Lopez-Love-Dwight Rumor
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People are not looking at this closely enough from Wolves side of things.
While Lopez is under contract he is a center, along with Pek, so resigning Pek becomes not needed a trade for him would also need to be followed up.. Next Minn would need to find a rebounding PF to play next to Lopez, they dont have one on their roster after this move..
Lastly, you need to find enough REAL high quality assets to make MINN give up Love for just Lopez alone and then deal with moving Pek and so on..
The same will be said for POR or anyone else where they are trying to get a PF moved a deal..
Also the underlining note here is that Dwight is killing Mike D as a coach.. Calling for inside out game.. that isnt his style nor is it something Kobe is going to settle for.
As crazy as it sounds, if Mike D is the coach, I see a deal with NOH... move Lopez to play with his brother and Davis and have Ryan Anderson goto LA to play next to Pau.. or even Robin be a part of the deal to replace Pau down the road...
Lopez, Davis, SF, Gordon, Vasquez could be the start to a nice starting 5..
While Lopez is under contract he is a center, along with Pek, so resigning Pek becomes not needed a trade for him would also need to be followed up.. Next Minn would need to find a rebounding PF to play next to Lopez, they dont have one on their roster after this move..
Lastly, you need to find enough REAL high quality assets to make MINN give up Love for just Lopez alone and then deal with moving Pek and so on..
The same will be said for POR or anyone else where they are trying to get a PF moved a deal..
Also the underlining note here is that Dwight is killing Mike D as a coach.. Calling for inside out game.. that isnt his style nor is it something Kobe is going to settle for.
As crazy as it sounds, if Mike D is the coach, I see a deal with NOH... move Lopez to play with his brother and Davis and have Ryan Anderson goto LA to play next to Pau.. or even Robin be a part of the deal to replace Pau down the road...
Lopez, Davis, SF, Gordon, Vasquez could be the start to a nice starting 5..
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parson wrote:Reading the proposed trade, IF MIN were looking to trade Love to LA and IF MIN were willing to lose Pekovic, then why wouldn't THEY want Howard? Remember, they're losing Love anyway if they don't improve, as he'll exercise his option to leave early.
Also, they have Rubio, a pretty good (and young) PG to make Howard look good, and Derrick Williams, who's developed a good 3pt shot for a PF.
Add in whatever they can get by trading Pekovic and they're a very good team.
This all reads like NY wishful thinking from the journalists to sell newspapers. I'm sure EVERY GM is planning trade offers for Dwight Howard if the Lakers look like they're worried about keeping him.
Howard wouldn't resign in MN. If "we're losing Love anyway" then I'd rather trade him for a player(s) we could have under contract for several years.
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Yeah im down for that deal. Dwights apathy is pretty hard to watch and he has no back to the basket game what so ever. The only way id be down tomovefoward with Dwight wasif that CP3 deal didnt get vetoed. Id also ask for Gerald Wallace in this deal
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DLeagueAllStars wrote:As crazy as it sounds, if Mike D is the coach, I see a deal with NOH... move Lopez to play with his brother and Davis and have Ryan Anderson goto LA to play next to Pau.. or even Robin be a part of the deal to replace Pau down the road...
Lopez, Davis, SF, Gordon, Vasquez could be the start to a nice starting 5..
It's an interesting idea, though I think the Lakers wanted Anderson to play WITH Dwight. Would a package of Anderson and Robin Lopez be enough?
For the Hornets, I like the idea of putting Brook next to Davis. I've liked that since the offseason. Just not sure how I feel about giving up Ryan Anderson who is soooo important to this team. If we got the full Nets package, including Brook, Marshon Brooks, picks, etc., I would say we would have to be pretty interested.
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I fear it might be...
LAL trades: Gasol, Howard
LAL receives: Lopez, Love, Humphries
Minny trades: Love, Roy
Minny receives: Gasol, Brooks, BKN 2013, BKN 2015
BKN trades: Lopez, Humphries, Brooks, BKN 2013
BKN receives: Howard, Roy
LAL revamps, gets younger, prepares for the future and gets ready to rumble in the West for the rest of this year to see if they can eek out a playoff spot.
BKN bags their rumored target in Howard. This trade assumes he has been extended.
Minny cashes in on Love who has been injured and showed a potential desire to leave anyway. This combines Gasol with Rubio, and gives Williams a better chance to develop.
LAL trades: Gasol, Howard
LAL receives: Lopez, Love, Humphries
Minny trades: Love, Roy
Minny receives: Gasol, Brooks, BKN 2013, BKN 2015
BKN trades: Lopez, Humphries, Brooks, BKN 2013
BKN receives: Howard, Roy
LAL revamps, gets younger, prepares for the future and gets ready to rumble in the West for the rest of this year to see if they can eek out a playoff spot.
BKN bags their rumored target in Howard. This trade assumes he has been extended.
Minny cashes in on Love who has been injured and showed a potential desire to leave anyway. This combines Gasol with Rubio, and gives Williams a better chance to develop.
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SideSwipe wrote:I fear it might be...
LAL trades: Gasol, Howard
LAL receives: Lopez, Love, Humphries
Minny trades: Love, Roy
Minny receives: Gasol, Brooks, BKN 2013, BKN 2015
BKN trades: Lopez, Humphries, Brooks, BKN 2013
BKN receives: Howard, Roy
LAL revamps, gets younger, prepares for the future and gets ready to rumble in the West for the rest of this year to see if they can eek out a playoff spot.
BKN bags their rumored target in Howard. This trade assumes he has been extended.
Minny cashes in on Love who has been injured and showed a potential desire to leave anyway. This combines Gasol with Rubio, and gives Williams a better chance to develop.
This is absolutely BRUTAL for the Wolves.
Hardly call an overpaid, 32-year old with bad knees "cashing in" on Love.
The Gasol/Rubio thing is simply poor logic. Just because they both speak Spanish doesn't mean that they are destined to be teammates.
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SideSwipe wrote:Minny trades: Love, Roy
Minny receives: Gasol, Brooks, BKN 2013, BKN 2015
Minny cashes in on Love who has been injured and showed a potential desire to leave anyway. This combines Gasol with Rubio, and gives Williams a better chance to develop.
Apparently what you consider "cashing in" means the Wolves getting bent over? God awful value for the Wolves, I think you meant to say the Lakers are the team "cashing in".
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Not sure I can think of a good permutation.
The problem is not the Nets or Lopez...its LA trying to suck the value out if another deal.
But, I'll try.
Bk
Lopez, Hump, Wallace, Stackhouse, Brooks, Taylor, #1
for
Dwight, Gasol, Jamison, Duhon, Ebanks
Minny
Love, Steisma, Ridnour
For
Lopez, Clark, Brooks, T.Taylor, #1, #2
LA
Dwight, Gasol, Clark, Ebanks, Jamison, Duhon, #2
for
Love, Wallace, Hump, Ridnour, Steisma, Stackhouse
The problem is not the Nets or Lopez...its LA trying to suck the value out if another deal.
But, I'll try.
Bk
Lopez, Hump, Wallace, Stackhouse, Brooks, Taylor, #1
for
Dwight, Gasol, Jamison, Duhon, Ebanks
Minny
Love, Steisma, Ridnour
For
Lopez, Clark, Brooks, T.Taylor, #1, #2
LA
Dwight, Gasol, Clark, Ebanks, Jamison, Duhon, #2
for
Love, Wallace, Hump, Ridnour, Steisma, Stackhouse
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Trader_Joe wrote:Not sure I can think of a good permutation.
The problem is not the Nets or Lopez...its LA trying to suck the value out if another deal.
But, I'll try.
Bk
Lopez, Hump, Wallace, Stackhouse, Brooks, Taylor, #1
for
Dwight, Gasol, Jamison, Duhon, Ebanks
Minny
Love, Steisma, Ridnour
For
Lopez, Clark, Brooks, T.Taylor, #1, #2
LA
Dwight, Gasol, Clark, Ebanks, Jamison, Duhon, #2
for
Love, Wallace, Hump, Ridnour, Steisma, Stackhouse
Issue for Wolves is fit or more specifically lack there of, Lopez is a good player but he's not a big enough upgrade over Pek to move Love. Doing a deal like this does not put the Wolves any closer to becoming a playoff team and at the same time does not restart any sort of rebuilding process, its a lose/lose deal that gets them stuck in the late lotto.
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How about Dwight to Atlanta, Horford to Minny, and Love to LA?
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ORANGEandBLUE wrote:How about Dwight to Atlanta, Horford to Minny, and Love to LA?
Wolves still need another valuable asset to downgrade from Love to Horford, problem being neither LA or ATL has a promising young piece or valuable pick(s).
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How about Love to LAL, Horford/Brooks/1st to Minny,Lopez to Atlanta and Dwight to Brooklyn?
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Krapinsky wrote:Howard wouldn't resign in MN. If "we're losing Love anyway" then I'd rather trade him for a player(s) we could have under contract for several years.
Maybe, but Love-for-Howard is a great trade while Love-for-Lopez is a poor exchange for the Wolves. If Howard enjoyed playing with Rubio, who knows what could happen?
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I imagine the Nuggs would be interested in Lopez, if the Lakers would prefer, say McGee and Iguodola. Some extras needed to make $ work. Something like D12, ebanks to BRK; McGee and AI to LA; Lopez, Teletovic to DEN
More free is better
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None of the deals above have the value needed to move Love from the Minn when they still have Pek at center...
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vincecarter4pres wrote:How about Love to LAL, Horford/Brooks/1st to Minny,Lopez to Atlanta and Dwight to Brooklyn?
ATL has an inside track at obtaining Howard if he goes to free agency and we're going to help a team that has no chance of signing him to a FA contract?
Man, the Nets would have to pay us a ton for us to help them like that. And we wouldn't offer Horford in that kind of an exchange.
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parson wrote:vincecarter4pres wrote:How about Love to LAL, Horford/Brooks/1st to Minny,Lopez to Atlanta and Dwight to Brooklyn?
ATL has an inside track at obtaining Howard if he goes to free agency and we're going to help a team that has no chance of signing him to a FA contract?
Man, the Nets would have to pay us a ton for us to help them like that. And we wouldn't offer Horford in that kind of an exchange.
I'm sorry but Howard to Atlanta is just such an ultra long shot.
It'll go force his way to BK now, walk to Dallas or Houston, then walk to Atlanta if he doesn't stay in LA.
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And yet, the Hawks are being mentioned more and more. Just yesterday, I saw an article where Magic Johnson told the Mavericks that they'd better empty the bank for Howard before he ends up in ATL.
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parson wrote:And yet, the Hawks are being mentioned more and more. Just yesterday, I saw an article where Magic Johnson told the Mavericks that they'd better empty the bank for Howard before he ends up in ATL.
When you're using Magic as your source you know you're wishing on a star haha.
Eh man, more power to you if the Hawks get him, I would be absolutely shocked though.
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the only good thing about trading with atlanta is getting a locked-up at a great price 4 years of al horford. at this point with how dwight and love seemingly want out of their situations, i'd think twolves or lakers would do the deal just to be over it.
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