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Derrick Rose vs. Kevin Durant

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Who you think is currently the better player?

Derrick Rose
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Kevin Durant
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64%
 
Total votes : 39

Post#1 Derrick Rose vs. Kevin Durant
Sat Oct 8, 2011 3:32 pm by Flash Reloaded

Who you got? Who do you think is currently the better player?

in b4 a bunch of useless advanced metrics.
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Post#2 Re: Derrick Rose vs. Kevin Durant
Sat Oct 8, 2011 4:02 pm by Dr Positivity

I think Rose is the better player but Durant is more dependable in the playoffs at this point, just from experience alone most likely
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Post#3 Re: Derrick Rose vs. Kevin Durant
Sat Oct 8, 2011 10:50 pm by kasino

i'll take Durant
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Post#4 Re: Derrick Rose vs. Kevin Durant
Sat Oct 8, 2011 10:52 pm by JordansBulls

Rose no doubt. Led team to best record in the league without another allstar while Durant has only led a team to a 4th seed with another allstar on the team. Not to mention Rose made the playoffs each year in the league while with Durant the Sonics/Thunder were worse his rookie and sophomore years compared to the season before he came.
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Post#5 Re: Derrick Rose vs. Kevin Durant
Sun Oct 9, 2011 12:03 am by kasino

alot is based on conference
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Post#6 Re: Derrick Rose vs. Kevin Durant
Sun Oct 9, 2011 12:59 am by Flash Reloaded

kasino wrote:alot is based on conference

What? Bulls were 23-7 against the West.
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Post#7 Re: Derrick Rose vs. Kevin Durant
Sun Oct 9, 2011 1:02 am by RoyceDa59

I would rather have Kevin Durant.
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Post#8 Re: Derrick Rose vs. Kevin Durant
Sun Oct 9, 2011 1:09 am by Rapcity_11

Flash Reloaded wrote:

in b4 a bunch of useless advanced metrics.


Just because you don't understand them, doesn't mean you need to dismiss them...
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Post#9 Re: Derrick Rose vs. Kevin Durant
Sun Oct 9, 2011 1:11 am by fromthetop321

Durant
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Post#10 Re: Derrick Rose vs. Kevin Durant
Sun Oct 9, 2011 1:12 am by Flash Reloaded

Rapcity_11 wrote:
Flash Reloaded wrote:

in b4 a bunch of useless advanced metrics.


Just because you don't understand them, doesn't mean you need to dismiss them...

I'd rather not think Reggie Miller > Allen Iverson or Kevin Garnett being a top 10-12 player of all-time, thanks.
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Post#11 Re: Derrick Rose vs. Kevin Durant
Sun Oct 9, 2011 1:17 am by Rapcity_11

Flash Reloaded wrote:
Rapcity_11 wrote:
Flash Reloaded wrote:

in b4 a bunch of useless advanced metrics.


Just because you don't understand them, doesn't mean you need to dismiss them...

I'd rather not think Reggie Miller > Allen Iverson or Kevin Garnett being a top 10-12 player of all-time, thanks.


That's not necessarily what advanced say. Just a certain way of interpreting them. A whole bunch of advanced stat user don't have Miller above AI or KG top 10.
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Post#12 Re: Derrick Rose vs. Kevin Durant
Sun Oct 9, 2011 2:05 am by AggO

Rose fairly easily.


I think Durant has to be one the number 1 overrated player here on realgm. Guys keep spewing all about his efficiency, ability to work without the ball, being "superior" to other scoring SFs like Melo, but honestly what exactly has this guy accomplished so far? He has no post game. Like Melo, he doesnt really make this teammates much better. He's an elite scorer like Melo and thats all about what both those guys can do.
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Post#13 Re: Derrick Rose vs. Kevin Durant
Sun Oct 9, 2011 2:21 am by Rapcity_11

Leading the league in scoring on very high efficiency is awesome?
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Post#14 Re: Derrick Rose vs. Kevin Durant
Sun Oct 9, 2011 2:34 am by AggO

Rapcity_11 wrote:Leading the league in scoring on very high efficiency is awesome?

Melo did more in his first 4 years than Durant has.
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Post#15 Re: Derrick Rose vs. Kevin Durant
Sun Oct 9, 2011 2:50 am by Rapcity_11

AggO wrote:
Rapcity_11 wrote:Leading the league in scoring on very high efficiency is awesome?

Melo did more in his first 4 years than Durant has.


Scoring less, less efficiently while playing worse defense? Is that what mean by more?

Or is it his playoff runs of 4, 5, 5 and 5 games?
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Post#16 Re: Derrick Rose vs. Kevin Durant
Sun Oct 9, 2011 3:44 am by Sinant

Flash Reloaded wrote:
Rapcity_11 wrote:
Flash Reloaded wrote:

in b4 a bunch of useless advanced metrics.


Just because you don't understand them, doesn't mean you need to dismiss them...

I'd rather not think Reggie Miller > Allen Iverson or Kevin Garnett being a top 10-12 player of all-time, thanks.


Oh hey DaPerception.
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Post#17 Re: Derrick Rose vs. Kevin Durant
Sun Oct 9, 2011 8:40 am by Ryoga Hibiki

We can argue about who's better, but who would really pick Rose today for his team if given the choice?
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Post#18 Re: Derrick Rose vs. Kevin Durant
Sun Oct 9, 2011 1:49 pm by wiff

JordansBulls wrote:Rose no doubt. Led team to best record in the league without another allstar while Durant has only led a team to a 4th seed with another allstar on the team. Not to mention Rose made the playoffs each year in the league while with Durant the Sonics/Thunder were worse his rookie and sophomore years compared to the season before he came.


Rose being on a team that made the playoffs every year has absolutely nothing to do with Rose being a better player. All it means is that Rose was on a better "TEAM"

And if I'm not mistaken the 3 teams in front of the Thunder are responsible for winning 10 of the last 13 championships and were in the finals 13 out of the last 13 years. That's kind of a tough code to crack.

Still though team success doesn't define individual talent. And this is still Durant and it's not really that close.
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Post#19 Re: Derrick Rose vs. Kevin Durant
Sun Oct 9, 2011 10:20 pm by StopItDRose

Eh, Durant theoretically has the higher ceiling as a scorer with his height, but I think Rose affects the game more, and if I was beginning a franchise, I'd rather have a DRose playing the point, leading the team than a Durant needing someone to facilitate looks for him anyway.
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Post#20 Re: Derrick Rose vs. Kevin Durant
Mon Oct 10, 2011 12:13 pm by JordansBulls

wiff wrote:
JordansBulls wrote:Rose no doubt. Led team to best record in the league without another allstar while Durant has only led a team to a 4th seed with another allstar on the team. Not to mention Rose made the playoffs each year in the league while with Durant the Sonics/Thunder were worse his rookie and sophomore years compared to the season before he came.


Rose being on a team that made the playoffs every year has absolutely nothing to do with Rose being a better player. All it means is that Rose was on a better "TEAM"

And if I'm not mistaken the 3 teams in front of the Thunder are responsible for winning 10 of the last 13 championships and were in the finals 13 out of the last 13 years. That's kind of a tough code to crack.

Still though team success doesn't define individual talent. And this is still Durant and it's not really that close.


How does that apply here?

Rose was not on a better team. Sonics won more games the year before Durant came than the first two years he was there. Bulls missed the playoffs the year before Rose came and then made it each year he was there.
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