2017 Draft

patryk7754 · Post #1 » by **patryk7754** » Wed Apr 12, 2017 7:28 pm

Got a notification from Bleacher Report saying there's an expectation that Sheldon Richardson will be traded during the draft. If Sherman will be trade it'll probably be ddurning the draft as well.

We have a big need for DE and Richardson is top notch. I forgot who mentioned it but a poster suggested we swap 1st with the jets plus a 3rd was involved. That works for me. If we could couple that with a fuller and a 2nd for Sherman, we'd be a top defense.

johnnyvann840 · Post #2 » by **johnnyvann840** » Mon Apr 17, 2017 1:56 pm

Bears are trading down

patryk7754 · Post #3 » by **patryk7754** » Mon Apr 17, 2017 2:32 pm

Apparently The 49ers bears and jets are the "most antsy" to trade down. That probably means that a swamp of picks between the jets and bears is unlikely.

Maybe if the bears neutralize what the jets would have to give up to get the third by giving up more than the real value for Richardson

Axxo · Post #4 » by **Axxo** » Mon Apr 17, 2017 2:39 pm

patryk7754 wrote:Apparently The 49ers bears and jets are the "most antsy" to trade down. That probably means that a swamp of picks between the jets and bears is unlikely.

Maybe if the bears neutralize what the jets would have to give up to get the third by giving up more than the real value for Richardson

Does t matter who makes the deal to trade down 1st?

patryk7754 · Post #5 » by **patryk7754** » Mon Apr 17, 2017 8:07 pm

Axxo wrote:
patryk7754 wrote:Apparently The 49ers bears and jets are the "most antsy" to trade down. That probably means that a swamp of picks between the jets and bears is unlikely.

Maybe if the bears neutralize what the jets would have to give up to get the third by giving up more than the real value for Richardson

Does t matter who makes the deal to trade down 1st?

I think it does. I don't think there aren't many teams that want to move up. The team most likely to move, i think, is the Browns. they got the 12 plus a bunch of 2-6 round picks. If they do trade up i think it'll be for Watson so that means they probably try to trade with the jets first since watson most likely won't go top 5. They might try to trade in front of the Jets if the browns think the jets will take watson.

I think the titans might try to trade down as well.

Post #6 » by **fleet** » Tue Apr 18, 2017 1:52 am

If they traded back for OJ Howard, that would be a great move.

Chi town · Post #7 » by **Chi town** » Tue Apr 18, 2017 3:43 am

johnnyvann840 wrote:Bears are trading down

Link?

If so it will be to take a QB w extra pick or after moving back.

patryk7754 · Post #8 » by **patryk7754** » Tue Apr 18, 2017 6:32 pm

fleet wrote:If they traded back for OJ Howard, that would be a great move.

Id rather get one of the top defensive guys. If we want a TE the one from Ole Miss would be almost just as good and might be available in the 2nd

CjayC · Post #9 » by **CjayC** » Wed Apr 19, 2017 1:04 am

fleet wrote:If they traded back for OJ Howard, that would be a great move.

Love Howard's game, he would be a huge addition especially as a blocker BUT this is possibly the deepest class of TE's ever. If our secondary wasn't garbage I would do it because Howard is one of the few blue-chip talents in the draft. That's a real BPA kind of pick. We should still be able to get a good TE going into the 3rd round though.

IWannaGoHIGHER · Post #10 » by **IWannaGoHIGHER** » Wed Apr 19, 2017 3:25 pm

Just in case any of you guys were looking for something Bear focus to listen to on the draft. I just put out a new podcast. Put a lot of work into being an "armchair scout" this year. Let me know what you think.

https://soundcloud.com/bearcastradiopodcast

patryk7754 · Post #11 » by **patryk7754** » Wed Apr 19, 2017 8:30 pm

i just read a CBS article saying that a lot of execs expect the bears to draft a QB in the first 2 rounds.

Susan · Post #12 » by **Susan** » Thu Apr 20, 2017 5:19 am

Don't mind them trading back a bit to still pick up one of Thomas/Allen/Hooker/Adams and then trading back up into the 1st to pick up Mahomes so we can live through a gunslinger all over again!

heir_jordan22 · Post #13 » by **heir_jordan22** » Fri Apr 21, 2017 2:24 am

I don't think Mahomes is the guy. Fox likes QBs who control clock and possession more than guys who make big plays

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Post #14 » by **chitownsports4ever** » Fri Apr 21, 2017 4:27 pm

fleet wrote:If they traded back for OJ Howard, that would be a great move.

I agree if they traded down and got extra picks and ended up with Howard in the first I would

But I wont even get my hopes up for something like that .

Post #15 » by **fleet** » Sun Apr 23, 2017 2:24 pm

Rueben Foster failed the urinalysis at the combine. Some are saying he could fall out of the 1st round. Oh man.

Post #16 » by **City of Trees** » Mon Apr 24, 2017 3:38 am

Everything I'm seeing says Bears take Watson at 3. Gotta admit 3 months ago I did not see that coming

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Post #17 » by **City of Trees** » Mon Apr 24, 2017 3:39 am

fleet wrote:Rueben Foster failed the urinalysis at the combine. Some are saying he could fall out of the 1st round. Oh man.

Wasn't he kicked out of the combine as well? Red flags emerging. Randy Gregory ?

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Post #18 » by **fleet** » Mon Apr 24, 2017 9:53 am

City of Trees wrote:Everything I'm seeing says Bears take Watson at 3. Gotta admit 3 months ago I did not see that coming

Check this out

Read on Twitter

Bears putting or letting lots of people think they want a QB at 3. Maybe this is the Bears trying to get Garrett to fall to them. Let me explain.

I did see the Bears taking a QB, and have said so in the beginning. But since then the Bears signed Glennon. Not saying this precludes a QB at 3, but I had thought the Glennon move was to done to allow themselves to take a QB later in the draft, and that they probably had one in mind that would be there. If that guy was Watson (or Trubisky), then you may be right, but the Bears had to believe, at least I did, that Watson' or Trubisky was always not gonna get to the second round. If they wanted Watson/Trubisky for sure, they had to plan on taking him at 3 to get him, so the Glennon move is puzzling. I could be wrong, but since the Bears have also been liked to Trubisky, this Watson/Trubisky rumor is possibly the Bears hoping Garrett falls to Bears at #3, by trying to bait the Browns into taking a QB #1, and making the Browns worried about getting their QB with their second 1st rounder. I will be surprised at this point if the Bears actually followed through drafting a QB #3. Otherwise, I don't get the Glennon move. Why not just draft Watson and not sign Glennon? This team didn't need to worry about winning in 2017/18.

Post #19 » by **fleet** » Mon Apr 24, 2017 10:02 am

City of Trees wrote:
fleet wrote:Rueben Foster failed the urinalysis at the combine. Some are saying he could fall out of the 1st round. Oh man.

Wasn't he kicked out of the combine as well? Red flags emerging. Randy Gregory ?

Oh yeah, that was him? Forgot about that. I gotta say, if he is the next Ray Lewis, hard to pass on him in the second round despite red flags. The sample was a diluted sample, so maybe it was just trying to hide weed. Not a deal breaker for me if so. Hard to make this call as a fan without the detailed background research on him and the sample.

patryk7754 · Post #20 » by **patryk7754** » Mon Apr 24, 2017 3:17 pm

I refuse to believe that the Bears will take a QB with the third.