Brandon Jennings Leaving His Agent?

[Run-MKE 311]

Non-starter, his current team was not able to get a deal done and he feels that his needs are being under-served.

If the Bucks are convinced that they will match whatever he is offered, than it does not matter. I like Brandon, but sometimes I think he believes he is Deron Williams or Chris Paul, which he is certainly not.

[L&H_05]

Non-starter, his current team was not able to get a deal done and he feels that his needs are being under-served.

If the Bucks are convinced that they will match whatever he is offered, than it does not matter. I like Brandon, but sometimes I think he believes he is Deron Williams or Chris Paul, which he is certainly not.

I agree. I like Jennings to a degree.

He is not "The Man" type of franchise player and my concern is a lack of improvement overall and his inability to slow his game up.. He still performs at a high speed..

I can see him being a better prospect on a veteran team... If the Bucks lost him, I dont forsee it being a major loss for the franchise..

[Nebula1]

L&H up in here? What up dude?

Losing Jennings would be a major loss for the Bucks. Don't be silly. He's 23 and once all these guys have been playing together for 3 or 4 more years, they're going to be a really strong unit, Jennings included.

[coolhandluke121]

If it's true that this guy is one of those "big-market endorsement" honchos, then I could see him talking Jennings into accepting the qualifying offer in order to be an unrestricted free agent in 2014.

No franchise players accept the qualifying offer that I recall. Not even borderline franchise players or future repeat all-stars. It caters to players who really, truly overestimate their own ability and worth, who think that the team that drafted them just doesn't appreciate them and is blind to their value as a franchise player. Players who think that their value as a franchise player "goes without saying" and believe that the only reason they weren't offered a lucrative extension is because someone in their team's front office has a vendetta against them. It caters to the type of vanity that is extraordinary even for a former NBA lotto pick, and I think Brandon fits that description to a T.

Plus he will always have marketing appeal for the gullible sort of "And-1" fan that likes his game and is a sucker for hype/flash/advertising, so maybe it really is true that he would be better off in a bigger market. I'm pretty sure the Bucks would be better off cutting ties and moving on, so I embrace the possibility - although I would obviously rather see him traded for something of value rather than let him sign the qualifying offer.

I could see him being traded to a team that offers him less than what the Bucks might have offered him in an extension, and accepting it after he finally realizes how much he overestimated his worth.

[Bfinkish]

Tbh I'm really torn on dealing bj3. If we can't keep him for 9-11 mil a yr for 4yrs then a trade needs to be saught after. I just don't think we can afford to pay him more than that. My reasoning lies in the theory that Hammond holds in building NBA teams. We cannot pay a non allstar any more money than that IMHO. We cannot pay a player more than that when they aren't the type of player you build a team around.

Brandon is young, I do like him. But we have to be smart. We don't want to get stuck like we did with redd. 4 yrs 44 mil wouldn't be crippling if he just stays pat and doesn't progress. Anything more would be. Changing agents at this point is very interesting. Deep down bj3 wants the money, fame, and his swag to be noticed. I'm not sure he believes it can be achieved here... Just really torn on this story.

[blazza18]

Lets hope his new agent gets him a deal we wont match.

[WEFFPIM]

All this means is that the Bucks are likely ponying up even more than necessary to keep him.

[jr lucosa]

If Schwartz's goal is to push BJ toward a larger market in search of endorsement money, that's only going to constrict the market for him. He's not dumb and won't do that with a RFA.

Yeah I don't see this as a move to get BJ out of Milwaukee, he may just have not liked the way Duffy was handling negotiations, or who knows really. I don't see this as extremely good or bad news though, I don't think it changes things too much.

[Sigra]

L&H up in here?

His team again have superstar so he can talk from above again. He was not going to participate until then. He was nowhere to be find between LeBron and Irving. Not even at his home forum

[DanoMac]

L&H up in here?

Round 2

[galena]

I will say that it's a slap in the face to Duffy to switch agents right before he signs his big contract.

Sure is. Now if Duffy did something incompetent or wronged him in some way, sure BJ go ahead and switch agents. But my guess is BJ just liked how Schwartz stroked his ego, no pun intended. BJ obviously thinks he is way better than he really is, and maybe Schwartz was a better liar than Duffy. I also wonder if being left off the all-star team had anything to do with this. I could see him using Duffy as a scapegoat, when really the one to blame is Brandon and his lack of playmaking ability and poor fg%.

Brandon's got some talent and could maybe become a borderline all-star type player on a consistent basis. I don't think he ever becomes as good as he thinks he is. He seems to have a lack of consistent focus- to the point of being lazy almost. Sure, he'll get up for the big games, but often sleepwalks against the more meager opponents. Although lately, he has not performed well against the good teams (lakers game, end of heat game when lebron checked him, even when Nate the Great wrecked him last Bull's game). But mostly, I just don't really like him.

He's a whiney lil B

If you can get anything of value for him i say trade him. Of course, the chances of that happening are about one in a million. Cue Dumb and Dumber scene.

[N8Frog]

I really don't know what this means, if anything. I'm guessing either way BJ3 is going to be facinated with the large markets. But I don't know how many will even be interested. Alot of the bigger markets have their own cap issues and/or are set at PG. Any team with legit championship aspirations won't sign him to be a SG. BJ3 isn't going to sign somewhere to be a 6th man either.

Of the top 10 markets, Dallas is about the only 1 that may be a possibility. Maybe Atlanta if they strike out on Chris Paul. Otherwise NYK, NETS, LAL, LAC, GSW, PHIL, CHI, HOU, BOST, WASH are all set at PG or have a cap issues. The trendy markets also are set or have cap issues, like Miami. Phoenix may be a sleeper but they have alot of cash invested in that Dragic.

[emunney]

If it's true that this guy is one of those "big-market endorsement" honchos, then I could see him talking Jennings into accepting the qualifying offer in order to be an unrestricted free agent in 2014.

No franchise players accept the qualifying offer that I recall. Not even borderline franchise players or future repeat all-stars. It caters to players who really, truly overestimate their own ability and worth, who think that the team that drafted them just doesn't appreciate them and is blind to their value as a franchise player. Players who think that their value as a franchise player "goes without saying" and believe that the only reason they weren't offered a lucrative extension is because someone in their team's front office has a vendetta against them. It caters to the type of vanity that is extraordinary even for a former NBA lotto pick, and I think Brandon fits that description to a T.

This seems like it should be true, but in reality, before last summer, 14 players had ever accepted the qualifying offer. None of them were Schwartz clients that I'm aware of (ETA: Belinelli). The pattern isn't necessarily that they have vastly inflated self-worths. It's just that they weren't able to garner worthwhile offer sheets. Remember that teams are constrained by the types of offers they can make in RFA. A team isn't necessarily going to want to offer Luke Harangody, for example, a three year contract.

Here's a good blog post including all 14 players and the contract they got after the QO year.

http://www.hoopsrumors.com/2012/07/play ... ffers.html

I think when you look at the above list, there are a few guys who probably fit into your description (Nick Young). Then there are two guys who actually were getting low-balled (Ben Gordon, Nesterovic). For the rest of the guys, I'd guess that the QO was probably just the best offer they got. If the offer is pretty close in terms of dollars/year, I'd bet most people would gamble on themselves and become a UFA the next year.

Ultimately, I don't think Jennings is going to fit into any of these categories, because I think the Bucks will make a strong enough offer up front to take both the Ben Gordon and Nick Young scenarios off the table. The only way I think he takes the QO is if he has a serious injury that carries into FA and depresses his value.

ETA: In the interest of being complete, I've been trying to find guys who accepted the QO last offseason that weren't included on the above list. Ivan Johnson, Darius Morris and Devin Ebanks is what I found.

[N8Frog]

I also don't think he takes the QO barring injury. If he REALLY wanted to leave Milwaukee, then maybe, but he doesn't seem to not like it here. I know its a small market but he is the face of the franchise here pretty much and he won't have that in any larger market really. I do think he enjoys being "the guy".