DocHoliday wrote:Westbrook wasn't a "no-brainer" pick
Neither was Harden
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DocHoliday wrote:Westbrook wasn't a "no-brainer" pick
GHOSTofSIKMA wrote:maybe i shouldnt have said harden and westbrook were no brainers..... thats maybe not fair. durant was the one no brainer.
a better description would be that he picked players projected to go in the range they got picked. that was his shining moment..... he didnt blow it by reaching for guys further down the board.
JimmyTheKid wrote:LUKE23 wrote:Besides drafting Durant, Westbrook, Harden, Ibaka, trading Green for Perkins, and trading a mid 20's 1st for an elite wing defender in Sefolosha, and amassing multiple 1sts wherever possible, I agree, Presti has done very little of significant impact.
Durant was the ONLY no-brainer on that list.
LUKE23 wrote:And Green for Perkins is lateral? Green added nothing of value, while Perkins is a really good defender. Westbrook/Harden/Durant/Ibaka/Perkins/Sefolosha are guys that would be in the top 8 of any rotation in the league, and Presti acquired all of them
GHOSTofSIKMA wrote:he gave the return on ray allen, and the pick that became taj gibson to get them. go ahead and give the guy an award for his amazing lateral moves to fill out the roster if you want to. i know presti is a god to you. lets just move on.
LUKE23 wrote:Besides drafting Durant, Westbrook, Harden, Ibaka, trading Green for Perkins, and trading a mid 20's 1st for an elite wing defender in Sefolosha, and amassing multiple 1sts wherever possible, I agree, Presti has done very little of significant impact.
LUKE23 wrote:
The Bucks method has worked out much better for sure.
E-Buck wrote:Hammond is an idiot if he doesn't realize that he just lacks an eye for talent. A prime example was taking Henson instead of J.Lamb. Like why?
GHOSTofSIKMA wrote:
i know. we tanked the wrong years and didnt trade guys like redd and bogut for nothing in order to suck and tank in even more years
LUKE23 wrote:GHOSTofSIKMA wrote:he gave the return on ray allen, and the pick that became taj gibson to get them. go ahead and give the guy an award for his amazing lateral moves to fill out the roster if you want to. i know presti is a god to you. lets just move on.
I'm not the one saying crazy things here. Lets remember that you are a person that has lauded the work Hammond has done to ridiculous levels, even though we're well under .500 under his watch, and are now taking all the work Presti has done and basically boiling it all down to luck. I'm fine moving on, just stop saying ridiculous ****.
randy84 wrote:I think the big point that people are missing on this is that two different approaches were taken by the Thunder and the Celtics at the same time.
Thunder decided to blow it up and built through draft, Celtics decided to built a team by trading for veterans.
GHOSTofSIKMA wrote:thats been our biggest mistake. weve not tanked, and weve gone for 2nd rate vets by not offering players AND picks. weve been straddling the fence.
DocHoliday wrote:GHOSTofSIKMA wrote:thats been our biggest mistake. weve not tanked, and weve gone for 2nd rate vets by not offering players AND picks. weve been straddling the fence.
You mean like giving the Bobcats the 7th pick in the draft AND Maggette for Jax and the 19th pick?
GHOSTofSIKMA wrote:jackson was trash but whats weird is he really wasnt just the year before. he was monta level just older.
John Henson wrote:This lady just asked me who I play for and I said the Milwaukee Bucks, she quickly replied “oh the highschool across the street?”
DocHoliday wrote:You mean like giving the Bobcats the 7th pick in the draft AND Maggette for Jax and the 19th pick?
4xBuck wrote:LUKE23 wrote:Besides drafting Durant, Westbrook, Harden, Ibaka, trading Green for Perkins, and trading a mid 20's 1st for an elite wing defender in Sefolosha, and amassing multiple 1sts wherever possible, I agree, Presti has done very little of significant impact.
No doubt OKC has done it the right way, also liking how Cleveland is doing it now.
But, OKC also got lucky, which is OK… If OKC gets Beasley rather than Durant, they’re no better than Denver & Utah- two other teams doing it right but not lucky enough to land a franchise player.
CanadaBucks wrote:DocHoliday wrote:You mean like giving the Bobcats the 7th pick in the draft AND Maggette for Jax and the 19th pick?
Was this not a three way trade? Because if it wasn't you would have to give him huge credit for turning Salmons and 10 into beno and 7 right? I think ina ll truth we never had 7, we essentially traded Salmons, maggette and 10 for Jax, Beno and 19. I'll agree that if he doesn't sign Maggette and Salmons this trade is not made but let's not leave out half of the picture