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Re: Playoff Hope Thread 

Post#521 » by Parataxis » Sat Feb 23, 2013 5:38 pm

stro wrote:The scary thing though, is that, if we don't give it up soon, eventually it will have NO protection. Similar situation to how Detroit ended up with the 2nd overall pick in the 2003 draft from a trade they made with the Grizzlies YEARS prior. I'd die if that happened to Toronto, especially in such a deep draft lol


Really? You don't want us to make the playoffs because you're afraid of 2018? Really?

Look, even if we do somehow make it to the 2018 draft without having conveyed our pick, it's extremely unlikely that we'll go from a team that made the playoffs in 5 consecutive years, to a team that's winning the draft lottery.

*sigh*
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Re: Playoff Hope Thread 

Post#522 » by RapsFanInVA » Sat Feb 23, 2013 5:59 pm

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stro wrote:The scary thing though, is that, if we don't give it up soon, eventually it will have NO protection. Similar situation to how Detroit ended up with the 2nd overall pick in the 2003 draft from a trade they made with the Grizzlies YEARS prior. I'd die if that happened to Toronto, especially in such a deep draft lol


Really? You don't want us to make the playoffs because you're afraid of 2018? Really?

Look, even if we do somehow make it to the 2018 draft without having conveyed our pick, it's extremely unlikely that we'll go from a team that made the playoffs in 5 consecutive years, to a team that's winning the draft lottery.

*sigh*

It's about giving up a top 5 pick in a potentially great draft down the road, versus giving up the 10th or 11th pick in a consensus weak draft this year. How do people not understand this risk? Look to the past and imagine we were in a similar scenario where we went all in to win, not worried about conveying a pick in the future because we assumed we were building a winner and would never immediately fall hard into the lottery.

1999-2000 Raptors 45-37
2000-2001 Raptors 47-35
2001-2002 Raptors 42-40
2002-2003 Raptors 24-58, give away 4th overall pick (Bosh) after making the playoffs 3 straight years, then falling deep into the lottery. This is the kind of risk you are overlooking. Think this is a fluke? It almost happened again recently.

2009-20010 Raptors 40-42, missed the playoffs by one game after going "win-now" mode in Bosh's last season + Hedo. Bosh leaves. Imagine Bosh doesn't get hurt and we win one more game to make the playoffs and keep our pick. He was leaving no matter what. Next season:
2010-2011 Raptors 22-60 but it's cool, our pick is top 3 protected and we are projected 3rd. Whoops, we get jumped twice and fall to 5th, handing over the 5th pick (Jonas)

What's to stop something like this from happening 2 years from now if Rudy Gay leaves? Or what if we can't resign Lowry? It's much easier than you think to fall off dramatically in just a few seasons.
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Re: Playoff Hope Thread 

Post#523 » by Jval17 » Sat Feb 23, 2013 6:44 pm

28% chance now according to Hollinger's playoff odds
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Re: Playoff Hope Thread 

Post#524 » by Chaos Engine » Sat Feb 23, 2013 9:02 pm

Bynum is practicing with the Sixers, and they get Thad Young back soon as well. Let's not forget about them.
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Post#525 » by Inevitable » Sat Feb 23, 2013 9:12 pm

Chaos Engine wrote:Bynum is practicing with the Sixers, and they get Thad Young back soon as well. Let's not forget about them.


They play Miami, New York, Chicago and GS in the next 4/5 games. Tough break for them.
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Post#526 » by ThereIsNoSpork » Sat Feb 23, 2013 9:26 pm

Bucks / Hawks is on NBA TV tonight for those who have it :winkgrin:
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Re: Playoff Hope Thread 

Post#527 » by StopitLeo » Sun Feb 24, 2013 12:33 am

In the first post can we make the losses red?

I think it is going to come down to the last 2 games of the year.
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Re: Playoff Hope Thread 

Post#528 » by BLKMASS » Sun Feb 24, 2013 12:34 am

Drake playing in Philadelphia. I think it's a sign
Raps in the playoffs, book it
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Re: Playoff Hope Thread 

Post#529 » by Jval17 » Sun Feb 24, 2013 1:36 am

Tanger wrote:In the first post can we make the losses red?

I think it is going to come down to the last 2 games of the year.


Sure il change it now
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Re: Playoff Hope Thread 

Post#530 » by Young Buck » Sun Feb 24, 2013 1:46 am

Jval17 wrote:
Tanger wrote:In the first post can we make the losses red?

I think it is going to come down to the last 2 games of the year.


Sure il change it now


How much did you pay for all those followers on twitter there Kevin Bryant?
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Re: Playoff Hope Thread 

Post#531 » by Jval17 » Sun Feb 24, 2013 1:55 am

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How much did you pay for all those followers on twitter there Kevin Bryant?


$0.00, why are you hating? I know Amir,John, Jose and AA. They all follow me and that helped me get a lot of followers. I'm more "known" than you think I am, I'm not a random fan with a crazy amount of followers.
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Re: Playoff Hope Thread 

Post#532 » by ballislife » Sun Feb 24, 2013 2:08 am

Bucks are playing pretty good right now...
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Re: Playoff Hope Thread 

Post#533 » by Jval17 » Sun Feb 24, 2013 2:16 am

.5 back of 9th, Philly lost calling it early
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Re: Playoff Hope Thread 

Post#534 » by Camboflage » Sun Feb 24, 2013 3:00 am

Ew, WTF was that Teague? Air balling a wide open mid
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Re: Playoff Hope Thread 

Post#535 » by SFour » Sun Feb 24, 2013 3:17 am

Bucks might win......
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Re: Playoff Hope Thread 

Post#536 » by Yoga » Sun Feb 24, 2013 3:19 am

LETS GO HAWKS....LETS GO HAWKS
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Re: Playoff Hope Thread 

Post#537 » by Yoga » Sun Feb 24, 2013 3:19 am

Yoga wrote:LETS GO HAWKS....LETS GO HAWKS
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Re: Playoff Hope Thread 

Post#538 » by Yoga » Sun Feb 24, 2013 3:20 am

Come on Atlanta
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Re: Playoff Hope Thread 

Post#539 » by Camboflage » Sun Feb 24, 2013 3:23 am

Man, Bucks have this.

Too much relying on Teague and his floater, no ball movement.
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Re: Playoff Hope Thread 

Post#540 » by SFour » Sun Feb 24, 2013 3:37 am

ATL up by 1.....

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