The OFFICIAL Rookie impressions thread pt. II

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Re: The OFFICIAL Rookie impressions thread pt. II 

Post#1341 » by mid-post » Mon Jan 21, 2013 4:29 pm

Actually Yao broke his left ankle twice over the span of a couple years before he even reached the NBA and some have claimed it was treated incorrectly.

Then he played through injury/came back too early/played lots of minutes when he got hurt again in the NBA.
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Re: The OFFICIAL Rookie impressions thread pt. II 

Post#1342 » by TheBigThree » Mon Jan 21, 2013 7:54 pm

Beal versus Lillard tonight, should be a good game.
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Re: The OFFICIAL Rookie impressions thread pt. II 

Post#1343 » by NoDopeOnSundays » Mon Jan 21, 2013 10:30 pm

Wizenheimer wrote:
Onioneer wrote:Drummond with 16pts, 7 rebs, a block and a steal in 20 minutes on 5/6 shooting including 6/8 from FT. Also interesting, the pistons' announcers said he's up from 280 to 297 pounds, and still athletic beyond belief.


speaking as a Blazer fan who went through the Greg Oden ordeal, I wouldn't be happy about Drummond carrying more weight rather then less. Those extra pounds add a lot of stress and impact to the knees and lower body on every step, and especially every time he jumps and lands

body mass does not necessarily equal core strength. Especially not for a guy as young as Drummond.



The fundamental difference between Drummond and Oden is that Oden put on a lot of upper body weight after he injured his knee the first time, while Drummond has always had massive legs. His lower body is accustomed to the weight and is part of the reason he weighs so much to begin with.

Oden has thin calves/legs -

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Drummond at 17 years old -

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His frame is built to handle weight.
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Re: The OFFICIAL Rookie impressions thread pt. II 

Post#1344 » by Han Solo » Mon Jan 21, 2013 10:48 pm

Drummond against the Celtics was absolutely filthy.
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Post#1345 » by Han Solo » Mon Jan 21, 2013 11:01 pm

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=czs9XY6FRRw[/youtube]

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Re: The OFFICIAL Rookie impressions thread pt. II 

Post#1346 » by Han Solo » Mon Jan 21, 2013 11:07 pm

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2b1EkQv2hsU[/youtube]
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Post#1347 » by Goldtop » Tue Jan 22, 2013 1:07 am

Drummond is now up to 10th in the league in offensive rating. He's also 6th in defensive rating. Only player in the league in top 10 in both.

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Post#1348 » by roc » Tue Jan 22, 2013 1:23 am

Goldtop wrote:Drummond is now up to 10th in the league in offensive rating. He's also 6th in defensive rating. Only player in the league in top 10 in both.

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nobody else is even top 20 in both
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Re: The OFFICIAL Rookie impressions thread pt. II 

Post#1349 » by Blkbrd671 » Tue Jan 22, 2013 1:29 am

Goldtop wrote:Drummond is now up to 10th in the league in offensive rating. He's also 6th in defensive rating. Only player in the league in top 10 in both.

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idk, but when you have Tyson Chandler at the top of any offensive statistical ratings list, imo doesn't really hold a lot of weight
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Re: The OFFICIAL Rookie impressions thread pt. II 

Post#1350 » by Bskey » Tue Jan 22, 2013 1:31 am

My dream draft of Lillard/Drummond would have been so great. I've been saying Drummond has a chance to be the best player in the draft to people for years and still believed it after his college season. Happy to see him doing so well so early, but I really wish we managed to get him instead of Leonard. Can't complain about Lillard though.

Blkbrd671 wrote:idk, but when you have Tyson Chandler at the top of any offensive statistical ratings list, imo doesn't really hold a lot of weight


It certainly needs to be put into context. Drummond is NOT a top 10 offensive player, not even close.

That however is a good indication that he's succeeding where he needs to atm.
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Post#1351 » by He Filled it Up » Tue Jan 22, 2013 1:56 am

r0cd0gg wrote:nobody else is even top 20 in both

I see Splitter on both lists...
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Re: The OFFICIAL Rookie impressions thread pt. II 

Post#1352 » by NO-KG-AI » Tue Jan 22, 2013 2:32 am

Drummond doesn't look 297 at all. He actually looks less than the 279 or whatever he was at. He looks way more active and energetic than he was last year.

I missed the Hornets game tonight, but Davis was 5-7 for 11 points, 6 rebounds, 3 blocks and one steal in 15 minutes. He had no turnovers and no fouls, I guess it was because Ryan Anderson was 7-14 from downtown that they kept him out :dontknow:
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Re: The OFFICIAL Rookie impressions thread pt. II 

Post#1353 » by mid-post » Tue Jan 22, 2013 3:49 am

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uB0pPYrpKfw[/youtube]
At about 2:50 in this video he says he's at 270 after losing 22 pounds. That would have put him in the 290s at UConn. He weighed 279 (7.5% body fat) at the predraft camp, so who knows, maybe he put a lot of that weight back on. Either way, dude is unreal.

And it's pretty funny to see how pissed he gets when people bring up his motor and all that in the predraft interviews. :lol: #redflags #characterissues
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Post#1354 » by sir G Wallace » Tue Jan 22, 2013 4:18 am

Maybe Drummond has been doing different core excercises which increased his weight but made him look more well shaped as well
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Post#1355 » by GhostsOfGil » Tue Jan 22, 2013 4:38 am

Beal vs Lillard... turned out to be a stinker. 2-17 shooting between the 2 of them so far.
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Re: The OFFICIAL Rookie impressions thread pt. II 

Post#1356 » by branny » Tue Jan 22, 2013 5:06 am

GhostsOfGil wrote:Beal vs Lillard... turned out to be a stinker. 2-17 shooting between the 2 of them so far.

Was hoping for better.. :(
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Re: The OFFICIAL Rookie impressions thread pt. II 

Post#1357 » by TheBigThree » Tue Jan 22, 2013 5:21 am

Lillard turned it on in the 4th, Beal didn't really get the chance because Crawford came in hot.
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Re: The OFFICIAL Rookie impressions thread pt. II 

Post#1358 » by nin10doe » Tue Jan 22, 2013 5:32 am

NO-KG-AI wrote:Drummond doesn't look 297 at all. He actually looks less than the 279 or whatever he was at. He looks way more active and energetic than he was last year.

I missed the Hornets game tonight, but Davis was 5-7 for 11 points, 6 rebounds, 3 blocks and one steal in 15 minutes. He had no turnovers and no fouls, I guess it was because Ryan Anderson was 7-14 from downtown that they kept him out :dontknow:

Davis stepped on a ref's foot and sprained his ankle in the 2nd quarter. Sucks because he's been playing great lately and was off to a great start vs. Sacto. Its the same ankle that kept him out of games earlier this year. He says its not serious and he shouldn't miss any games, though.
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Re: The OFFICIAL Rookie impressions thread pt. II 

Post#1359 » by deepeeenn » Tue Jan 22, 2013 6:27 am

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=apZuFSyE45o/[/youtube]
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Re: The OFFICIAL Rookie impressions thread pt. II 

Post#1360 » by Shem » Tue Jan 22, 2013 7:25 am

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