the start of the year but has gotten fitter and stronger. I think DQ would benefit from having Marcus Smart in his ear -- or on his a55-- teaching him defensive tips and coaching him up.

I'm fine if we get Queen with that 18th pick. ...if he lands here it is because they believe in him and I think would be an ideal situation for him to play next to his lil Bmore bro Bub.

This is interesting.
At 18, Queen is a high value pick. Will he drop that far? Would we take him at that point?