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Re: Our best chance to get rid of STATue

Postby ORANGEandBLUE on Tue May 01, 2012 11:21 am

Also, I really doubt NJ can absorb $20m. They're gonna want to re-sign Deron, Wallace, Hump, and Brook. Our only hope is that one of those guys doesn't want to stay with the Nets.
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Re: Our best chance to get rid of STATue

Postby drekwins on Tue May 01, 2012 11:23 am

at this point, after watching how bad our pg play is and how hard it is for our team to create shots, id trade amare and lin for deron. then, just sign a bruising power forward who can rebound and play a little d and let melo and deron go to work.
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Re: Our best chance to get rid of STATue

Postby GONYK on Tue May 01, 2012 11:23 am

drekwins wrote:at this point, after watching how bad our pg play is and how hard it is for our team to create shots, id trade amare and lin for deron. then, just sign a bruising power forward who can rebound and play a little d and let melo and deron go to work.


Lin isn't getting traded
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Re: Our best chance to get rid of STATue

Postby drekwins on Tue May 01, 2012 11:26 am

of course he isn't. im not predicting the future. i'm just saying that it could be a good basketball move. think of what billups did to denver. they unleashed a declining AI for Billups and immediately became a really good team in the west. it's not going to happen but it doesn't mean it isn't the right way to build. do you really trust the knicks way of building? imagine if they didn't get the number 1 pick during the ewing years. they would have been like this since the 70s.
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Re: Our best chance to get rid of STATue

Postby GONYK on Tue May 01, 2012 11:29 am

drekwins wrote:of course he isn't. im not predicting the future. i'm just saying that it could be a good basketball move. think of what billups did to denver. they unleashed a declining AI for Billups and immediately became a really good team in the west. it's not going to happen but it doesn't mean it isn't the right way to build. do you really trust the knicks way of building? imagine if they didn't get the number 1 pick during the ewing years. they would have been like this since the 70s.


We can play that game forever with every team.

The team as it stands right now, when healthy, is very good. We don't need Deron. Lin is fine at the 1. We need Amare to focus up and come into next season without all the baggage he carried this year.
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Re: Our best chance to get rid of STATue

Postby richardhutnik on Tue May 01, 2012 11:31 am

I got it! Trade Amar'e for either a piano or hammer. Since Amar'e made his money dunking, you can see in this video who actually shows more force against a backboard basket: Amar'e, a piano, or a hammer. And since the Bobcats have issues, maybe Amar'e could go to the Bobcats for a hammer.



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Re: Our best chance to get rid of STATue

Postby makeitstop on Tue May 01, 2012 11:33 am

richardhutnik wrote:I got it! Trade Amar'e for either a piano or hammer. Since Amar'e made his money dunking, you can see in this video who actually shows more force against a backboard basket: Amar'e, a piano, or a hammer. And since the Bobcats have issues, maybe Amar'e could go to the Bobcats for a hammer.



For the hammer reference go to the Bobcats forum on here.


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Re: Our best chance to get rid of STATue

Postby Forbes on Tue May 01, 2012 11:35 am

During the season I was quietly hoping could trade him for Josh Smith. All we need is defense at PF. Amare runs down the court with his back turned not lookin at the ball. Breaks my heart every time.
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Re: Our best chance to get rid of STATue

Postby drekwins on Tue May 01, 2012 11:37 am

I agree, you could analyze every team and what you put on paper is different than the actual game. however, what cant be debated is the knicks 3 major weaknesses: pg play, rebounding and turnovers. how do we fix it? will lin return the same? will he continue to progress? there's cases for both sides. me personally, if we get a chance at a young all star pg, while getting rid of two of our 3 main problems (pg play and turnovers), you gotta do it. even better, if we can do it while getting rid of stat then we fix the third as well. this is exactly the same situation denver was in before getting billups.

nonetheless, lin wont be traded and that could very well be the right move. i just hope the kids 20 games are sustainable. because if he f*ks up, his trade value will never be this high.
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Re: Our best chance to get rid of STATue

Postby Thescout on Tue May 01, 2012 12:08 pm

2 trades i would go after if i was the Knicks

Trade 1) Brakens and Iggy for Amre and future 1 Pick
why for 76ers- Brand is a free agent, Amre will be the Star they lack and moving Evan turner to his original position at the SF Lou Williams would start at the SG .
why for the Knicks- Iggy goes to SF Melo to PF you will have Shump and Iggy with Chandler the defense gets better along with spacing


Trade 2) Amare for Emeka Okafor and Xavier Henry
why for the hornets because again it gives them a star and make them worth coming out to see
why for the Knicks you get better defensively more rebounding and block shots. They will also get Dept on the bench with Henry, they will lose Fields to free agency along with J.R Smith.

According to Stephen A. Smith they will not loose Lin because they own his rights as far as free agency so even if someone sign Lin to a contract the Knicks could Match any offer including going over the 5 mil exc. in which doesnt count against the Cap. so with the 5 mil cap space sign Goran Dragic. try to resign Novak and go to war with.

Dragic/ Lin-PG
Shump/ Xavier-SG
Melo/ Novak-SF
Okafor/ Harrellson-PF
Chandler/ Jordan- C

or

Dragic/Lin-PG
Shump/ Filler free agent- SG
Iggy/ Novak-SF
Melo/ Harrellson-PF
Chandler/ Jordan-C
both teams are well rounded out and spacing shoud be no problem, DEFNSE, DEFENSE, DEFENSE!!
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Re: Our best chance to get rid of STATue

Postby Tim Horton on Tue May 01, 2012 12:13 pm

only way to rid of Stat is package Lin with him.

Calderon, Kleiza, Amir for Amare, Lin
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Re: Our best chance to get rid of STATue

Postby BrOnXKing1 on Tue May 01, 2012 12:14 pm

This thread is pointless....we are not giving away stat for garbage! If we trade him, it will be when his trade value is higher!
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Re: Our best chance to get rid of STATue

Postby MelosSoreWrist on Tue May 01, 2012 12:19 pm

Thescout wrote:2 trades i would go after if i was the Knicks

Trade 1) Brakens and Iggy for Amre and future 1 Pick
why for 76ers- Brand is a free agent, Amre will be the Star they lack and moving Evan turner to his original position at the SF Lou Williams would start at the SG .
why for the Knicks- Iggy goes to SF Melo to PF you will have Shump and Iggy with Chandler the defense gets better along with spacing


Trade 2) Amare for Emeka Okafor and Xavier Henry
why for the hornets because again it gives them a star and make them worth coming out to see
why for the Knicks you get better defensively more rebounding and block shots. They will also get Dept on the bench with Henry, they will lose Fields to free agency along with J.R Smith.

According to Stephen A. Smith they will not loose Lin because they own his rights as far as free agency so even if someone sign Lin to a contract the Knicks could Match any offer including going over the 5 mil exc. in which doesnt count against the Cap. so with the 5 mil cap space sign Goran Dragic. try to resign Novak and go to war with.

Dragic/ Lin-PG
Shump/ Xavier-SG
Melo/ Novak-SF
Okafor/ Harrellson-PF
Chandler/ Jordan- C

or

Dragic/Lin-PG
Shump/ Filler free agent- SG
Iggy/ Novak-SF
Melo/ Harrellson-PF
Chandler/ Jordan-C
both teams are well rounded out and spacing shoud be no problem, DEFNSE, DEFENSE, DEFENSE!!

1) I dont think Amare is the STAR you think he is.
2) Matching another teams offer for Lin uses up the MLE, you cant use it to sign Dragic.
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Re: Our best chance to get rid of STATue

Postby Thescout on Tue May 01, 2012 12:20 pm

BrOnXKing1 wrote:This thread is pointless....we are not giving away stat for garbage! If we trade him, it will be when his trade value is higher!

i don't think his trade value is going to rise anymore than it is brother and feel those needs are important because remember defense wins games at least if you added Iggy or Okafor you get better defensively and rebounds i don't think either one of those trades are garbage compared to the way Stat has been playing.
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Re: Our best chance to get rid of STATue

Postby MelosSoreWrist on Tue May 01, 2012 12:22 pm

BrOnXKing1 wrote:This thread is pointless....we are not giving away stat for garbage! If we trade him, it will be when his trade value is higher!

From the moment he signed his contract, he's trade worth was low and since then has been steadily dropping to the point of being near untradeable.
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