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Announcement Welcome To The New Statistical Analysis Forum

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by Howard Mass » Mon Nov 2, 2009 5:51 am

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I would like to welcome everyone to our newest forum here on RealGM.

The Statistical Analysis forum will be a place for users to crunch numbers,...

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Awesome! I love this idea

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Where to get player head to head win/loss stats

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by PapoHeat » Tue Nov 2, 2010 2:03 pm

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Like Jordan vs Bird
Jordan vs Magic
Howard vs Wade
etc??

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Much appreciated, thanks.

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Wed Nov 3, 2010 3:09 pm
Basketball on Paper

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by Ripp » Thu Sep 9, 2010 6:08 pm

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I just got this book today. Going to read through some of it over the next week and probably ask some questions...maybe others can use this thread to...

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There are certain players that need an exact group of guys around them for themselves on their teams to be successful.

Iverson was definitley one of...
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Wed Oct 27, 2010 3:07 pm
What is the "best" defensive statistic?

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by nonemus » Fri Oct 1, 2010 4:45 pm

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There are many stats that measure offensive efficiency, but are there any stats that measure defensive tenacity?

I am not talking about rpg/bpg/spg....

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When you take into account Drating you have to take into account the players defensive rating to the league and THEIR TEAM. The only reason Beasley...

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Wed Oct 27, 2010 2:11 pm
Efficiency stats - Carmelo, Kobe the best

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by jjin28 » Tue Oct 19, 2010 8:27 pm

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Carmelo has some outstanding numbers. Kobe is top 3 in every stat except for having open shots. Lebron and Wade are beastly when they are open...

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Good points, Doc. Having done similar work (albeit with an emphasis on defense) quantifying open vs. contested looks, I'm much closer to dismissing...
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Fri Oct 22, 2010 3:06 pm
Value of advanced stats? (PER/TS%/Win Shares etc)

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by dn0774 » Fri Oct 8, 2010 6:23 pm

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For the purposes of this topic I am mainly referring to the most commonly used advanced stats, namely PER, TS%, Win Shares and Defensive Rating.

How...

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All stats are bad without context and actually watching games/players. Advanced stats are similar. They are a lot better than PPG/APG/RPG but they...

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Thu Oct 21, 2010 12:41 pm
Formula for Team Drtg?

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by mopper8 » Thu Oct 21, 2010 1:27 am

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I'm curious as to whether anyone knows the formula for calculating Team Drtg?

From a thread on the PC board, I'm interested in doing the Bulls Drtg...

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From what I know, a team's DRtg is *100.

Points allowed is easy, the formula for a team's total possessions can be found on b-r.com -

Poss...

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Thu Oct 21, 2010 2:38 am
Average minutes for a starter?

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by Nuck Chorris » Tue Oct 5, 2010 11:50 pm

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How many minutes does the average starter play per game?

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Thanks guys.

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Tue Oct 12, 2010 2:33 am
Rebounds per game adjustment?

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by Amare_1_Knicks » Thu Oct 7, 2010 1:45 am

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Is there a formula to properly adjust rebounds/rebounds per game? For example, in 1963-64, Bill Russell was averaging 24.7RPG but the league average...

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Its cool, I go right past stickied threads all the time lol. I have to admit, I'm even worse about announcements.

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Sat Oct 9, 2010 10:06 pm
Midrange shots and efficiency

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by Dr Positivity » Mon Sep 6, 2010 8:59 pm

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Here's an idea I've been playing with lately

Midrange shots improve the efficiency of inside and outside shots - the more the d is positioned to...

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I agree, it's obviously a simplification that relies on Player B's teammates combining for all the inside shots Player A takes. In most cases Player...
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Tue Oct 5, 2010 8:38 am
Win Shares versus Wins Produced?

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by shawngoat23 » Sat Apr 10, 2010 12:08 am

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Obviously, neither are perfect measures (or even adequate in some cases), but which correlates better with actual player ability?

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quote from "DavidStern":

"Berri ran regression and results showed how valuable rebounds are. No place to discussion here unless...
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Mon Oct 4, 2010 5:05 am
Some interesting 40+pt games from the past 20 years

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by Alan Ogg » Mon Dec 14, 2009 5:09 pm

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I was flipping through an older copy of the Sporting News NBA Guide I came across, and started scanning the HI point games from the last 20 years...

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Yeah, Pippen is the winner, at least since 1986-87 season:

But probably in earlier seasons Wilt was even better. I don't know about any of his...
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Fri Oct 1, 2010 2:28 pm
Measure of Efficiency... PPS or TS%?

Last post by tsherkin « Tue Sep 28, 2010 4:26 pm
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by italianleather » Tue Aug 31, 2010 4:07 pm

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Are PPS and TS% representing the same thing, just presented differently?

If not, what is the difference & which parameter projects efficiency...

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You're basically talking about the data Hoop Data provides in that post.

TS still has value, it just requires context. You need to know shot volume...

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Tue Sep 28, 2010 4:26 pm
Is Kobe really an inefficient scorer?

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by Original Baller » Thu Jun 24, 2010 1:41 pm

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I always hear this and I guess if you repeat something enough times people will begin to believe it. So I looked up the numbers to see if it was...

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Pt #1: Since the Eaton thing was a side comment re: the original point, back to the original point" Jordan winning DPOY wasn't necessarily...
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Tue Sep 28, 2010 4:17 pm
Lebron's minutes

Last post by J08 « Sun Sep 26, 2010 5:23 pm
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by Dr Positivity » Sun Aug 29, 2010 3:44 am

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Lebron currently has 25k minutes. If he averages 3700 minutes a season from now on assuming long playoff runs, his numbers will look like

11 - 28.7...

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lebron at pf ? bargnani abused him in the post nuff said

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Sun Sep 26, 2010 5:23 pm
Boston was screwed in the Finals. Confirmed.

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by D-31 » Tue Jun 29, 2010 10:55 pm

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That's only half the story, though -- free throws are where the conspiracy buffs really make their case, since the Lakers shot 51 more FTA than the...

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What? Lakers won because celtics got locked down at the end.

Are celtics fan really complaining about free throws, you guys didnt have a problem in...

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Sat Sep 25, 2010 5:30 am
Getting APM from ORtg and DRtg?

Last post by Ripp « Tue Sep 21, 2010 4:39 am
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by rk755 » Thu Sep 9, 2010 5:28 am

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Adjusted Plus Minus has been around for a while now, but is only available for this decade (post-2002?), and has been used to determine (or help...

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I was thinking more like K-means clustering, for example...the picture above seems to be interested more in constructing a graph connecting players....
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Tue Sep 21, 2010 4:39 am
Pace Adjusted Foul Draw

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by penbeast0 » Sun Aug 29, 2010 7:30 pm

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Curious whether modern players get more calls once pace is taken out of the equation. Anyone with a sortable database that can give us the top 20...

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Was sort of hoping one of y'all would do it since I am too lazy. :)

Since you came out and admitted it, I pulled it up on my excel :D

By F/FGA,...

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Sun Sep 19, 2010 6:07 am
Question regarding player comparisons

Last post by Chicago76 « Fri Sep 17, 2010 7:00 pm
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by Biznit » Wed Sep 15, 2010 5:15 pm

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Thanks to anyone who helps me out on this one. I'm sure to you guys it's a simple answer.
I've gone to 82games and basketball-reference and I see the...

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Things I look at when trying to determine if a lower minute player is comparable to a higher minute player, other than what has been said:

-usage or...

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Fri Sep 17, 2010 7:00 pm
WNBA Advanced Stats

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by Doctor MJ » Sat Sep 4, 2010 7:00 pm

Found this page which has some information I'd been looking for for a while, thought y'all might find it of interest.

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Sat Sep 4, 2010 7:00 pm
Is there a basketball resource which....

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by nonemus » Tue Aug 3, 2010 9:39 am

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Gives the user stats on not the player at question, but the stats of the player whom he was guarding? Like points allowed per game vs matchup or like...

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82games.com has that in the opponent counterpart stats on the "By Position" tab. It is per 48 minutes and a guy may not always be truly...

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Mon Aug 30, 2010 5:41 pm
Kobe Bryant's Consistency and High-Volume Shooting Games

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by ElGee » Sun Aug 22, 2010 12:38 am

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Imported from a tangent in this thread:

Neil over at B-R had a post a while ago about consistent vs. inconsistent individual performances and his...

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CTRL+D works for bookmarking pages in just about every browser (s/b all, but you never know). Is that what you're asking?

...

No, I meant on...
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Sat Aug 28, 2010 8:50 am
Difference between Ortg & TS%?

Last post by tsherkin « Fri Aug 27, 2010 5:45 pm
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by mopper8 » Thu Jul 29, 2010 1:37 am

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I haven't read Basketball On Paper, so I'm not totally familiar with the formula for what goes into Ortg. Basketball-reference defines Ortg as...

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Yeah, wish I'd bought the book woulda saved me some time over the past coule of days. We have a pretty interesting discussion going on now in the...

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Fri Aug 27, 2010 5:45 pm
Estimating Pace and Bill Russell's Defensive Impact

Last post by Doctor MJ « Tue Aug 24, 2010 11:05 pm
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by ElGee » Tue Aug 24, 2010 9:13 pm

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We can use a simple method to estimate pace before turnovers were tracked, which is using the numbers of field goals and free throws attempted by a...

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Completely agree. There is no one in history who has contributed anywhere near as much defensive value as Russell did.

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Tue Aug 24, 2010 11:05 pm
2010-2011 Rest Days Margins

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by DSMok1 » Tue Aug 17, 2010 5:02 pm

I ran a quick analysis on the rest days in the upcoming schedule, from the data at NBAStuffer:

What I wanted to find out was the overall impact...

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Tue Aug 17, 2010 5:02 pm
Comparing Players across Eras

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by penbeast0 » Fri Aug 6, 2010 3:26 am

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Oh another one:

Pace is just another factor to think about across eras, and you shouldn't adjust for it without adjusting a slew of other things...

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We should consider the origins of dribbling in the first place: The league at the middle of the century was a passing league.

There was no shot...
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