Tave wrote:
It seems like your thought process is:
No prosecution = actual innocence.
Kobe's own admissions, as well as his apology and subsequent payoff, seem to indicate that something bad happened. Even if it wasnt a forcible rape.
Her character issues created problems for the prosecution in terms of trying the case; they didn't absolve Kobe of all responsibility, IMO.
Not true. When her peers go out of their way to let it be known that she was bragging about the incident after the rape accusation that is a big red flag. These are people she personally knows. What rape victim does that? I understand that the girl may not need to go about screaming rape, but if it was legit she doesn't need to be all cheery to others about the situation while bragging about sleeping Kobe and talking about his penis (yes this apparently happened). The way I see it, is those people she knew went out of their way to prevent someone being wrongly incriminated.
Also of course, Kobe did something wrong even if it wasn't "forcible rape". Kobe committed adultery, which is a well known fact and tells how much of how poor his character is, but this not punishable.
Texas Chuck wrote:
Id stop dude because you are just making it worse. Her being mentally unstable only makes it worse for the accused. Its well-known that predators target these types of girls. Lets face it there is no justification for rape and the fact that you think these are some kind of mitigating factors is sick.
And as far as the bragging part goes--it was fairly well-known that she had been wiht Kobe that night. People were already going to assume she had sex with him because why else would Kobe be with some random girl. So she can either tell people she was raped or she can "brag'. What would you expect her to do?
You can argue the mentally unstable part both ways. Mentally unstability is often a result after LEGITIMATE rape. However, this girl was taking prescriptions to schizophrenia 4 months before the event.
I have no clue where you got that information that everyone knew she was sleeping with Kobe right after the incident. If you read the reports, she wanted to get an autograph from Kobe because she knew he was there. She came out after some time and according to the hotel auditor stated she looked fine and didn't seem upset at all. Second, she was openly bragging about the situation you don't need to indicate sarcasm with the quotes. She was talking about his dick and the whole situation in a cheerful manner.
I think it's sickening that you automatically assume that Kobe and possibly Nick Young are automatically guilty when there is little evidence to suggest so. Rape is a very serious crime that deserves at least 20 years+. However falsely accusing for rape is a very minor crime (about 10-90 days in a county jail). I feel there needs to more of a punishment for those who have been caught for falsely accusing rape so the legitimate rape cases get more attention, but that's aside the point.
As I mentioned before, I am SKEPTICAL not siding with anyone for this whole Nick Young rape situation. All I did say was that I'd wait for more info before making a judgement.
I made the mistake of assuming Kobe was guilty after hearing the rape case, and after hearing more information it doesn't seem as likely. This is why I remain skeptical even today. I'm personally not a fan of Kobe or Young so I have no personal motivation with my reasoning