[2017 NBA Draft Discussion] - (1: PHI, 2: LAL, 3: BOS)!

Shock Defeat · Post #1821 » by **Shock Defeat** » Fri Jun 16, 2017 3:42 pm

raptor jesus wrote:
kulaz3000 wrote:
raptor jesus wrote:
Kinda the way he always looks. He's got some tantalizing ability, but there's a "casualness" to him on the court that's rather concerning imo. I wouldn't blame the Celtics for taking a more fiery player like Jackson instead.

You really can't factor how a person's demeanor is like to evaluate their talents, well perhaps some do, but they really shouldn't.

Derrick Rose was infamous of showing absolutely no emotions the majority of the time, and at one point he was one of the best players in the league. T-Mac used to have relaxed, don't give a f*** type of demeanor either, until he'd explode past you and dunk all over your grill.

I meant that his casualness spills over to his play on the court, affecting his motor. Rose was different, he was constantly in attack mode - Fultz seems to loaf around quite a bit, like he can't be bothered to go at full speed.

Harden plays most of the time at half speed and as if he doesn't care, but he has the skills and BBIQ to still be effective.

Post #1822 » by **Froob** » Fri Jun 16, 2017 8:13 pm

cdubbz wrote:Celtics have got to take Lonzo Ball #1 and hold him ransom.

And then the Lakers just take Fultz....?

RaptorsLife · Post #1823 » by **RaptorsLife** » Fri Jun 16, 2017 9:02 pm

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OptionZero · Post #1824 » by **OptionZero** » Fri Jun 16, 2017 9:13 pm

That's insane to me - Fultz is that damn good. I'm assuming the #3 that BOS takes is Josh Jackson - nice player, not sure if he's ever a future all star. Fultz definitely will be.

Would PHI do something insane like giving up #3 + 2018 Lakers (unprotected) + 2019 Sacramento (unprotected)? Because I'd definitely do THAT, it'd just be nuts.

Heat_Fan_87 · Post #1825 » by **Heat_Fan_87** » Fri Jun 16, 2017 9:13 pm

feels like boston trying to raise the price for LA

Repeat 3-peat · Post #1826 » by **Repeat 3-peat** » Fri Jun 16, 2017 9:19 pm

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SK21209 · Post #1827 » by **SK21209** » Fri Jun 16, 2017 10:21 pm

Fultz, Simmons, Embiid is crazy good. It's a shame Hinkie won't be around to see the process come to fruition; this is all him.

Spens1 · Post #1828 » by **Spens1** » Fri Jun 16, 2017 11:03 pm

Froob wrote:
cdubbz wrote:Celtics have got to take Lonzo Ball #1 and hold him ransom.

And then the Lakers just take Fultz....?

pretty much.

Also we're enamoured with Fultz more than Ball i think.

http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/246287/Magic-Johnson-In-Love-With-Markelle-Fultz-After-He-Murdered-Lakers-Workout

The offer is ridiculous though. 2 + Randle is too damn high.

XtremeDunkz · Post #1829 » by **XtremeDunkz** » Fri Jun 16, 2017 11:14 pm

Spens1 wrote:
Froob wrote:
cdubbz wrote:Celtics have got to take Lonzo Ball #1 and hold him ransom.

And then the Lakers just take Fultz....?

pretty much.

Also we're enamoured with Fultz more than Ball i think.

http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/246287/Magic-Johnson-In-Love-With-Markelle-Fultz-After-He-Murdered-Lakers-Workout

The offer is ridiculous though. 2 + Randle is too damn high.

Not really lol. What would you expect to add? a 2nd? Clarkson? lol

Spens1 · Post #1830 » by **Spens1** » Fri Jun 16, 2017 11:25 pm

XtremeDunkz wrote:
Spens1 wrote:
Froob wrote:And then the Lakers just take Fultz....?

pretty much.

Also we're enamoured with Fultz more than Ball i think.

http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/246287/Magic-Johnson-In-Love-With-Markelle-Fultz-After-He-Murdered-Lakers-Workout

The offer is ridiculous though. 2 + Randle is too damn high.

Not really lol. What would you expect to add? a 2nd? Clarkson? lol

28 + a little.

Its not like the gap between Fultz and Ball is huge anyway.

baldur · Post #1831 » by **baldur** » Sat Jun 17, 2017 5:06 am

OptionZero wrote:That's insane to me - Fultz is that damn good. I'm assuming the #3 that BOS takes is Josh Jackson - nice player, not sure if he's ever a future all star. Fultz definitely will be.

Would PHI do something insane like giving up #3 + 2018 Lakers (unprotected) + 2019 Sacramento (unprotected)? Because I'd definitely do THAT, it'd just be nuts.

76ers' gm is not Billy king as far as I'm concerned. The gap between markelle fultz and Josh Jackson is not worth 2 top 5 picks.

Spens1 · Post #1832 » by **Spens1** » Sat Jun 17, 2017 8:43 am

I'm amazed Colangelo wants to even move up, Fultz doesn't strike me as his type of player.

Post #1833 » by **CoreyGallagher** » Sat Jun 17, 2017 10:00 am

baldur wrote:
OptionZero wrote:That's insane to me - Fultz is that damn good. I'm assuming the #3 that BOS takes is Josh Jackson - nice player, not sure if he's ever a future all star. Fultz definitely will be.

Would PHI do something insane like giving up #3 + 2018 Lakers (unprotected) + 2019 Sacramento (unprotected)? Because I'd definitely do THAT, it'd just be nuts.

76ers' gm is not Billy king as far as I'm concerned. The gap between markelle fultz and Josh Jackson is not worth 2 top 5 picks.

Yeah, I'd be very upset if the Kings' pick is also included.

I heard that that was the initial offer, which Colangelo declined, and then countered with our own future first - which I'm fine with. We'll see, Colangelo could always buckle.

76ciology · Post #1834 » by **76ciology** » Sat Jun 17, 2017 10:08 am

CoreyGallagher wrote:
baldur wrote:
OptionZero wrote:That's insane to me - Fultz is that damn good. I'm assuming the #3 that BOS takes is Josh Jackson - nice player, not sure if he's ever a future all star. Fultz definitely will be.

Would PHI do something insane like giving up #3 + 2018 Lakers (unprotected) + 2019 Sacramento (unprotected)? Because I'd definitely do THAT, it'd just be nuts.

76ers' gm is not Billy king as far as I'm concerned. The gap between markelle fultz and Josh Jackson is not worth 2 top 5 picks.

Yeah, I'd be very upset if the Kings' pick is also included.

I heard that that was the initial offer, which Colangelo declined, and then countered with our own future first - which I'm fine with. We'll see, Colangelo could always buckle.

I'm comfortable giving up 3rd and Lakers 1st next season. I don't like 2018 draft in general and specially for Sixers.

Post #1835 » by **Slava** » Sat Jun 17, 2017 10:15 am

Heat_Fan_87 wrote:feels like boston trying to raise the price for LA

More like the la rumor was to get Philly to put more on the table.

Grahf · Post #1836 » by **Grahf** » Sat Jun 17, 2017 12:59 pm

baldur wrote:
OptionZero wrote:That's insane to me - Fultz is that damn good. I'm assuming the #3 that BOS takes is Josh Jackson - nice player, not sure if he's ever a future all star. Fultz definitely will be.

Would PHI do something insane like giving up #3 + 2018 Lakers (unprotected) + 2019 Sacramento (unprotected)? Because I'd definitely do THAT, it'd just be nuts.

76ers' gm is not Billy king as far as I'm concerned. The gap between markelle fultz and Josh Jackson is not worth 2 top 5 picks.

It might be… Perhaps Ainge wants two players from the 2018 Ayton-Bamba-Doncic-Porter group. I think he should just take Fultz and not gamble.

ISayshowmee · Post #1837 » by **ISayshowmee** » Sat Jun 17, 2017 5:17 pm

OptionZero wrote:That's insane to me - Fultz is that damn good. I'm assuming the #3 that BOS takes is Josh Jackson - nice player, not sure if he's ever a future all star. Fultz definitely will be.

Would PHI do something insane like giving up #3 + 2018 Lakers (unprotected) + 2019 Sacramento (unprotected)? Because I'd definitely do THAT, it'd just be nuts.

You do not give up that many 1st round draft picks for a rookie ...unless the rookie is Kobe or Lebron

DEEP3CL · Post #1838 » by **DEEP3CL** » Sat Jun 17, 2017 8:26 pm

76ciology wrote:I'm comfortable giving up 3rd and Lakers 1st next season. I don't like 2018 draft in general and specially for Sixers.

I get that but the 2018 draft will be 10 times more talented than this one. It's players at every position, Ayton and Porter are early favorites for 1 and 2 but that could change over the course of the NCAA season.

Post #1839 » by **magnumt** » Sat Jun 17, 2017 8:37 pm

DEEP3CL wrote:
76ciology wrote:I'm comfortable giving up 3rd and Lakers 1st next season. I don't like 2018 draft in general and specially for Sixers.

I get that but the 2018 draft will be 10 times more talented than this one. It's players at every position, Ayton and Porter are early favorites for 1 and 2 but that could change over the course of the NCAA season.

No. It won't.

--Mags :beer:

Michael Lucky · Post #1840 » by **Michael Lucky** » Sat Jun 17, 2017 8:45 pm

Yeah the 2018 draft only looks t be 3-4 players deep. Maybe that will change but I would also expect the Lakers to start trending up. So this deal for Boston is very dependent on the Lakers getting lucky in the lottery again.