Official Rookie thread (take two)

[seorang]

Jimmer had a good game too, Minny's wings suck balls

[UcanUwill]

Yeah, both had a great game, but damn, IT is a mini beast. Love his defense, I like guys who play that Rubio like defense, always active. Is he best last pick ever? Its funny how Sac had top 10 pick, but the one whos performing well is the 60 one.

[mcfly1204]

It doesn't take a GM to realize that you can't play TT and AV together.

So what's the plan?

Play TT and AV together and watch it work? We played AV and Ben **** Wallace together all the time.

You are such a homer.

Just because the Cavs DID play Ben Wallace and AV together doesn't mean they should have. It was the price of admission to get rid of Larry Hughe's contract.

TT and AV together CAN play together, but they shouldn't. Do you really want Kyrie Irving playing 3 on 5?

Comparing TT to Ben Wallace offensively is ridiculous. Ben Wallace, due to back issues and/or age could be seen being blocked by the rim on dunk attempts. Ben Wallace literally offered nothing to the offense, his first thought whenever he had the ball in his hands was where could he pass it. I get it, Thompson cannot hit a jumper, and Varejao's is inconsistent, that alone does not mean they have nothing to offer on offense. Thompson can put the ball on the floor and has a pretty decent first step. Varejao is one of the best bigs in the league at cutting to the basket. Thompson has shown a similar attribute, and should only improve as he works in a go-to move or two.

[No Offense]

Thompson is just as bad offensively as Ben Wallace. This has nothing with him not being able to hit a jump shot. He's a disaster at the rim and his go-to move when he's not open for a dunk or layup is to try and create his own shot, which makes me laugh every time.

[mcfly1204]

That statement is simply wrong. Either you are being overly biased, which I would assume/hope is the case, or you are just ignorant. Tristan Thompson is the equivalent of Ben Wallace on offense.... good one.

[gordito]

That statement is simply wrong. Either you are being overly biased, which I would assume/hope is the case, or you are just ignorant. Tristan Thompson is the equivalent of Ben Wallace on offense.... good one.

I lol'd at that comment as well. If he truly believes that Thompson = Wallace on offense, he's lost his credibility and this discussion is over.

[Niko23]

Thompson is just as bad offensively as Ben Wallace. This has nothing with him not being able to hit a jump shot. He's a disaster at the rim and his go-to move when he's not open for a dunk or layup is to try and create his own shot, which makes me laugh every time.

Wow. Hope your kidding because if you are not, I am seriously doubting your talent evaluation skills.

[No Offense]

Thompson is just as bad offensively as Ben Wallace. This has nothing with him not being able to hit a jump shot. He's a disaster at the rim and his go-to move when he's not open for a dunk or layup is to try and create his own shot, which makes me laugh every time.

Wow. Hope your kidding because if you are not, I am seriously doubting your talent evaluation skills.

What is Tristan Thompson's go-to move?

[Dupp]

^ he doesnt have any good moves you're right. But he's alot better finisher around the rim and he's still raw as feck.

[No Offense]

^ he doesnt have any good moves you're right. But he's alot better finisher around the rim and he's still raw as feck.

I'll give you that. But the gap is not as wide as the Cavs homers would have you think. He doesn't have a single go-to move.

[droponov]

He isn't Ben Wallace (unfortunately for him and the Cavs); in fact, I still don't see what makes or will make Thompson more than a backup PF. He's above average on the offensive glass and decent on the ball defensively.

And he's benefiting from playing with a stretch 4 like Jamison now. If he's asked to play the 4 with a 5 more inside, his lack of offensive talent and skills besides the knack for offensive rebounds and the strong hands becomes more obvious.

He has some defensive potential - as I predicted, his unimpressive defensive rebounding wouldn't improve in the NBA, at least right away -, but I don't see more than a role-player, probably a defensive PF off the bench, in his future.

[BSM]

He isn't Ben Wallace (unfortunately for him and the Cavs); in fact, I still don't see what makes or will make Thompson more than a backup PF. He's above average on the offensive glass and decent on the ball defensively.

And he's benefiting from playing with a stretch 4 like Jamison now. If he's asked to play the 4 with a 5 more inside, his lack of offensive talent and skills besides the knack for offensive rebounds and the strong hands becomes more obvious.

He has some defensive potential - as I predicted, his unimpressive defensive rebounding wouldn't improve in the NBA, at least right away -, but I don't see more than a role-player, probably a defensive PF off the bench, in his future.

Reason his defensive rebounds aren't there cause of Jamison, defensive rebounds never worried me as they're mostly freebies.

[BSM]

How about looking at his numbers as a starter

50.6 FG%, 1.3 pps

Thanks, those are a lil better, still... I know is the NBA what matters, but his nemesis' Euro numbers are 66FG%, 1.85 PPS and 71.5 TS%.

IN EUROPE

[Niko23]

Thompson is just as bad offensively as Ben Wallace. This has nothing with him not being able to hit a jump shot. He's a disaster at the rim and his go-to move when he's not open for a dunk or layup is to try and create his own shot, which makes me laugh every time.

Wow. Hope your kidding because if you are not, I am seriously doubting your talent evaluation skills.

What is Tristan Thompson's go-to move?

What is your BFF Jonas' go to move?
How about rookie LeBron?
How about Kanter or Derrick Williams?

Again your statement that Thompson is as bad as Ben Wallace on offense clearly demonstrates your incompetence in talent evaluation. Ben Wallace had a career high of 23 points in late 2010, after being in the league for 16 seasons. Thompson scored 27 in his second start.

Wanna try again?

[Chocobanana]

How about looking at his numbers as a starter

50.6 FG%, 1.3 pps

Thanks, those are a lil better, still... I know is the NBA what matters, but his nemesis' Euro numbers are 66FG%, 1.85 PPS and 71.5 TS%.

IN EUROPE

yes he said that