ImageImage

Jason Quick: Cho turning deals down for Rudy

Moderators: Moonbeam, DeBlazerRiddem

User avatar
Dakotah612
Head Coach
Posts: 6,758
And1: 0
Joined: Aug 15, 2003
Location: Minnesota

Jason Quick: Cho turning deals down for Rudy 

Post#1 » by Dakotah612 » Wed Aug 18, 2010 9:05 pm

New York
Chicago
Boston

All have offered deals for Rudy but all were rejected by Cho & Co.

Rudy, apparently, is getting extremely impatient but clearly nobody, Rudy or his agent, will force Cho's hand on any deals.
"Damn the Blazers. Damn them to hell. They are working the rest of the league like a speedbag."
- Bill Simmons
User avatar
Fitz303
General Manager
Posts: 8,198
And1: 1,839
Joined: Oct 18, 2006
Location: Portland

Re: Jason Quick: Cho turning deals down for Rudy 

Post#2 » by Fitz303 » Wed Aug 18, 2010 9:21 pm

Good for Cho. If he cant get something for him that will clearly be an asset to the team moving forward, then let him rot on the bench. Who cares if Spanish players shy away from Portland moving forward. Im pretty sure Batum is doing just fine in Portland. It wont scare away all Euro player. Just prima donnas
User avatar
BballFanAddict
Analyst
Posts: 3,012
And1: 36
Joined: Jun 19, 2008
Location: "The face of a child says a lot, especially the mouth part."

Re: Jason Quick: Cho turning deals down for Rudy 

Post#3 » by BballFanAddict » Wed Aug 18, 2010 9:32 pm

What this tells me is each of those teams merely offered a future first. And, frankly, if I am Paul Allen, who can buy a late first round pick at a whim, I would rather see Rudy go back to Europe. That is what this is telling me. Clearly these teams offered crap and Portland is not biting. Fine by me. Would rather see the kid in Europe.
User avatar
DusterBuster
RealGM
Posts: 35,810
And1: 21,492
Joined: Jan 31, 2010
   

Re: Jason Quick: Cho turning deals down for Rudy 

Post#4 » by DusterBuster » Wed Aug 18, 2010 9:37 pm

BballFanAddict wrote:What this tells me is each of those teams merely offered a future first. And, frankly, if I am Paul Allen, who can buy a late first round pick at a whim, I would rather see Rudy go back to Europe. That is what this is telling me. Clearly these teams offered crap and Portland is not biting. Fine by me. Would rather see the kid in Europe.


Exactly what I've been saying for months now. I'd rather him go back to Europe than see us give him away for essentially nothing to another NBA team.
Get ready to learn Chinese buddy... #YangBang
DaVoiceMaster
Retired Mod
Retired Mod
Posts: 21,044
And1: 2,366
Joined: Sep 26, 2003
Contact:
   

Re: Jason Quick: Cho turning deals down for Rudy 

Post#5 » by DaVoiceMaster » Wed Aug 18, 2010 9:37 pm

We don't know what has been offered, if anything. Only one person is talking so everything is one-sided. This is a business and only one person is professional among the group being discussed and it sure isn't Rudy.
DaVoiceMaster
Senior Mod - Trail Blazers
12/27/2017 - 01/03/2018
User avatar
OscarusPrime32
Senior
Posts: 602
And1: 0
Joined: Feb 26, 2010

Re: Jason Quick: Cho turning deals down for Rudy 

Post#6 » by OscarusPrime32 » Wed Aug 18, 2010 9:48 pm

Nothing wrong with just waiting on trading him. Its not like his trade value can go any lower. Best case scenario is that someone somehow gets desperate for him and offers a good return.
DaVoiceMaster
Retired Mod
Retired Mod
Posts: 21,044
And1: 2,366
Joined: Sep 26, 2003
Contact:
   

Re: Jason Quick: Cho turning deals down for Rudy 

Post#7 » by DaVoiceMaster » Wed Aug 18, 2010 9:56 pm

He wants to go back to Europe and doesn't wanna wait 2 more years. The only way he makes it happen sooner is if he makes NBA teams not want him. It sounds like it's working.
DaVoiceMaster
Senior Mod - Trail Blazers
12/27/2017 - 01/03/2018
Billy
Retired Mod
Retired Mod
Posts: 12,623
And1: 161
Joined: Aug 14, 2001
 

Re: Jason Quick: Cho turning deals down for Rudy 

Post#8 » by Billy » Wed Aug 18, 2010 9:59 pm

Cho on the game right now

*Disappointed, but won't get into a war of words. End of day, will come down to what's best for PDX.

*Not going to make a trade just to make a trade. Will do it if it makes the team better or gets an asset that can be used later.

*It's Miller's prerogative to say whatever.

*If Rudy doesn't come to training camp he's subject to suspension and fines. That's what we'll do.

*Going to continue to look for ways to trade him. Again, has to be a trade that makes sense for Portland.

*Not sure if Rudy and Miller are going to come around if he finds a deal with a team like Chicago or NY or Boston. Not going to make a bad deal just to deal with those teams.

*Spoken with Andy quite a bit since being hired. Aware of Rudy's feelings. At the end of the day will do what's best for Portland. Will talk to the other teams again, but not going to do anything just to do it.

*Unfortunate that he's made these statements, but doesn't help his cause. Doesn't feel a sense of urgency anymore than he did last week. Will do what's best for the organization. Will not be strong armed into anything.

*There's a number of rules related to suspensions. Will address it when the time comes, but doesn't want to get into conjecture right now.

*Rudy is a very good player. Plays 23-24 mpg for us. Over his first two seasons has averaged 24 minutes a game. Not like he hasn't been given a chance. Beasley got 28 mpg, Love 26 for his first two seasons. He's played quite a bit, has been given a chance. Still a good player, would like him to be a Trail Blazer. Andy and Rudy have expressed frustration. Willing to make a deal, but has to be right.

*I'm hoping to come up with a solution, but doesn't know what it is exactly.
Billy
Retired Mod
Retired Mod
Posts: 12,623
And1: 161
Joined: Aug 14, 2001
 

Re: Jason Quick: Cho turning deals down for Rudy 

Post#9 » by Billy » Wed Aug 18, 2010 10:05 pm

FYI... a cookie goes to whomever can figure out the theme to the Cho interview.
User avatar
jeffhardyfan52
General Manager
Posts: 9,894
And1: 596
Joined: Jul 09, 2006
Location: Portland
Contact:
       

Re: Jason Quick: Cho turning deals down for Rudy 

Post#10 » by jeffhardyfan52 » Wed Aug 18, 2010 10:21 pm

The theme seems to be stand pat? idk wild guess cuz i want a cookie
He’s not (my-vydas), he’s not (your-vydas), he’s Arvydas

Image
User avatar
Mr Odd
Retired Mod
Retired Mod
Posts: 12,081
And1: 8
Joined: Jul 08, 2003

Re: Jason Quick: Cho turning deals down for Rudy 

Post#11 » by Mr Odd » Wed Aug 18, 2010 10:27 pm

For those that dont know, Miller is the name of Rudys agent.
Image
bing'o-bang'o-bong'o-baby!!
User avatar
BballFanAddict
Analyst
Posts: 3,012
And1: 36
Joined: Jun 19, 2008
Location: "The face of a child says a lot, especially the mouth part."

Re: Jason Quick: Cho turning deals down for Rudy 

Post#12 » by BballFanAddict » Wed Aug 18, 2010 10:33 pm

Billy wrote:FYI... a cookie goes to whomever can figure out the theme to the Cho interview.


Paralysis by over-analysis?

Not going to be bullied?

Nate sucks?

Rudy sucks?

Andy Miller sucks?

The cookie you're offering sucks?


Give to me cookie!
User avatar
Mr Odd
Retired Mod
Retired Mod
Posts: 12,081
And1: 8
Joined: Jul 08, 2003

Re: Jason Quick: Cho turning deals down for Rudy 

Post#13 » by Mr Odd » Wed Aug 18, 2010 10:54 pm

Quick just said that Cho wont release Rudy.

Meaning he wont let Rudy go play overseas.
Image
bing'o-bang'o-bong'o-baby!!
Billy
Retired Mod
Retired Mod
Posts: 12,623
And1: 161
Joined: Aug 14, 2001
 

Re: Jason Quick: Cho turning deals down for Rudy 

Post#14 » by Billy » Wed Aug 18, 2010 10:56 pm

So TSE took the cookie. I mean quite literally snatched it from me. Sorry guys.

Theme = We are not going to make a trade unless it benefits us :D
User avatar
EGame
Head Coach
Posts: 6,153
And1: 264
Joined: May 29, 2007

Re: Jason Quick: Cho turning deals down for Rudy 

Post#15 » by EGame » Wed Aug 18, 2010 11:17 pm

No, the true theme is KP 2.0. Not that I am complaining when it comes to Rudy, if all the offers are garbage, I am good with making him suffer.
Fico King
Senior
Posts: 604
And1: 0
Joined: Dec 01, 2009

Re: Jason Quick: Cho turning deals down for Rudy 

Post#16 » by Fico King » Wed Aug 18, 2010 11:57 pm

I think Cho is smart to say no.

Lets look at the offers as we have heard them in the past. Nobody knows exact specifics.

Bulls. Won't give Gibson keeps pushing James Johnson. If Johnson is what the Bulls are offering I'm glad we are not trading with them.

Celtics. Only thing I want from them is Avery and I doubt they are offering him.

NYK. The rumor was Rudy for Chandler. Portland is winning that by a mile. I would take Walker for Rudy, Pendergraph and Koppenen's rights, but maybe NYK are not agreeable to it.

It is my personal hope that we are looking at packaging other cheap assets with Rudy for maybe a couple future 1sts.

Rudy, Pendergraph, Rights to Claver, Freeland, Koppennen and even Babbitt. All these pieces should be on the block. Eliot Williams is the rookie I would really hesitate to trade.

Babbitt I can't ever see taking Batum's starting spot, so basically all Portland did (which was smart) was replace Webster with a player with a similar skill set on a rookie deal. But then we get Matthews, causing Babbitt to slide down the rotation. Sell high on Babbitt, don't let him become a Joe Alexander.
User avatar
The Emcee
General Manager
Posts: 7,542
And1: 156
Joined: Dec 19, 2007
Location: Portland
     

Re: Jason Quick: Cho turning deals down for Rudy 

Post#17 » by The Emcee » Thu Aug 19, 2010 12:14 am

Based on that summary, I really like the way Cho is handling this.
HoopsFanAZ
Bench Warmer
Posts: 1,483
And1: 381
Joined: Jun 16, 2008

Re: Jason Quick: Cho turning deals down for Rudy 

Post#18 » by HoopsFanAZ » Thu Aug 19, 2010 1:08 am

The unstated theme that Quick, Rudy's agent, and other teams will understand:
Cho knows numbers.
He knows Rudy's worth to an NBA team. Pay up. Don't try to lowball or make demands. His first deal as GM isn't the time for others to try to play chicken with him.
User avatar
Tai
Lead Assistant
Posts: 5,369
And1: 3,245
Joined: Dec 03, 2009
       

Re: Jason Quick: Cho turning deals down for Rudy 

Post#19 » by Tai » Thu Aug 19, 2010 1:56 am

A wild Celtics fan appeared! : )

Billy wrote:FYI... a cookie goes to whomever can figure out the theme to the Cho interview.


Clearly, Cho is looking to trade Rudy, but is not willing to trade Rudy for just anyone or for the sake of trading him.

To be honest, that's probably a GM you can count on if this is true.

So I summarized the interview, and I praised your GM. I should get two cookies...from SUBWAY! Their snicker-doodle cookies are full of win. : )
smartyz456 wrote:oh i am a laker fan for life

i'm just gonna be a warrior fan until lebron leaves the lakers

true laker fans don't root for lebron


viewtopic.php?f=6&t=1728641
User avatar
sabi
Lead Assistant
Posts: 5,108
And1: 27
Joined: Feb 20, 2006
   

Re: Jason Quick: Cho turning deals down for Rudy 

Post#20 » by sabi » Thu Aug 19, 2010 2:16 am

Never seen such a poorly managed situation from the get go Rudy should have been traded before or right-after signing Matthews like how KP had a deal line up for Outlaw if Utah didn't match Millsap's offer. Problem was that we didn't have a GM at the time so Cho now has to deal with this unfavorable situation.
He's doing the right thing right now by not accepting crappy offers from teams that don't really have enough valuable assets. Players like Taj Gibson, who would be fair return for a healthy Rudy, aren't being offered simply because their teams don't have many young prospects and they tend to hold on to their just OK prospects like if they were gold.
Image
Prodigy73 wrote:
fredericklove wrote:Chill out, bro. Things will get better when we face the next 3 games in Nets, Mavs and Rockets, relax, chill.


If we go 0-3 during that Imma chillllllllllllll

Return to Portland Trail Blazers