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Announcement Our Conversation about Projects (continued)

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by Doctor MJ » Thu Aug 7, 2025 4:36 pm

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Alright, so as mentioned with the Scandal thread , we're now moving on to a new thread where we're just talking about running projects going forward...

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There’s been some talk of various minor projects we could do. Best offensive players at each position, best defensive players, best teams, restarting...
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Announcement New Rules for the Player Comparison Board

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by rrravenred » Wed Sep 26, 2012 12:58 am

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Hello all.

The following are all rules in our Terms of Service and things we will be cracking down from here on out.

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Notifications about them came to me in the opposite order, I am seeing if I can revoke the warning and make it unoffical.

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What are some offensive/defensive advantages Wade has over Kobe?

Last post by SeattleJazzFan « Tue Jan 31, 2023 8:27 pm
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by 1993Playoffs » Mon Jan 30, 2023 11:47 pm

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Can you guys name any ?

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better rebounder, better playmaker/passer, more efficient scorer, better on ball defender.

basically better in every way except volume scoring...

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Tue Jan 31, 2023 8:27 pm
Poll Isaiah Rider vs Anthony Edwards in Minny

Last post by Colbinii « Tue Jan 31, 2023 4:23 pm
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This topic has a poll. by durantbird » Mon Jan 30, 2023 6:01 pm

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How does Minny Isaiah Rider compare to current Anthony Edwards?

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lol. Rider averaged over 20 ppg once. in his most efficient season he averaged 16 ppg on 56% TS. His career high in rebounds was 4.7 and assists was...

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Tue Jan 31, 2023 4:23 pm
Worst peak of any player in/around your top 10 GOAT?

Last post by 70sFan « Tue Jan 31, 2023 10:59 am
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by ceiling raiser » Sun Jan 29, 2023 9:19 pm

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Been thinking about this a bit. It’s very, very tough since I’m peak-heavy, and weight very strong years more than typical prime years.

LeBron - no...

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Wait, why does Jordan get this comment but Garnett and Robinson these comparatively positive ones?

Been thinking about this a bit. It’s very,...
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Tue Jan 31, 2023 10:59 am
How many years of Shaq over Peak Giannis?

Last post by Jaivl « Tue Jan 31, 2023 8:48 am
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by Matt15 » Mon Jan 30, 2023 11:13 pm

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How many years of Shaq would you take over Peak Giannis?

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2000-2002.

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Tue Jan 31, 2023 8:48 am
Shaq and LeBron / dislodging via shoulder

Last post by SNPA « Tue Jan 31, 2023 7:41 am
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by SNPA » Fri Jan 27, 2023 5:37 am

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Shaq perfected this on the block, and James perfected it on the drive.

Would the game be better if an offensive player using his shoulder to...

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STXbuXGPdoY

Seems inconceivable he could do these things but not shoulder ram a defender backwards.

On another note, I have not watched much of...
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Tue Jan 31, 2023 7:41 am
Poll Duncan 2003 vs. Dirk 2011, who disrupted the ATG landscape more

Last post by NO-KG-AI « Tue Jan 31, 2023 6:43 am
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This topic has a poll. by dygaction » Wed Jan 25, 2023 5:30 am

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Not to discuss which is more difficult or more single core but to see which run impacted the landscape of top 20 players more.
TD's 2003 put TD in...

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The fact that people don’t get the greenappleness of my posts saddens me.

Aww man. He was the shtick poster that all the ones on the GB now wish...
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Tue Jan 31, 2023 6:43 am
Poll Kevin Garnett vs Steve Nash

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This topic has a poll. by Narigo » Sat Jan 28, 2023 3:43 am

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Who was the better player in 2006? I think KG was underrated that season. He anchored a top 10 defense pretty much by himself

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I mean, it's all good and fine, Nash did a majestic job and KG probably could do more on offense in 2006 (I don't know, but it's plausible).

But do...
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Mon Jan 30, 2023 9:46 pm
Poll Moving forward : SGA or Ja?

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This topic has a poll. by 1993Playoffs » Sat Jan 28, 2023 4:33 pm

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Who do you think will be better as their career progresses?

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Ja us clearly better. This board loves overrating one off seasons or players with a green light. SGA is Beal part 2
SGA has been great for years and...

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Mon Jan 30, 2023 8:17 pm
Philly's performance with DrJ pre Moses

Last post by SkyHookFTW « Mon Jan 30, 2023 3:53 pm
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by migya » Sat Jan 28, 2023 6:14 am

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Philly's performance during DrJ's career pre Moses, 1977-82 was very good but how good among post merger teams?

Did they overachieve or...

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As stated, they were the dominant RS team over that period. I don't really think they were more talented than the '77 Blazers or the Lakers/Celtics...

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Mon Jan 30, 2023 3:53 pm
How good were the 60s Celtics other than Bill Russell?

Last post by Red Beast « Mon Jan 30, 2023 8:58 am
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by penbeast0 » Thu Jan 26, 2023 7:38 pm

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Russell wasn't the problem for Wilt. It was that Russ's teammates (and coaches) were better than his. The 60's Celtics were as stacked as the 2017...

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Hard to imagine a team that wins 8 straight titles having anything other than one of the greatest supporting casts of all time.

Bill Russell being...
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Mon Jan 30, 2023 8:58 am
Mourning v Nash better career, prime and peak

Last post by trex_8063 « Sun Jan 29, 2023 11:31 pm
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by migya » Sun Jan 29, 2023 3:38 am

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Who had the better career, prime and peak, Mourning or Nash? Give your reasonings.

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Can you show where you got that information?

I assume you're referring to mTOV% (as all the rest is easily found on bbref ).

Modified TOV% starts...
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Sun Jan 29, 2023 11:31 pm
Did Shaq's Creation drop-off in the Postseason?

Last post by Owly « Sun Jan 29, 2023 9:53 pm
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by OhayoKD » Sun Jan 29, 2023 6:48 pm

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Regular Season

Playoffs

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Normal caveats re playoffs.
Small sample, limited range of opponents. In this instance a small sample of the career too.

That said, his assist...

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Sun Jan 29, 2023 9:53 pm
Scottie Pippen for career, prime and peak

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by migya » Fri Jan 27, 2023 3:35 pm

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Where does Scottie Pippen rank in your alltime list? How good was his offense and defense? Give your reasonings, use some proof.

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Very similar to main squeeze Lebron's offense in his teams'successes. Pippen was the playmaking for that team. Kerr and Pete Myers didn't add much in...
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Sun Jan 29, 2023 8:18 pm
Who had better career and ranked higher alltime

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by migya » Thu Jan 26, 2023 5:13 am

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The ranking of players alltime is varied and the important aspects giving value is different among people. Rank the players below, state your order...

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^ Yes, a decent illustration of why I think Curry is a more impactful player than Durant even in the postseason, although should note here that does...
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Sun Jan 29, 2023 4:11 pm
How good does Grant Hill's 1997 peak season compare to alltime SF peaks

Last post by DNice68 « Sun Jan 29, 2023 2:43 am
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by migya » Wed Jan 25, 2023 4:53 pm

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Grant Hill's peak season by metrics is 1997. How does it compare alltime in one year peaks among SFs?

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39.3mins, 21.4pts, 49.6fg%, 9reb,...

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1981 Marques Johnson went toe-to-toe with MVP Julius Erving in the playoffs, and his RPoY finishes are very comparable to Grant Hill’s. Just because...
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Sun Jan 29, 2023 2:43 am
Poll 2 All-Time Teams Enter a Playoff Semi-Final!!! (Semi-Final 2)

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This topic has a poll. by OhayoKD » Fri Jan 27, 2023 3:06 am

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-> 2023 Rules
-> Every player has had an off-season and regular season to adapt
-> Seeding is based on prior voting
-> Higher seed gets...

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feels like the 2nd seed wins in 5 or 6. dray can guard bird, kawhi can guard durant, steph works better in 2023 than oscar and you've still got luka...

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Sat Jan 28, 2023 4:11 pm
Poll Team Jazz vs Team Suns

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This topic has a poll. by rand » Sat Jan 28, 2023 6:11 am

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Who wins a best of 7 with 2023 refs? Everyone is at their peak with their respective team.

Team Jazz
John Stockton
Donovan Mitchell
Andrei...

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I'm with the Jazz too, Amare and Barkley inside leaves Marion with way too much to make up for and Nash/Booker is not a competent defensive pairing...

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Sat Jan 28, 2023 2:53 pm
Poll Robert Williams III vs Nic Claxton

Last post by penbeast0 « Sat Jan 28, 2023 2:48 pm
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This topic has a poll. by GeorgeMarcus » Sat Jan 28, 2023 9:41 am

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Offense: Athletic, highly-efficient rim runners who don't space the floor or carry much on-ball responsibility for their teams

Defense: Quality...

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Williams plays bigger and is a better post passer from what I've seen, though Claxton does indeed have more forward skills. Their defense is...

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Sat Jan 28, 2023 2:48 pm
A question about Ben Taylor's methodology

Last post by Chronz « Sat Jan 28, 2023 9:38 am
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by uberhikari » Fri Jan 27, 2023 8:52 am

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Since the discussion in the back half of this thread I've been thinking a lot more about Ben Taylor's concepts of portability and scalability. So, I...

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He's comparing his portability to Nash, not MJ in that quote. MJ is even more portable than Bron

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Sat Jan 28, 2023 9:38 am
Poll Peak Defensive Dennis Rodman V Kawhi Leonard

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I'm sure you are splitting hairs

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LeBron vs. Kawhi on defense: What case does Kawhi have?

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by letskissbro » Sun Jan 22, 2023 11:33 pm

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Whenever the topic of best perimeter or non-big defender comes up the first names mentioned are usually Scottie Pippen, Ron Artest, AK47, and… Kawhi...

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Surprised no one has posted this gif when 2nd year Kawhi checked back in to guard him.

true, lebron never had the best defenders try to guard him...
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Sat Jan 28, 2023 6:07 am
Jerry West vs John Havlicek: Defense

Last post by Cavsfansince84 « Fri Jan 27, 2023 10:04 pm
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by TT8198 » Fri Jan 27, 2023 8:21 pm

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I've seen this question posted to the thread before but I don't think anyone answered but its a good question. Jerry West vs John Havlicek purely on...

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I'd think West may have had a big size/length advantage at his position which Hondo didn't really have as a 6-5 sf(granted he also played sg but...

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Fri Jan 27, 2023 10:04 pm
Poll Tyrone Corbin vs. Tony Campbell as a Timberwolf

Last post by Owly « Fri Jan 27, 2023 4:45 pm
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This topic has a poll. by SelakStreet » Fri Jan 27, 2023 1:59 pm

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Who do you consider to be higher ranked for his Minnesota career?

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Phrasing unclear on person interpretation of merit versus interpretation of public or fanbase perception.

For me personally, Corbin comfortably....

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Fri Jan 27, 2023 4:45 pm
Poll Rod Strickland vs Gilbert Arenas

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This topic has a poll. by durantbird » Thu Jan 26, 2023 8:47 am

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Two Wizards greats. Who's got the better peak/career?

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Arenas had a crazy good first step with the big frame that allowed him to force contact to draw a lot of fouls. Obviously could bomb from long-range,...

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Fri Jan 27, 2023 5:18 am
Poll Rolando Blackman vs Michael Finley as a Maverick

Last post by ronnymac2 « Fri Jan 27, 2023 5:01 am
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This topic has a poll. by durantbird » Fri Jan 20, 2023 3:57 pm

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Who do you rank higher for his Dallas career?

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Underrated comparison here. I recently went through bball-ref and looked through how the Dallas Mavericks did in the 1980s. Blackman was a 20 PPG...

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