coolhandluke121 wrote::o I don't even know what to say! Thanks for proving my point. Lincecum/Cain/Bumgarner are much better than Gallardo/Greinke/Marcum. I mean it's not even close! The idea that Wolf and Narveson are good enough to make up that gap is ludicrous. That's exactly what I'm talking about with the homer bias. Wolf is a very good #4, but Narveson is just... blah.
Greinke spent his entire career until last year pitching in the AL, Marcum the same in the AL East. The Giants top three have spent their entire careers in San Francisco, one of the best pitchers parks in the game and also playing in San Diego the best pitchers park in the game as well as Dodger Stadium another great pitchers park. They're all very good pitchers, though they (especially Cain) have gotten the benefit of pitching in one of the most pitcher friendly parks in one of the most pitcher friendly divisions in baseball their whole careers.
Just look at Gallardo/Greinke for example. So many people are fond of saying the Brewers have two aces. But they have a combined grand total of ONE season pitching like an ace, between the two of them! Cain and Lincecum are bona-fide aces and Bumgarner a legit #2, with Lincecum a perennial Cy Young candidate.
And here you are trying to downgrade our pitchers so you don't show "bias."
Gallardo in his career has a 3.63 ERA, 3.51 FIP and 3.68 xFIP
Cain in his career has a 3.35 ERA, 3.69 FIP and 4.26 xFIP
Yet Gallardo doesn't have one season of pitching like an ace according to you and Cain is a bonafide ace. Seriously, STFU.
Jurrjens is looking like an ace.
Jurrjens career 3.40 ERA, 3.88 FIP, 4.22 xFIP.
I'm not going to go through all of them, but seriously, look at stats before posting this garbage.