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Announcement New Rules for the Player Comparison Board

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by rrravenred » Wed Sep 26, 2012 12:58 am

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Hello all.

The following are all rules in our Terms of Service and things we will be cracking down from here on out.

Derailing Discussion - Users...

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Bumping old thread rule isn’t good. That’s a lot of the fun. Everyone has had bad takes (present poster excluded obviously), let’s not take ourselves...

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How many players have a case for FMVP this year?

Last post by trelos6 « Sun Jun 22, 2025 8:48 am
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by durantbird » Sat Jun 21, 2025 9:17 am

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In case Indy wins:
Pascal Siakam?
Tyrese Haliburton?
TJ McConnell?
Andrew Nembhard?

In case OKC wins?
Shai Gilgeous Alexander?
Jalen Williams?

How...

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Siakam

SGA

Sleeper pick: Lu Dort (needs like 6 3’s in G7)

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Sun Jun 22, 2025 8:48 am
Poll Defense Only - Gary Payton vs Nate McMillan

Last post by lessthanjake « Sun Jun 22, 2025 2:54 am
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This topic has a poll. by AStark1991 » Thu Jun 19, 2025 1:31 pm

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Although Payton at his peak is widely considered to be one of the absolute best defensive point guards of all-time, a case can also be made that he...

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But you are?

Imagine that.

Dazzling argument. Very convincing.

Yet these very 3 seasons you mentioned your on/off data for, it was Payton that...

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Sun Jun 22, 2025 2:54 am
How many years of Lebron/Kareem over 1996 Jordan?

Last post by Djoker « Sun Jun 22, 2025 2:11 am
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by Matt15 » Sat Jun 21, 2025 4:48 pm

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How many years of Lebron/Kareem would you take over 1996 Jordan?

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If anything I think Jordan's 1996 Finals gets too much scrutiny. The Bulls were up 3-0 and then MJ started struggling to shoot. Through the first...

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Sun Jun 22, 2025 2:11 am
Giannis and Jokic are on their own tier, and picking one over the other just depends on team's needs IMHO

Last post by therealbig3 « Sat Jun 21, 2025 11:05 pm
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by Rubios » Sat Jun 21, 2025 8:36 pm

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If you offer all the GMs of the League any player they want in exchange for nothing just for a single season / PO run (so age doesn't play a factor),...

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Giannis defense has fallen off, but I think there’s a really good argument for his peak being better because of that. Jokic is not a bad defender,...

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Sat Jun 21, 2025 11:05 pm
Top 10 peaks in today's league, only using players drafted before 2000

Last post by lessthanjake « Sat Jun 21, 2025 5:15 pm
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by Tomtolbert » Fri Jun 20, 2025 10:51 pm

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What do you predict would be the top 10 peaks (or 5 if easier) among players drafted before 2000, if their peak versions (or whichever version you...

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I think #1 would be Jordan. He’d basically just be a better version of SGA. On that comparison, FWIW prior to the 3PT line being moved in, Jordan...

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Sat Jun 21, 2025 5:15 pm
All-Time Level Seasons

Last post by lessthanjake « Sat Jun 21, 2025 2:18 pm
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by trelos6 » Sat Jun 14, 2025 11:00 am

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I’m using the recent revision of POY to adjust my big corp list, cross referencing my rankings for internal consistency.

I’ve collected what I...

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How is West who was never even the best as good as Mikan who is the clear best guy every year?

Also I have to say I'm not getting how the 93 finals...

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Sat Jun 21, 2025 2:18 pm
Poll Wilt replacing Shaq in 93, entire career same path as Shaq did

Last post by Silvie Lysandra « Sat Jun 21, 2025 3:30 am
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This topic has a poll. by migya » Mon Jun 16, 2025 8:23 am

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Replace rookie Shaq with rookie Wilt in 93, he goes to Lakers in 97 and Heat in 05, does Chamberlain have a better career than Shaq and how does his...

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Also, a lot of Kobe's issues with Shaq were based around Shaq just not putting in the level of work Kobe was. That was a key element in Kobe feeling...
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Sat Jun 21, 2025 3:30 am
2019 Redraft

Last post by Dr Positivity « Sat Jun 21, 2025 1:59 am
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by durantbird » Tue Jun 17, 2025 8:38 am

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With Ja and Zion being tangled in off court issues, how would you redraft the 2019 draft?

Gimme your top 10

Notable names:
Ja Morant
Zion...

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I think you take a chance on Zion turning it around 1st. No need to take Morant over Garland.

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Sat Jun 21, 2025 1:59 am
Poll Better Combo During Prime

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This topic has a poll. by mdonnelly1989 » Thu Jun 19, 2025 9:57 pm

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Team 1

Shaq O'Neal
Steve Nash

Team 2

Hakeem Olajuwon
Chris Paul

Team 3

Nikola Jokic
Anthony Davis

Team 4

Larry Bird
James Harden...

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My first take is Hakeem and Paul (assuming through both their prime eras rather than just today's league). Defense as well as offense and Hakeem's...

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Fri Jun 20, 2025 4:47 pm
Does Robinson's metrics make him top 15 at least

Last post by One_and_Done « Fri Jun 20, 2025 9:04 am
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by migya » Thu Jun 19, 2025 12:55 pm

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David Robinson's metrics are among the best ever, for regular season and playoffs. He gets knocked down for his longevity and some PS performances...

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He has a top 15 peak, but might not quite be top 15 all-time.

Lebron

Kareem
Duncan

Shaq/Jordan/Magic
Curry
Bird
Hakeem
KG

That's 10 already. Then...
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Fri Jun 20, 2025 9:04 am
CORP formula's

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by trelos6 » Thu Jun 19, 2025 5:17 am

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For those who have a CORP system for all time rankings, how do you weigh seasons?

Let's call an All-Star level 1 point, how much more do you each...

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I start at all star level because I don’t have the time to rank the Danny Green’s of the world. I recognise and appreciate their value, but it’s a...

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Fri Jun 20, 2025 6:10 am
Poll Luka Shaq vs West Bird

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This topic has a poll. by durantbird » Tue May 6, 2025 5:41 pm

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Which duo would you rather build around??

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I take Luka/Shaq

Luka is already built for current game so he won't have problem to adjust to a Big paint player.

Shaq all time inside gravity...
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Fri Jun 20, 2025 2:52 am
Poll Better scorer: John Stockton or Tyrese Haliburton?

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This topic has a poll. by WestGOAT » Tue Jun 17, 2025 7:12 am

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See Poll

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I’ve always said/thought that Kevin McHale was an underrated rebounder. The Celtics had two absolute beasts on the glass playing alongside him in...

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Thu Jun 19, 2025 8:47 pm
Switch Stockton and Nash for careers

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by migya » Thu Jun 19, 2025 5:02 pm

If switched for careers, would Stockton be better in place of Nash and/or would Nash be better in place of Stockton?

Considering the context is...

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Thu Jun 19, 2025 5:02 pm
1990: Isiah vs KJ vs Hakeem vs K-Malone

Last post by One_and_Done « Thu Jun 19, 2025 12:24 am
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by Matt15 » Wed Jun 18, 2025 9:10 pm

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How would you rank these players from 1-4?

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Hakeem
Malone

KJ

Isiah

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Thu Jun 19, 2025 12:24 am
Poll Prime Only: Better Defensively Jason Kidd or Alex Caruso

Last post by tsherkin « Wed Jun 18, 2025 8:13 pm
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This topic has a poll. by mdonnelly1989 » Fri Jun 6, 2025 6:16 pm

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Everything I've heard about Kidd was that he could defend multiple positions.

And obviously we see Caruso defend Jokic in spurts.

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Okay, I just didn't realize it was a joke, thought you didn't see that it was a double post.

In your defense, I could have green-fonted or /s, so...

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Wed Jun 18, 2025 8:13 pm
Where does Mobley rank in Cavs history (PEAK only)

Last post by durantbird « Wed Jun 18, 2025 7:51 am
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by durantbird » Tue Jun 17, 2025 2:25 pm

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Suppose you redo the peaks project for the Cavs, does Evan Mobley crack the top 5?

Or in other words, where do you rank Evan Mobley 2025 season in a...

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BTW does Nate Thurmond belong in the conversation as well? He had little offensive contribution for the Cavs but solidified their defense helping...

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Wed Jun 18, 2025 7:51 am
Greatest Full Roster who never made an all-star team

Last post by eminence « Wed Jun 18, 2025 2:49 am
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by jojo4341 » Mon Jun 16, 2025 9:00 pm

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Create the best 12-man roster of players who didn't make a single all-star team. Your goal is to take down all-time GOAT teams (ie Steph at PG, MJ at...

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I am surprised CJ McCollum hasn’t been mentioned. Current player, but unlikely to make all star team at this point of his career. CJ has to be...

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Wed Jun 18, 2025 2:49 am
Poll PEAK ONLY: Embiid vs Durant

Last post by Top10alltime « Wed Jun 18, 2025 2:37 am
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This topic has a poll. by parsnips33 » Thu Dec 21, 2023 5:03 pm

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Simple Question

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purely era-relative there is a case for kd's 2014 as a match for any embid regular-season in large part due to the relative weakness of the league....
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Wed Jun 18, 2025 2:37 am
Poll ’86 Larry Bird vs ’96 Michael Jordan

Last post by lessthanjake « Wed Jun 18, 2025 12:15 am
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This topic has a poll. by Matt15 » Thu Aug 26, 2021 8:09 pm

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Who was the better player?

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This is probably Jordan, but it’s not a total slam dunk, since this is peak Bird vs. not-peak Jordan. I think 1996 Jordan was pretty close to his...

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Wed Jun 18, 2025 12:15 am
How rigid in archetype is high-end individual offensive impact & value?

Last post by tsherkin « Tue Jun 17, 2025 11:11 pm
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by FrodoBaggins » Mon Jun 16, 2025 7:17 pm

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Players with high-end offensive impact possess a combination of scoring and playmaking at volume. They can score points themselves and also create...

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I don't have access to Box Creation stats

Zoinks!

I can help with this.

(through 2023)
Harden: had a 3-year peak with a BC of around 18 (tops...

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Tue Jun 17, 2025 11:11 pm
Jalen Williams/Elgin Baylor Comparison

Last post by TT8198 « Tue Jun 17, 2025 9:15 pm
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by TT8198 » Tue Jun 17, 2025 3:08 pm

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Watching Jalen Williams score 40 last night I couldn't help but get Elgin Baylor vibes and made me think how great Elgin Baylor would be in todays...

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Watching Jalen Williams score 40 last night I couldn't help but get Elgin Baylor vibes and made me think how great Elgin Baylor would be in todays...

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Tue Jun 17, 2025 9:15 pm
How would moses malone work in today nba?

Last post by tsherkin « Tue Jun 17, 2025 3:14 pm
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by falcolombardi » Sat Feb 12, 2022 7:16 pm

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how do you think he could he adapt his game to the modern playstyle and would he keep the same impact?

post scorers who pass the ball little (moses...

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But he was relentless. On D, I think a more recent comp would be P.J. Brown. Brown also didn’t have super high block numbers, but was strong and used...
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Tue Jun 17, 2025 3:14 pm
Switch Mourning and Dwight for careers

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by migya » Tue Jun 17, 2025 11:26 am

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Switching Mourning and Dwight for career. ie Dwight rookie in 1993, Mourning rookie in 2005. How does it play out?

Notes:
Dwight had weak Center...

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Without being able to roam freely (like under modern “defensive 3 seconds” rules), his help defense impact is slightly reduced.

Counterpoint. His...

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Tue Jun 17, 2025 3:11 pm
Poll Kobe vs D-Rob (Peak Only)

Last post by migya « Tue Jun 17, 2025 8:29 am
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This topic has a poll. by Matt15 » Tue Jun 17, 2025 1:07 am

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The poll results for the Dwight thread were a bit lopsided…. I suggested this would be a closer comparison. Peak only who would you rather have?

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Robinson has among the best advanced metrics alltime. He carried at best average teams to consistently over 53 wins for his first six years, pre...

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