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Re: DD Can't Be Apart of the Core 

Post#61 » by YoungD23 » Wed Jan 23, 2013 12:34 pm

Got Em wrote:http://www.learnenglish.de/mistakes/apartvsa_part.htm

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apart vs a part
Apart (adv) separated by distance or time.

For example: I always feel so lonely when we're apart.

A part(noun) a piece of something that forms the whole of something.

For example: They made me feel like I was a part of the family.
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Re: DD Can't Be Apart of the Core 

Post#62 » by Jtoneller1 » Wed Jan 23, 2013 12:53 pm

All the DeMar apologists continually point out that he is only 23 like he is yet to unlock this awesome potential or something. He's been in the league for four years and hasn't noticeably improved in any area of his game since his second year. Your wing players have to be able to either create in isolation or shoot the three consistently. DeMar needs screens and picks to get his game off at all because his first step and handles are horrible. Ross is a rookie but he has some of the characteristics mentioned above. He's athletic and smooth, can shoot the three better than DeMar ever could, and plays very good defence. You can't teach or improve athleticism. DeMar doesn't have it and has never had it, so its ridiculous to think that he will become a D-Wade type of go-to-scorer at any time in his career. We need to trade him asap and try to land Wiggins in next years draft to complement Ross moving forward.
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Re: DD Can't Be Apart of the Core 

Post#63 » by JPHolling » Wed Jan 23, 2013 12:55 pm

He just needs to be on the juice for 1 summer... and he'll be a solid-to very good SF in this league. Then shift T ross to the sg... and everyones happy. Demar works hard and has improved every season. Is he worth his contract? no. But atleast hes always improving
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Re: DD Can't Be Apart of the Core 

Post#64 » by Homer Jay » Wed Jan 23, 2013 8:51 pm

I think at this point, the best thing for Demar is too bulk up and try to play the 3. He's just emerging more and more as lacking the skills to play SG. When I watch it is obvious watching Ross and AA what skills a SG should possess and Demar lacks just too many at this point.
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Re: DD Can't Be Apart of the Core 

Post#65 » by Dr Positivity » Wed Jan 23, 2013 9:11 pm

DD Can't Be Apart of the Core


BC: You're right, I will make sure DD and the core will never be apart!
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Re: DD Can't Be Apart of the Core 

Post#66 » by maxpower88 » Wed Jan 23, 2013 9:11 pm

What irks me the most about these DD critics is that they keep bringing up the thing's he's bad at NOW. But when you compare him to his first year in the league he's added a lot of skills to his repertoire and improved on the skills he already had.

Sure he doesn't have a 3 point shot NOW, or his handles aren't great NOW. But he has improved on all of these things each season. Don't give up on the guy just because he hits a slump. You never know how good a player can get when things start clicking.
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Re: DD Can't Be Apart of the Core 

Post#67 » by maxpower88 » Wed Jan 23, 2013 9:11 pm

Dr Positivity wrote:
DD Can't Be Apart of the Core


BC: You're right, I will make sure DD and the core will never be apart!


Haha I wanted to mention this to but I figured with the thread being 5 pages someone already had me beat.
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Re: DD Can't Be Apart of the Core 

Post#68 » by Dr Positivity » Wed Jan 23, 2013 9:13 pm

maxpower88 wrote:What irks me the most about these DD critics is that they keep bringing up the thing's he's bad at NOW. But when you compare him to his first year in the league he's added a lot of skills to his repertoire and improved on the skills he already had.

Sure he doesn't have a 3 point shot NOW, or his handles aren't great NOW. But he has improved on all of these things each season. Don't give up on the guy just because he hits a slump. You never know how good a player can get when things start clicking.


First off his handles and 3pt shooting are the same as they were in his 3rd season

Secondly a player's development doesn't last forever. The vast, vast majority of players are what they are after where Demar is now - in his 4th season and over 8000 minutes played in the league
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Re: DD Can't Be Apart of the Core 

Post#69 » by maxpower88 » Wed Jan 23, 2013 9:20 pm

Dr Positivity wrote:
maxpower88 wrote:What irks me the most about these DD critics is that they keep bringing up the thing's he's bad at NOW. But when you compare him to his first year in the league he's added a lot of skills to his repertoire and improved on the skills he already had.

Sure he doesn't have a 3 point shot NOW, or his handles aren't great NOW. But he has improved on all of these things each season. Don't give up on the guy just because he hits a slump. You never know how good a player can get when things start clicking.


First off his handles and 3pt shooting are the same as they were in his 3rd season

Secondly a player's development doesn't last forever. The vast, vast majority of players are what they are after where Demar is now - in his 4th season and over 8000 minutes played in the league


That isn't true. His post game was greatly improved in the beginning of the season, he was showing improved handles. Lately he's just settled for jump shots so his handles are barely shown. His 3-point shooting hasn't improved that much since last season but he has been short of confidence lately.

Also I disagree with your 8000 minutes comment, that's just a generic number.
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Re: DD Can't Be Apart of the Core 

Post#70 » by Death Knight » Wed Jan 23, 2013 9:35 pm

He's only 23.........................Relax.
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Re: DD Can't Be Apart of the Core 

Post#72 » by StatsMan99 » Wed Jan 23, 2013 9:42 pm

maxpower88 wrote:What irks me the most about these DD critics is that they keep bringing up the thing's he's bad at NOW. But when you compare him to his first year in the league he's added a lot of skills to his repertoire and improved on the skills he already had.

Sure he doesn't have a 3 point shot NOW, or his handles aren't great NOW. But he has improved on all of these things each season. Don't give up on the guy just because he hits a slump. You never know how good a player can get when things start clicking.


He improved his three point shot each season? Really? You think he improved his three point shot from his rookie season to his second season? I disagree, and would like to hear your argument.

The bottom line is from a production standpoint, there are few if any players in the league who improved less from their rookie season to their fourth season.
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Re: DD Can't Be Apart of the Core 

Post#73 » by StatsMan99 » Wed Jan 23, 2013 9:48 pm

Yeah, DD has improved his three point shot in every season. He's gone from 25.0% as a rookie to 25.8% in his 4th year. An improvement of approximately 0.3% per year on average!!!
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Re: DD Can't Be Apart of the Core 

Post#74 » by dballislife » Wed Jan 23, 2013 9:56 pm

We're giving andrea 7 years and he was a 1st overall talent, gotta give demar more than 4, his first 4 years is comparable to some very good players

JJ
01-02 -- 77 60 24.9 0.430 0.292 0.774 1.0 2.4 3.3 2.3 0.8 0.3 0.92 1.48 7.5
02-03 PHX 82 34 27.5 0.397 0.366 0.774 0.7 2.5 3.2 2.6 0.8 0.2 1.32 1.74 9.8
03-04 PHX 82 77 40.6 0.430 0.305 0.750 1.0 3.7 4.7 4.4 1.1 0.3 2.43 2.16 16.7
04-05 PHX 82 82 39.5 0.461 0.478 0.750 1.5 3.7 5.1 3.5 1.0 0.3 1.80 2.04 17.1

Maggette
99-00 ORL 77 5 17.8 0.478 0.182 0.751 1.6 2.3 3.9 0.8 0.3 0.3 1.79 2.19 8.4
00-01 LAC 69 9 19.7 0.462 0.304 0.774 1.3 2.9 4.2 1.2 0.5 0.1 1.54 2.03 10.0
01-02 LAC 63 52 25.6 0.443 0.331 0.801 0.9 2.8 3.7 1.8 0.6 0.3 1.84 2.46 11.4
02-03 LAC 64 57 31.3 0.444 0.350 0.802 1.2 3.8 5.0 1.9 0.9 0.2 2.30 3.03 16.8

Jrich
01-02 GSW 80 75 32.9 0.426 0.333 0.671 1.6 2.7 4.3 3.0 1.3 0.4 2.00 2.44 14.4
02-03 GSW 82 82 32.9 0.410 0.368 0.764 1.4 3.3 4.6 3.0 1.1 0.3 2.18 2.45 15.6
03-04 GSW 78 78 37.6 0.438 0.282 0.684 1.6 5.1 6.7 2.9 1.1 0.5 2.51 2.33 18.7
04-05 GSW 72 72 37.8 0.446 0.338 0.693 1.7 4.2 5.9 3.9 1.5 0.4 2.35 2.17 21.7

Manu
02-03 SAS 69 5 20.7 0.438 0.345 0.737 0.7 1.7 2.3 2.0 1.4 0.2 1.45 2.46 7.6
03-04 SAS 77 38 29.4 0.418 0.359 0.802 1.1 3.4 4.5 3.8 1.8 0.2 2.09 2.35 12.8
04-05 SAS 74 74 29.6 0.471 0.376 0.803 1.0 3.4 4.4 3.9 1.6 0.4 2.32 2.57 16.0
05-06 SAS 65 56 27.9 0.462 0.382 0.778 0.6 2.9 3.5 3.6 1.6 0.4 1.86 2.40 15.1

he deserves heat but getting more cus we're losing
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Re: DD Can't Be Apart of the Core 

Post#75 » by StatsMan99 » Wed Jan 23, 2013 10:00 pm

dballislife wrote:We're giving andrea 7 years and he was a 1st overall talent, gotta give demar more than 4, his first 4 years is comparable to some very good players

JJ
01-02 -- 77 60 24.9 0.430 0.292 0.774 1.0 2.4 3.3 2.3 0.8 0.3 0.92 1.48 7.5
02-03 PHX 82 34 27.5 0.397 0.366 0.774 0.7 2.5 3.2 2.6 0.8 0.2 1.32 1.74 9.8
03-04 PHX 82 77 40.6 0.430 0.305 0.750 1.0 3.7 4.7 4.4 1.1 0.3 2.43 2.16 16.7
04-05 PHX 82 82 39.5 0.461 0.478 0.750 1.5 3.7 5.1 3.5 1.0 0.3 1.80 2.04 17.1

Maggette
99-00 ORL 77 5 17.8 0.478 0.182 0.751 1.6 2.3 3.9 0.8 0.3 0.3 1.79 2.19 8.4
00-01 LAC 69 9 19.7 0.462 0.304 0.774 1.3 2.9 4.2 1.2 0.5 0.1 1.54 2.03 10.0
01-02 LAC 63 52 25.6 0.443 0.331 0.801 0.9 2.8 3.7 1.8 0.6 0.3 1.84 2.46 11.4
02-03 LAC 64 57 31.3 0.444 0.350 0.802 1.2 3.8 5.0 1.9 0.9 0.2 2.30 3.03 16.8

Jrich
01-02 GSW 80 75 32.9 0.426 0.333 0.671 1.6 2.7 4.3 3.0 1.3 0.4 2.00 2.44 14.4
02-03 GSW 82 82 32.9 0.410 0.368 0.764 1.4 3.3 4.6 3.0 1.1 0.3 2.18 2.45 15.6
03-04 GSW 78 78 37.6 0.438 0.282 0.684 1.6 5.1 6.7 2.9 1.1 0.5 2.51 2.33 18.7
04-05 GSW 72 72 37.8 0.446 0.338 0.693 1.7 4.2 5.9 3.9 1.5 0.4 2.35 2.17 21.7

Manu
02-03 SAS 69 5 20.7 0.438 0.345 0.737 0.7 1.7 2.3 2.0 1.4 0.2 1.45 2.46 7.6
03-04 SAS 77 38 29.4 0.418 0.359 0.802 1.1 3.4 4.5 3.8 1.8 0.2 2.09 2.35 12.8
04-05 SAS 74 74 29.6 0.471 0.376 0.803 1.0 3.4 4.4 3.9 1.6 0.4 2.32 2.57 16.0
05-06 SAS 65 56 27.9 0.462 0.382 0.778 0.6 2.9 3.5 3.6 1.6 0.4 1.86 2.40 15.1

he deserves heat but getting more cus we're losing


I hate when people post garbage like this. Don't just copy and paste stuff that isn't in an easy to read format. For god's sakes, format it so it's not just a bunch of incomprehensible gibberish.
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Re: DD Can't Be Apart of the Core 

Post#77 » by Pooh_Jeter » Wed Jan 23, 2013 10:16 pm

Shooting 26% on 1.5 three pointers a game is nothing to be proud of.
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Re: DD Can't Be Apart of the Core 

Post#78 » by OhMyBosh » Wed Jan 23, 2013 10:26 pm

®ated wrote:
StatsMan99 wrote:Yeah, DD has improved his three point shot in every season. He's gone from 25.0% as a rookie to 25.8% in his 4th year. An improvement of approximately 0.3% per year on average!!!

please conveniently forget attempts over those years. K thx.


Not sure what you're getting at here, but let's just say this:

He's shooting 50 for 226 in his career. That's 22.1% from your shooting guard.
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Re: DD Can't Be Apart of the Core 

Post#79 » by OhMyBosh » Wed Jan 23, 2013 10:33 pm

DeMar is currently 23 years old, and is in his 4th NBA season. Can you even confidently tell me he is currently better than sophomore DeMar?

The only thing separating the two is that current DeMar is 10 lbs heavier than in 2010-2011. Otherwise, you have someone who gets heavy starter minutes, can't create for himself or others, underdeveloped on defense, can't shoot from three, inconsistent from mid-range, and can't provide anything outside of points.

So that's two years where "gym rat" DeRozan hasn't improved by the slightest. If he truly is a gym rat, this has got to be disheartening. What's the point of working so hard when you can't improve on anything?
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Re: DD Can't Be Apart of the Core 

Post#80 » by StatsMan99 » Wed Jan 23, 2013 10:35 pm

®ated wrote:
StatsMan99 wrote:Yeah, DD has improved his three point shot in every season. He's gone from 25.0% as a rookie to 25.8% in his 4th year. An improvement of approximately 0.3% per year on average!!!

please conveniently forget attempts over those years. K thx.


LOL. He still takes very, very few attempts for a SG. So why should his % have dropped or held steady if he has "improved". If he's improved, it should have risen. Threes still only account for a meagre 11% (approx) of his total FGAs.

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