ardee wrote:Don't see how this isn't Pele.
- Best player on 3 World Cup teams
That's a myth. Garrincha was heads and shoulders above anyone else in 1962 (Pele didn't even play for most of the tournament) and also in 1958.
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ardee wrote:Don't see how this isn't Pele.
- Best player on 3 World Cup teams
Deep into that darkness peering, long I stood there wondering, fearing, Doubting, dreaming dreams no mortal ever dared to dream before;
Blank_Name wrote:Considering all the awards Messi is receiving and his team mates at Argentina, World Cup '14 being so close. Short of injury, absolutely no reason for the team not making the QuarterFinals. And yeah Barcelona winning atleast 1 Champions League title in the next 2 seasons is a must.
This guy is getting Michael Jordan treatment.....without the actual Championships. La Liga is a joke
Stat Padder wrote:ardee wrote:Stat Padder wrote:Pele is overrated like Wilt Chamberlain. Both were stat padders back in the day. Messi is the GOAT.
Please tell me you forgot the green font.
Pele has a bigger gap over the rest of the football pantheon than Jordan does over the NBA pantheon.
Could you explain why you think this please ?
Stat Padder wrote:ardee wrote:Stat Padder wrote:
Please tell me you forgot the green font.
Pele has a bigger gap over the rest of the football pantheon than Jordan does over the NBA pantheon.
Could you explain why you think this please ?
Because he was a revolutionary player like George Mikan.
Because he is a winner like Bill Russell.
Because he is the in game recordist like Wilt Chamberlain.
Because he has the longevity records that Kareem Abdul-Jabbar.
Because he rose above all on the most dominant generation of offensive players the football has ever seen, like Jordan rose above the 90s crop of superstars in the NBA.
shawn_hemp wrote: a guy who is far worse than Robert Covington in Brandon Ingram, and a guy who is no better than TJ McConnell or Tony Wroten in D'Angelo Russell.
J-Mezzy wrote:Blank_Name wrote:Considering all the awards Messi is receiving and his team mates at Argentina, World Cup '14 being so close. Short of injury, absolutely no reason for the team not making the QuarterFinals. And yeah Barcelona winning atleast 1 Champions League title in the next 2 seasons is a must.
This guy is getting Michael Jordan treatment.....without the actual Championships. La Liga is a joke
He's won the champions league twice, not an easy task. I keep hearing about how la liga is a joke. Why? All of their teams Valencia, Malaga, Barcelona, and Madrid moved on to the next round of champions league. La Liga does well in Europa League too. Last years semifinals had A. Madrid, Valencia, and A. Bilbao. Barcelona has to compete with Madrid for La Liga, whom many consider one of the top 3 clubs in the world. Tell me what other league Barcelona wouldn't be a favorite to win? Maybe Bayern would give them a run in Budesliga, but Barcelona would be the hands down favorite in every league in the world.
Also La Liga is a joke because only 2 clubs contend? Isn't that the case everywhere? EPL has become the Madrid derby with the fall of clubs like Arsenal and Liverpool. Looks like only Chelsea might challenge them in the next few years. Bayern has a huge lead in the Bundesliga and that league is dominated by them and Dortmund. Juventus won the title undefeated last season in Italy. France is all about Lyon and big spending PSG. Poerugal is dominated by Benefica and Porto.
To take away from what Messi and Barcelona does is the joke here, not la Liga.
tlee324 wrote:
Lebron made it to the finals with that cleveland team.
Bird would have won 4 rings with that team, in this weak ass era of basketball.
iago89 wrote:who thinks thath messi in another league would not be the best?
Francois wrote:Lol at Messi gagnant. Zinedine Zidane numéro un
bigboi wrote:J-Mezzy wrote:Blank_Name wrote:Considering all the awards Messi is receiving and his team mates at Argentina, World Cup '14 being so close. Short of injury, absolutely no reason for the team not making the QuarterFinals. And yeah Barcelona winning atleast 1 Champions League title in the next 2 seasons is a must.
This guy is getting Michael Jordan treatment.....without the actual Championships. La Liga is a joke
He's won the champions league twice, not an easy task. I keep hearing about how la liga is a joke. Why? All of their teams Valencia, Malaga, Barcelona, and Madrid moved on to the next round of champions league. La Liga does well in Europa League too. Last years semifinals had A. Madrid, Valencia, and A. Bilbao. Barcelona has to compete with Madrid for La Liga, whom many consider one of the top 3 clubs in the world. Tell me what other league Barcelona wouldn't be a favorite to win? Maybe Bayern would give them a run in Budesliga, but Barcelona would be the hands down favorite in every league in the world.
Also La Liga is a joke because only 2 clubs contend? Isn't that the case everywhere? EPL has become the Madrid derby with the fall of clubs like Arsenal and Liverpool. Looks like only Chelsea might challenge them in the next few years. Bayern has a huge lead in the Bundesliga and that league is dominated by them and Dortmund. Juventus won the title undefeated last season in Italy. France is all about Lyon and big spending PSG. Poerugal is dominated by Benefica and Porto.
To take away from what Messi and Barcelona does is the joke here, not la Liga.
Lets be honest here, Messi's goals are a little inflated due to playing in Barcelona and La Liga. La Liga is a pretty below average league, especially considering that Barca has some of the best players in the world on the team. Not taking anything from Messi, he is a monster, but no way does he put up these stats on another club or in another league and he is yet to perform at an elite level on the international stage
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