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GT:Orlando(3-5) @ Toronto(2-7)

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Re: GT:Orlando(3-5) @ Toronto(2-7) 

Post#221 » by Jiwol » Sun Nov 18, 2012 8:16 pm

Last Guardian wrote:I guess no one told the players that if you press Calderon he's trash. Play loose on him he'll make the right decision every time.


Well, was about to write that. Jameer let him do whatever he wanted. And Jameer's shooting was pathetic. Plus those TO's when Raptors started to make the final run. Our 'general' sucked.
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Re: GT:Orlando(3-5) @ Toronto(2-7) 

Post#222 » by Last Guardian » Sun Nov 18, 2012 8:16 pm

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Last Guardian wrote:I guess no one told the players that if you press Calderon he's trash. Play loose on him he'll make the right decision every time.


That used to work when we had Dwight protecting the paint. We have no one that will pick him up once he drives.


He doesn't drive so that point fails.
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Re: GT:Orlando(3-5) @ Toronto(2-7) 

Post#223 » by glove1989 » Sun Nov 18, 2012 8:17 pm

Saint Nicolas wrote:Look at Johnson every time down. BBD switches and expects Jameer to pick him up EVERY TIME


Yea too many times he gives up on BOTH sides of the ball if he misses a couple shots. We are bad and his effort seems to go into hero mode when we struggle. Most notably in this game was in the first half BBD missed a shot and then on the defensive side he went to try and weak double calderon and left ed davis wide open for a dunk. He just seems to get tunnel vision on both sides when we are struggling and it is so frustrating.
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Re: GT:Orlando(3-5) @ Toronto(2-7) 

Post#224 » by GameOver25 » Sun Nov 18, 2012 8:17 pm

Confetti? Really? LOL!
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Re: GT:Orlando(3-5) @ Toronto(2-7) 

Post#225 » by thelead » Sun Nov 18, 2012 8:18 pm

Last Guardian wrote:
thelead wrote:
Last Guardian wrote:I guess no one told the players that if you press Calderon he's trash. Play loose on him he'll make the right decision every time.


That used to work when we had Dwight protecting the paint. We have no one that will pick him up once he drives.


He doesn't drive so that point fails.


On a pick and roll he will penetrate if the big pretends to play defense like ours do.
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Re: GT:Orlando(3-5) @ Toronto(2-7) 

Post#226 » by SOUL » Sun Nov 18, 2012 8:18 pm

This was 80% on Baby.

Didn't box out, didn't guard Amir at all. Took 16 seconds off the clock on one possession only TO DRIBBLE LIKE A POINT GUARD and get blocked by ANDREA BARGNANI.

Trade this clown.

Also, we switch and show on almost every possession because apparently we can't play man to man without double teaming? Or so I think, we don't even get to see.
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Re: GT:Orlando(3-5) @ Toronto(2-7) 

Post#227 » by Driguez » Sun Nov 18, 2012 8:19 pm

Bobby Ray wrote:I don't understand how we go AWAY from the scorers when we need points? we go through a scoring drought so we take out the scorers and put in McRoberts and Gustavo? Yeah they can get us buckets. Dunce cap going to coach on this one


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Re: GT:Orlando(3-5) @ Toronto(2-7) 

Post#228 » by GameOver25 » Sun Nov 18, 2012 8:20 pm

Saint Nicolas wrote:This was 80% on Baby.

Didn't box out, didn't guard Amir at all. Took 16 seconds off the clock on one possession only TO DRIBBLE LIKE A POINT GUARD and get blocked by ANDREA BARGNANI.

Trade this clown.

Also, we switch and show on almost every possession because apparently we can't play man to man without double teaming? Or so I think, we don't even get to see.


I just wish he'd shoot less, and the other players take the shots he's taking. It's painful to look at the box score and see him leading the way in FGA.
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Re: GT:Orlando(3-5) @ Toronto(2-7) 

Post#229 » by blue and white » Sun Nov 18, 2012 8:20 pm

GameOver25 wrote:Confetti? Really? LOL!

They dont win much so every win no matter how big or small is deserving of confetti
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Re: GT:Orlando(3-5) @ Toronto(2-7) 

Post#230 » by Last Guardian » Sun Nov 18, 2012 8:22 pm

On the bright side...+8 with Drew on the floor. Slowly but surely we need to get Davis out. Also really need to start playing Kyle. The only guy who can block a shot around the basket on this team.
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Re: GT:Orlando(3-5) @ Toronto(2-7) 

Post#231 » by KillMonger » Sun Nov 18, 2012 8:22 pm

Am i the only one more comfortable with Nicholson trying to get us a bucket than Baby? Nicholson just seems smarter offensively than Baby is. I just wished Baby gave consistent effort on the defensive end because he's known for his hustle but it's like a switch he turns on and off
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Re: GT:Orlando(3-5) @ Toronto(2-7) 

Post#232 » by Last Guardian » Sun Nov 18, 2012 8:23 pm

Driguez wrote:
Bobby Ray wrote:I don't understand how we go AWAY from the scorers when we need points? we go through a scoring drought so we take out the scorers and put in McRoberts and Gustavo? Yeah they can get us buckets. Dunce cap going to coach on this one


Another great success for our tank commander.


Could be trying to raise the value of certain players.
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Post#233 » by HSOB SIRHC » Sun Nov 18, 2012 8:24 pm

blue and white wrote:
GameOver25 wrote:Confetti? Really? LOL!

They dont win much so every win no matter how big or small is deserving of confetti



It's Lithuania day, why not?
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Re: GT:Orlando(3-5) @ Toronto(2-7) 

Post#234 » by InFlames » Sun Nov 18, 2012 8:25 pm

Bobby Ray wrote:Am i the only one more comfortable with Nicholson trying to get us a bucket than Baby? Nicholson just seems smarter offensively than Baby is. I just wished Baby gave consistent effort on the defensive end because he's known for his hustle but it's like a switch he turns on and off


No you aren't the only one. Nicholson is WAY better than him offensively, Nicholson is probably the best offensive player on the team. He needs more minutes.
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Re: GT:Orlando(3-5) @ Toronto(2-7) 

Post#235 » by KillMonger » Sun Nov 18, 2012 8:37 pm

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Bobby Ray wrote:Am i the only one more comfortable with Nicholson trying to get us a bucket than Baby? Nicholson just seems smarter offensively than Baby is. I just wished Baby gave consistent effort on the defensive end because he's known for his hustle but it's like a switch he turns on and off


No you aren't the only one. Nicholson is WAY better than him offensively, Nicholson is probably the best offensive player on the team. He needs more minutes.

I trust coach for the most part but we need to get him in the game more and go to him more. He's just a smarter player he's not going to force it if he doesn't have it and with him i have only seen him shoot a few bad shots but those few bad shots was only when he shot it too quickly. He always seems to use what the defense gives him, if they're giving him the shot he'll take it if not then he'll drive it but he will make a pass when he should.

I like high Basketball IQ guys and that's why i like the prospect of Redick and Nicholson playing together because they're both High IQ guys and i think a Nicholson/JJ two man game would be better than a Baby/JJ two man game
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Re: GT:Orlando(3-5) @ Toronto(2-7) 

Post#236 » by doct3r dr3 » Sun Nov 18, 2012 8:43 pm

third straight game of nicholson leading the team in +/-

i dunno how much to read into that tho, in this game he was really inefficient. missed his first 5 or so shots. and he was getting burned on the pick n roll. his +/- had more to do with his minutes coming when bargnani was on the bench.

Bobby Ray wrote:Am i the only one more comfortable with Nicholson trying to get us a bucket than Baby? Nicholson just seems smarter offensively than Baby is. I just wished Baby gave consistent effort on the defensive end because he's known for his hustle but it's like a switch he turns on and off


i don't have a problem when bbd gets the ball right by the rim. i trust him to be able to barrel through people and muscle up a good shot. but as far as catching it from 20 ft and facing up, i'd prefer to see nicholson doing it.
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Re: GT:Orlando(3-5) @ Toronto(2-7) 

Post#237 » by magicman112 » Sun Nov 18, 2012 8:45 pm

When is Harrington back? Supposed to be about now right? He should take away the minutes that McAhole is getting and give some production there.
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Re: GT:Orlando(3-5) @ Toronto(2-7) 

Post#238 » by AdamTheGreek » Sun Nov 18, 2012 8:49 pm

Should've had that one.
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Re: GT:Orlando(3-5) @ Toronto(2-7) 

Post#239 » by KillMonger » Sun Nov 18, 2012 8:50 pm

Jesus why is Coach giving these Stiffs minutes man?

Gustavo/McRoberts: 26 minutes/4 points/5 rebounds
Nicholson: 15 minutes/8 points/3 rebounds

Am i the only one seeing this? Nicholson outplayed both of those guys combined
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Re: GT:Orlando(3-5) @ Toronto(2-7) 

Post#240 » by magicman123 » Sun Nov 18, 2012 8:53 pm

Bobby Ray wrote:Jesus why is Coach giving these Stiffs minutes man?

Gustavo/McRoberts: 26 minutes/4 points/5 rebounds
Nicholson: 15 minutes/8 points/3 rebounds

Am i the only one seeing this? Nicholson outplayed both of those guys combined


Vaughn is a smart guy, I gotta believe hes been ordered to play those players for trade purposes, at least i hope, because they shouldn't be playing

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