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Re: Bradley Beal 

Post#621 » by omegatronic3 » Sat Dec 1, 2012 5:53 am

looks like a decent game tonight...I didnt see it but how did he look. This is the kind of stat line Im ok with 14 points on 5 for 11. At this point Id rather see Beal have a good game than the Wiz win a game. Beals has been a dissapointment but his development is critical to this team.
I dont really expect Beal to be an all star but if he is a starting quality 2 who can defend his position then ill be satisfied.

I agree with those who say we should have traded Crawford...hes too similar to Beal and a bad role model for him.
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Post#622 » by Knighthonor » Sat Dec 1, 2012 8:18 am

perhaps they should require him to use is first season as a practice for his confidence, and require him to take at least 20 shots per game.

that should greatly improve his shot confidence.
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Post#623 » by blazinskillz » Sat Dec 1, 2012 4:20 pm

I like Beal but in this thread i believe some people said he was better than Wall. that reminds me not to take some of you guys seriously.
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Post#624 » by payitforward » Sat Dec 1, 2012 5:31 pm

blazinskillz wrote:I like Beal but in this thread i believe some people said he was better than Wall. that reminds me not to take some of you guys seriously.

...just as your overrating Wall reminds me not to take you seriously.
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Post#625 » by blazinskillz » Sat Dec 1, 2012 5:43 pm

payitforward wrote:
blazinskillz wrote:I like Beal but in this thread i believe some people said he was better than Wall. that reminds me not to take some of you guys seriously.

...just as your overrating Wall reminds me not to take you seriously.

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I really don't care if we don't share the same opinions, I rather overrate Wall than make assumptions off of preseason and practice games.
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Post#626 » by MJG » Sat Dec 1, 2012 5:51 pm

blazinskillz wrote:
payitforward wrote:
blazinskillz wrote:I like Beal but in this thread i believe some people said he was better than Wall. that reminds me not to take some of you guys seriously.

...just as your overrating Wall reminds me not to take you seriously.

Somebody is guilty.
I really don't care if we don't share the same opinions, I rather overrate Wall than make assumptions off of preseason and practice games.

Why would you rather do that?
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Post#627 » by blazinskillz » Sat Dec 1, 2012 6:00 pm

MJG wrote:
blazinskillz wrote:[quote="payitforward"
...just as your overrating Wall reminds me not to take you seriously.

Somebody is guilty.
I really don't care if we don't share the same opinions, I rather overrate Wall than make assumptions off of preseason and practice games.

Why would you rather do that?[/quote]
He said I overrate Wall. If I overrate Wall, I'm overrating what I've seen out of him in the last 2 years. I don't know if it was him or CCj that said Beal is already better than Wall but that assumption was made off of preseason and practice games. Thus far Wall has obviously been the better player by far, no contest. I root for Beal every game and feel he might have a break out 3rd season like Harden did but thus far he has not even been better than Crawford and that's being completely honest. I do not want the Wizards to trade him, he's still learning and will eventually get there.
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Post#628 » by DCZards » Wed Dec 12, 2012 4:13 am

I'm liking the steady improvement I'm seeing from BB. He still needs to hit those open short jumpers, but he's clearly growing more and more confident. Beal's all around game is starting to emerge as he grows more comfortable playing at this level. The kid's going to be a very good NBA player.
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Post#629 » by Jay81 » Wed Dec 12, 2012 4:18 am

Just for my own relief...Id like to see Beal have a 35 point outburst on 13-22 shooting 7-8 from the line
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Post#630 » by DCZards » Wed Dec 12, 2012 4:25 am

Jay81 wrote:Just for my own relief...Id like to see Beal have a 35 point outburst on 13-22 shooting 7-8 from the line


That day will come. Right now he's playing smart basketball...not forcing anything and playing under control most of the time. Impressive stuff for a 19 year old, IMO.
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Post#631 » by dangermouse » Wed Dec 12, 2012 4:28 am

Personally, I think Beal is looking much improved, and is looking like he will be a stud. But, he will never be a prolific scorer type of SG that gets all the limelight. Which I think is perfect for us with Wall at the point. Beal seems like he will be the perfect jack of all trades guy to put next to Wall long term. Comparison = Hersey Hawkins? He is an excellent rebounder, a good defender, and Im sure he will shoot better when he doesnt need to set up most of his own shots.
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Post#632 » by dangermouse » Wed Dec 12, 2012 4:32 am

Also he is listed at 6'3" but i swear he is almost the exact same height as Crawford.
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Post#633 » by Jimmy Recard » Wed Dec 12, 2012 5:00 am

DM, he measured out to 6' 4.75" at the pre-draft measurements, no?

Pretty sure he's listed at at least 6'4.

And i agree with pretty much everything you said. I don't foresee him ever being a great scorer, and definitely not a first or even second option for a contending team. Just doesn't have the ability to break defenders down off the dribble, not a great finisher due to him being a below the rim player, doesn't execute the pick n roll all that well (something that Harden excels at, sorry but i had to go there :lol:), and a really disappointing shooter thus far, both off the dribble and catch and shoot. Of course, i expect him to get better at every facet with more experience, but some of his deficiencies - which i've already noted - are a bit alarming, especially his shooting ability, or lack thereof. His poor shooting has really surprised me, i remember watching him drain jumper after jumper (i can't even remember seeing him miss) when the Wizards worked him out before the draft. Of course, and empty gym doesn't quite have the same atmosphere as an NBA game. But still, i'm watching him out there miss OPEN jump shots with regularity, and it seems like he has good form and mechanics, so i don't know what to make of it.

Having said all of that, i think he has potential be a great third option for a contender. Despite his shooting woes thus far, i've been impressed with the rest of his game; his rebounding, passing and especially his defense. I think he'll be fine, i just hope his jumper comes around..
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Post#634 » by AFM » Wed Dec 12, 2012 5:28 am

Yep, he's listed at 6'5" although I think that's rounding up.
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Re: Bradley Beal 

Post#635 » by DANNYLANDOVER » Wed Dec 12, 2012 9:00 am

I like Beal and I think he would turn out to be a solid player. That said, I would have drafted Drummond or Jeremy Lamb over him. He's been playing better lately. Not picking up his dribble under pressure and turning the ball over. He plays good defense and is a pretty good free throw shooter. What I'm surprised at is that the one thing that I thought he was gonna be a specialist at - shooting - he's not doing too well. I think he would be a terrible fit next to John if he doesn't start knocking those WIDE open shots down, because he will be getting a lot of them with John. Nice to see that he's not gonna be a one-trick pony though, but he still has to improve his handles. Maybe, that's what's stopping him from blowing past defenders and getting to the rim?
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Re: Bradley Beal 

Post#636 » by omegatronic3 » Wed Dec 12, 2012 9:19 am

watched the game agains the Warriors and Beal was pretty invisible. It is good to see him putting up some solid numbers but he's doing it in a very quiet way. Id like to see a little more swagger. Hes very passive and when he drives it seems like its more to pass...maybe hed be better as a pg.

Anyway to pass up having Harden for Beal and Singleton was pretty dumb. Harden and Wall woulda been a nice back court. Oh well lets hope Brad finds his stroke and keeps improving. I'm sorry but the Wiz have to be the most boring team in the league to watch. Who the hell is thereto get excited about? Our game plan is Crawford jacksup shots if hes on were in the game if not were dead. Not a very good recipe for success if you ask me
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Post#637 » by hands11 » Wed Dec 12, 2012 2:07 pm

http://www.nba.com/wizards/video/2012/1 ... mv-2322852

Game starting to slow down for him. Finding his reads better. Likes playing with Crawford. It makes things easier for him.


http://www.nba.com/wizards/video/2012/1 ... mv-2322849

I like the comments about how he was trying to figure out what the team needed. That is the approach I like from a PG who is also a scorer. Feel the game out. Pass if you can to get others involved but when the offense struggles, that when you have to take on more of the scoring load.

It was his first game starting at PG. Hopefully things look better tonight at the start of the game. But other players need to step it up. I still don't like Randy's starting line up. Having Crawford out there is a good move in the right direction. It helps Beal. Now they need to add a post threat. If Nene isn't ready, then it has to be Kevin.

Crawford, Beal, Singleton, Kevin, Okafor. I wish is was
Crawford, Beal, Singleton, Kevin and Nene or Martin for Singleton if Martin is hot.

They still need to ride the hot shooting hand at SF between Singleton, Martin and Webster. None have proven to bring it consistently yet so its a game by game thing. Randy has to be quick to adjust at that spot.
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Re: Bradley Beal 

Post#638 » by tontoz » Wed Dec 12, 2012 2:53 pm

Beal measured 6'3.25 barefoot, only .75" shorter than Lamb.
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Re: Bradley Beal 

Post#639 » by nate33 » Wed Dec 12, 2012 3:10 pm

Beal, Crawford and Lamb were all essentially the same height. Beal has the better wingspan but Crawford has a slightly better standing reach (and both are a bit longer than Lamb). Beal has the best vertical leap and a way better max vertical.

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Name             HTnoSH    Span     StndRch   Vert     Mx Vrt
Jordan Crawford  6'3"      6'7"     8'5"      31.5     34.5 
Bradley Beal     6'3.25"   6'8"     8'4"      33       39   
Doron Lamb       6'3.25"   6'6.75"  8'2.5"    29       33.5 
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Post#640 » by DCZards » Wed Dec 12, 2012 3:23 pm

nate33 wrote:Beal, Crawford and Lamb were all essentially the same height. Beal has the better wingspan but Crawford has a slightly better standing reach (and both are a bit longer than Lamb). Beal has the best vertical leap and a way better max vertical.

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Name             HTnoSH    Span     StndRch   Vert     Mx Vrt
Jordan Crawford  6'3"      6'7"     8'5"      31.5     34.5 
Bradley Beal     6'3.25"   6'8"     8'4"      33       39   
Doron Lamb       6'3.25"   6'6.75"  8'2.5"    29       33.5 


It was Jeremy Lamb that people were talking about...although I really like Doron (great shooter) and wish the Zards had taken him in the second round (I think he was available).

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